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Potential England Starting Team And Formations

I think the first choice back four will be the same throughout the tournament if there is no injuries. Still not sure who will be No.1 keeper and Capello said he will tell them just before the USA game.

 

So we have.

 

Goalkeepers

James/Hart/Green

 

Defence

G.Johnson..R.Ferdinand[C]..J.Terry..A.Cole

 

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I think Capello likes a player upfront for Rooney to play off, he also likes a holding player like Barry[if he's fit, he will play I think] and that usually means Gerrard is put left. With the 23 squad I'm going to make a few formations and see what you think. Also it's Wayne Rooney and ? so it's the midfield what will be Capello's major headache.

 

There are loads of alternatives and it would taker forever, so use the key's below to understand my formations.

 

Blue = Right wing .. Red = Center midfield .. Green = Left Wing

 

 

/ = One or t'other.

 

Formation 1 - 4-1-3-2

 

Midfield

G.Barry/M.Carrick

A.Lennon/J.Milner/J.Cole..F.Lampard/S.Gerrard..J.Cole/S.Gerrard/J.Milner

 

Front 2

W.Rooney..P.Crouch/E.Heskey or W.Rooney..J.Defoe

 

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Formation 2 - 4-1-3-2 - With Lampard or Gerrard

Midfield

G.Barry/M.Carrick

A.Lennon/J.Milner/J.Cole..F.Lampard/S.Gerrard..J.cole/J.Milner

Front 2

W.Rooney..P.Crouch/E.Heskey or W.Rooney..J.Defoe

 

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Formation 3 - 4-4-2

Midfield

A.Lennon/J.Milner/J.Cole..F.Lampard..S.Gerrard..J.Cole/J.Milner

 

Front 2

W.Rooney..P.Crouch/E.Heskey or W.Rooney..J.Defoe

 

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Formation 4 - 4-1-3-1-1

Midfield

Barry/M.Carrick

A.Lennon/J.Milner/J.Cole..F.Lampard..J.Cole/S.Gerrard/J.Milner

 

S.Gerrard/J.Cole

W.Rooney

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Formation 5 - 4-4-1-1

Midfield

A.Lennon/J.Milner/J.Cole..F.Lampard..S.Gerrard..J.Cole/S.Gerrard/J.Milner

 

S.Gerrard/J.Cole

W.Rooney

 

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Formation 6 - 4-5-1

Midfield

A.Lennon/J.Milner/J.Cole..F.lampard..G.Barry/M.Carrick..S.Gerrard..J.Cole/J.Milner

 

Striker

W.Rooney

 

That's my guess, I know players like SWP can also be used, but the players in my formations are the ones I believe will be in Capello's thought more if they are injury free. I'm not saying M.Carrick should play, but if Barry isn't fit he seems to be his replacement, don't think James Milner in that holding position[like Mexico] is what we should do.

 

Thoughts?

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fook me diddles, you really must have free time on your hands!

 

Green

 

johnson terry ferdinand cole

 

lennon gerrard lamapard j.cole

 

rooney crouch

 

barry isnt gunna be fit for the yank game, but if he was i think gerrard would go on the left with barry in the middle.

Green

 

Johnson - Rio - Terry - A Cole

 

Lennon - Lampard - Barry - Gerrard - J Cole

 

Rooney

Green

 

Johnson - Rio - Terry - A Cole

 

Lennon - Lampard - Barry - Gerrard - J Cole

 

Rooney

 

i,m same as thee frank but without green int nets - (i can still picture his memorable performances at the reebok this season) james is already saying the ball is tricky and awful - so we know whats gonna happen there then , i,d go with hart.

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Capello has a lot of decisions to make, he has some players in form, but also he has players that been may not have been impressive club wise[Carrick for 2nd half of season] but did well in the qualifiers and haven't let England down[like Heskey]

 

  • I really don't rate Green, I think he might go with experience in James, but I have been impressed with Hart.
  • Players like Crouch and Heskey allow Rooney to play his own game and interchange/move around more
  • Gerrard playing on the left tends to move inside a lot and doesn't stay left, sometimes can cramp the midfield and leaves our full/wing backs exposed. But he has linked well with Rooney in that position. I think Gerrard is better behind Rooney or in the midfield.
  • If Barry is injured, does he play Carrick? he hasn't been on form but who else can play the defensive mid position, Ledley King?
  • Can Lampard and Gerrard work together, one will have to sit, whilst the other pushes up and vice versa
  • Peter Crouch's England goal scoring record is excellent
  • J.Cole is our most skillful player, made the left wing is own before he got injured, can play in loads of positions and formations, very important player.
  • If we play 2 wingers, does that not allow A.Cole and G.Johnson to overlap as much and play their natural game[can't have both winger and wing back too high]? do players like Gerrard/Milner on the wings offer more balance? this is why I like J.Cole for the wing, unlike Lennon he has more variety, so I would prefer A.Lennon and J.Cole each wing, but then are Gerrard and Lampard droppable if Capello want's a holding player like Barry?

Capello has a lot of decisions to make, he has some players in form, but also he has players that been may not have been impressive club wise[Carrick for 2nd half of season] but did well in the qualifiers and haven't let England down[like Heskey]

 

  • I really don't rate Green, I think he might go with experience in James, but I have been impressed with Hart.
  • Players like Crouch and Heskey allow Rooney to play his own game and interchange/move around more
  • Gerrard playing on the left tends to move inside a lot and doesn't stay left, sometimes can cramp the midfield and leaves our full/wing backs exposed. But he has linked well with Rooney in that position. I think Gerrard is better behind Rooney or in the midfield.
  • If Barry is injured, does he play Carrick? he hasn't been on form but who else can play the defensive mid position, Ledley King?
  • Can Lampard and Gerrard work together, one will have to sit, whilst the other pushes up and vice versa
  • Peter Crouch's England goal scoring record is excellent
  • J.Cole is our most skillful player, made the left wing is own before he got injured, can play in loads of positions and formations, very important player.
  • If we play 2 wingers, does that not allow A.Cole and G.Johnson to overlap as much and play their natural game[can't have both winger and wing back too high]? do players like Gerrard/Milner on the wings offer more balance? this is why I like J.Cole for the wing, unlike Lennon he has more variety, so I would prefer A.Lennon and J.Cole each wing, but then are Gerrard and Lampard droppable if Capello want's a holding player like Barry?

 

diddle , have the bbc or itv been in touch ? if not why not .

 

they dont know what they are missing , love to hear your analysis on chungys performance after a south korea game .

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I turned them down Wayne ;)

 

The reason I like the formation 6 is because it's not just a 4-5-1, it can be so much than that, Barry gives Lampard and Gerrard the freedom to express their game in the way they do for club. We ha$ve pace and creativity on the wings and a World Class player in Rooney to connect it all together and he has a lot of success for Man United being the lone front man.

 

If Rooney drops back we have players to push forward, Rooney loves to comeand get the ball and do a long crossfield ball to the right wing, get Rooney doing that to Lennon then Rooney Lampard and Gerrard get in the box, with J.Cole hanging around near the edge of the box to pick up any lose balls to show his magic.

 

Didledee - Next England manager

Didledee - Next England manager

 

 

No doubt about it. The blokes in the adjacent beds will be God and Julius Caesar.

what worries me is, if we have Cole Terry and Ferdinand unavailable (its happend before), our back 4 will be Johnson Upson Carragher Warnock.

diddle , have the bbc or itv been in touch ? if not why not .

 

they dont know what they are missing , love to hear your analysis on chungys performance after a south korea game .

 

 

he'll be sleeping.

what worries me is, if we have Cole Terry and Ferdinand unavailable (its happend before), our back 4 will be Johnson Upson Carragher Warnock.

 

barry could play left back

 

oh no, i forgot, he's crippled

 

and milner can play anywhere

 

in fact, he's probably our second best keeper

Why's everybody wanting Green in net?! He's utter gash!

 

For me:

 

 

-----------------Hart------------------

 

Johnson------Rio------Terry------A.Cole

 

Lennon--Lampard--Barry--Gerrard--J.Cole

 

----------------Rooney-----------------

 

 

For me, thats the team we have to play. I dont feel anyone other than Rooney up front is good enough at the international stage with the exception of Crouch who has a brilliant international record, which leads me with the next point...

 

Playing 4 in midfield doesn't work when we play both Gerrard & Lampard together. This is why playing Barry in the holding role, enables both Lampard & Gerrard attacking roles, which is why they excel for their teams back home.

 

So for me i think thats our strongest 11. With Crouch as an impact sub.

Why's everybody wanting Green in net?! He's utter gash!

For me:

 

 

-----------------Hart------------------

 

Johnson------Rio------Terry------A.Cole

 

Lennon--Lampard--Barry--Gerrard--J.Cole

 

----------------Rooney-----------------

 

 

For me, thats the team we have to play. I dont feel anyone other than Rooney up front is good enough at the international stage with the exception of Crouch who has a brilliant international record, which leads me with the next point...

 

Playing 4 in midfield doesn't work when we play both Gerrard & Lampard together. This is why playing Barry in the holding role, enables both Lampard & Gerrard attacking roles, which is why they excel for their teams back home.

 

So for me i think thats our strongest 11. With Crouch as an impact sub.

 

only when he plays against SKD :roll:

 

But i wouldnt be surprised if we go 4-4-2 in the groups with gerrard in the middle until gaz baz is back and then gerrard to the left, then in the knockout stages barry sitting with gerrard and lampard pushing on with rooney up front on his own.

James

 

Carragher terry ferdinand Cole

 

 

 

Barry

 

Lennon Lampard Gerrard J.Cole

 

 

Rooney

only when he plays against SKD :roll:

 

But i wouldnt be surprised if we go 4-4-2 in the groups with gerrard in the middle until gaz baz is back and then gerrard to the left, then in the knockout stages barry sitting with gerrard and lampard pushing on with rooney up front on his own.

 

Who needs Capello ey?! :roll:

barry could play left back

 

oh no, i forgot, he's crippled

 

and milner can play anywhere

 

in fact, he's probably our second best keeper

 

Then it make no sense wasting a place selecting Warnock. No reserve Left back is needed, when we have Milner and Barry.

Who needs Capello ey?! :roll:

 

Thats the beauty of the world cup, every man and his dog knows whats best for England. gotta love it.

Thats the beauty of the world cup, every man and his dog knows whats best for England. gotta love it.

 

It wish it would fucking start. Tired of all the speculation and bullshit.

 

All the bollocks the other day when the 30 was cut to 23. Drove me round the bend. And then the squad numbers. Does David James being Number 1 mean blah blah..

 

For fucks sake, fuck off.

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Captain Ferdinand currently in hospital having a scan on a knee injury :angry:

It wish it would fucking start. Tired of all the speculation and bullshit.

 

All the bollocks the other day when the 30 was cut to 23. Drove me round the bend. And then the squad numbers. Does David James being Number 1 mean blah blah..

 

For fucks sake, fuck off.

 

ha ha yeah know what you mean, i like watching old world cup moments.

 

Captain Ferdinand currently in hospital having a scan on a knee injury :angry:

 

Brilliant.

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