booked the day off and will be out round town,drinking beer.

I also take issue with the fact that this is a reactionary celebration - I don't ever remember growing up celebrating St George's Day. It seems to be starting to prove a point to the other home nations rather than the achievements of this country.

 

I find that part of it rather amusing...it does seem that it's sprouted up directly because of the idiots that wear guinness hats etc once a year.

 

I'm not out boozing to celebrate today, but I take no issue with those that do - fair play to you.

Have you ever kissed a girl son?

 

You should get out more.

 

Want a hug?

 

 

Erm...good one?

i expected better of you

 

don't give a shite who/what st george is/was..

 

this is ENGLANDS DAY..

 

Wooah! I'm as patriotic as the rest of them. I just find it peculiar that OUR patron saint was a Turk. I just wonder if Saints Andrew, David and Patrick have similar histories. Somehow I doubt it!

 

He's also Patron Saint of Catalonia so, today of all days, St George and his conection to Barcelona is even better than normal.

See the thing is, is that your claiming to speak for the whole nation and you clearly don't speak for me - its like the dissenting voices against the war in Iraq in America, as soon as you start to disagree you are labelled unpatriotic. I'm very proud to come from this country, there are a many great things we can be proud of. Hell, I even had Jerusalem at my wedding (waved flags and sung at the proms as well)

 

My issues come from the fact that the history you seem to be celebrating is an old Whig telling based on conquest and upholding the rights of class (certainly with Queen and Country inextricably linked) - certainly non inclusionist and represnting only a small percentage of the population. John Bull? FFS.

 

I also take issue with the fact that this is a reactionary celebration - I don't ever remember growing up celebrating St George's Day. It seems to be starting to prove a point to the other home nations rather than the achievements of this country.

 

I also find Nationalism in any form a road to ruin, we've seen too often in recent history what lies down that road.

 

So i'm all for drink a pint of ale, eating some roast beef, singing some etc etc but don't try and trun this day into something its not which is the whole country uniting behind the cross of St George.

 

 

 

 

enjoy your drink with your immigrant neighbours..

 

 

 

happy ENGLANDS day

enjoy your drink with your immigrant neighbours..

 

 

 

happy ENGLANDS day

 

 

Where you drinking today mate, drop us a text or summut.

enjoy your drink with your immigrant neighbours..

 

 

 

happy ENGLANDS day

 

 

As I'm at work all week I'm be doing no drinking but this weekend,as per usual, I'll be out on the South Downs walking on some of the most beautiful landscape in England. That to be is how I celebrate being lucky enough to be born in this country.

This weekend I'll be travelling on England's great railway system, then watch the engllsh game played by two english teams in the capital of England.

 

(I wish I was in the pub now!)

Where you drinking today mate, drop us a text or summut.

 

 

bell ya later mate

I'll be out on the South Downs walking on some of the most beautiful landscape in England. That to be is how I celebrate being lucky enough to be born in this country.

That's as good a way to celebrate as any Crawley

See the thing is, is that your claiming to speak for the whole nation and you clearly don't speak for me - its like the dissenting voices against the war in Iraq in America, as soon as you start to disagree you are labelled unpatriotic. I'm very proud to come from this country, there are a many great things we can be proud of. Hell, I even had Jerusalem at my wedding (waved flags and sung at the proms as well)

 

My issues come from the fact that the history you seem to be celebrating is an old Whig telling based on conquest and upholding the rights of class (certainly with Queen and Country inextricably linked) - certainly non inclusionist and represnting only a small percentage of the population. John Bull? FFS.

 

I also take issue with the fact that this is a reactionary celebration - I don't ever remember growing up celebrating St George's Day. It seems to be starting to prove a point to the other home nations rather than the achievements of this country.

 

I also find Nationalism in any form a road to ruin, we've seen too often in recent history what lies down that road.

 

So i'm all for drink a pint of ale, eating some roast beef, singing some etc etc but don't try and trun this day into something its not which is the whole country uniting behind the cross of St George.

 

Well I sure hooked a big un! Must have been the John Bull pic!

 

As for the history, there are many nations who look upon England's so called era of conquest with envious eyes, why be apologetic about it? FFS you would have the Italians apologising for the Romans. The fact is between say 1500 and 1950 England (perhaps that should be Great Britain) were just better at imperalism it than anyone else. The countries and people who whinge and moan about it really wish it had been their country that had achieved that greatness, yet they all seem to want to resettle here, funny is that aint it?

 

As for non inclusionist, my parents were both Polish displaced immigrants who arrived here in 1947. Work that one out you pigeon holing fool.

 

I think you have been brainwashed in left wing ideology.

 

As for not celebrating years ago, that has sod all to do with whats happening now. Perhaps this rise in fervour of this celebration is a reaction by the up to now, silent majority, who are sick and tired of you and your politicians apologising for this countrys past and its hell in a hand cart experiment with multiculterism. Perhaps I and many other people dont want traditional English values replaced by that type of culture, perhaps this is one of the first of many instances of people saying enough is enough.

 

Here is another picture that you will no doubt find distastful.

 

Edited April 23, 200818 yr by Big_Girl_Oral_Explosion

English values?

 

sorry but that makes me laugh.

 

I love England and all it's people but the problem England and the English will always have is there is no real English way of life or culture other than that which is the way all people should live.

 

sorry we've got morris dancing and cream teas.

Edited April 23, 200818 yr by frank_spencer

enjoy your drink with your immigrant neighbours..

 

 

 

happy ENGLANDS day

 

they won't be his neighbours, he lives with them.

English values?

 

sorry but that makes me laugh.

 

I love England and all it's people but the problem England and the English will always have is there is no real English way of life or culture other than that which is the way all people should live.

 

sorry we've got morris dancing and cream teas.

 

 

Its this sort of thing we seem to be celebrating when we have so many other things other then imperialism and the monarchy to be proud of. the Chartists, the Tolpuddle Maryters. If you work in Manchester go up to the the G-Mex and on that space (well near St Peters Field) is where 50 -odd thousand workers from the North West where protesting for Govt reform in the wake of the poverty that had hit England after the napoleonic wars (something Mr Bull came to represent). 15 people died in the Peterloo Massacre and thousands injured when the northern working classes spoke up and changed the course of British history, these people were just ordinary people who died fighting for the rights in the country they were born in. Now THAT is a reason to be proud to be English and Northern - have a beer round there.

 

 

 

Its this sort of thing we seem to be celebrating when we have so many other things other then imperialism and the monarchy to be proud of. the Chartists, the Tolpuddle Maryters. If you work in Manchester go up to the the G-Mex and on that space (well near St Peters Field) is where 50 -odd thousand workers from the North West where protesting for Govt reform in the wake of the poverty that had hit England after the napoleonic wars (something Mr Bull came to represent). 15 people died in the Peterloo Massacre and thousands injured when the northern working classes spoke up and changed the course of British history, these people were just ordinary people who died fighting for the rights in the country they were born in. Now THAT is a reason to be proud to be English and Northern - have a beer round there.

 

Bloody Commies! Mind you I like those sabors, reminds me of Sharpe and his boys taking the good fight and imperalism to every corner of the earth.

Its this sort of thing we seem to be celebrating when we have so many other things other then imperialism and the monarchy to be proud of. the Chartists, the Tolpuddle Maryters. If you work in Manchester go up to the the G-Mex and on that space (well near St Peters Field) is where 50 -odd thousand workers from the North West where protesting for Govt reform in the wake of the poverty that had hit England after the napoleonic wars (something Mr Bull came to represent). 15 people died in the Peterloo Massacre and thousands injured when the northern working classes spoke up and changed the course of British history, these people were just ordinary people who died fighting for the rights in the country they were born in. Now THAT is a reason to be proud to be English and Northern - have a beer round there.

 

...and for the rest of todays left wing, trade unionist dogmafest, tune into Crawley FM (Fooking Monotonous)

...and for the rest of todays left wing, trade unionist dogmafest, tune into Crawley FM (Fooking Monotonous)

 

 

Fcuking bonkers that northern working class folk knock Peterloo but celebrate a mythical man killing a dragon. Should be ashamed, this is directly your history and heritage.

Fcuking bonkers that northern working class folk knock Peterloo but celebrate a mythical man killing a dragon. Should be ashamed, this is directly your history and heritage.

 

 

the plague and black death are also history..

 

they aren't celebrated either..

the plague and black death are also history..

 

they aren't celebrated either..

 

 

That doesn't actually make any sense, but I'll let it go. Have you ever read about what happened at St Peter's Field? Or indeed any British history or are you just piecing the bits of British history you agree with and calling it heritage?

Fcuking bonkers that northern working class folk knock Peterloo but celebrate a mythical man killing a dragon. Should be ashamed, this is directly your history and heritage.

 

I actually agree with CW here. The politics of a mass movement was not really relevant, it was the determined stance they made which should make us proud of our history & people. It is seen in many historical battles and I suppose the St. George thing is just a metaphor for that sort of attitude.

It was the determined stance they made which should make us proud of our history & people. It is seen in many historical battles and I suppose the St. George thing is just a metaphor for that sort of attitude.

 

The one with a front bottom is on the money

 

I was gonna say you have it in one, but with mentioning the front bottom bit first...well you know, the thread may go in other directions

That doesn't actually make any sense, but I'll let it go. Have you ever read about what happened at St Peter's Field? Or indeed any British history or are you just piecing the bits of British history you agree with and calling it heritage?

 

 

its quite easy to understand really, the great plague and black death are part of britains history but they mean nothing to me now..

 

i know plenty of british/english history but today is about being english and celebrating the fact..

 

it is not the day to force your opinions/beliefs/polotics on people..

I actually agree with CW here. The politics of a mass movement was not really relevant, it was the determined stance they made which should make us proud of our history & people. It is seen in many historical battles and I suppose the St. George thing is just a metaphor for that sort of attitude.

 

 

Glad to know someone doesn't want me to fcuk off and die

Glad to know someone doesn't want me to fcuk off and die

 

 

sorry, i missed the word slowly at the end..

its quite easy to understand really, the great plague and black death are part of britains history but they mean nothing to me now..

 

i know plenty of british/english history but today is about being english and celebrating the fact..

 

it is not the day to force your opinions/beliefs/polotics on people..

 

 

Now that makes even less sense. How can you celebrate being English without history and heritage?

 

As for the last bit, oh the irony.

Now that makes even less sense. How can you celebrate being English without history and heritage?

 

As for the last bit, oh the irony.

 

 

 

i'm not forcing my opinions on anyone..

 

you mickbrown and anyone else jumping into a happy st georges day thread with ulterior motives are..keep up eh

 

when it's billy bragg day i'll avoid your thread with glee..