October 27, 201114 yr Just received an e-mail from a Hammer I know who has moved back from Perth to Essex. Is the following correct or exaggerated shiyte? In May 2010 Tohseef Shah spray painted a British War Memorial with "islam will dominate Osama" he was fined ?50 & walked free from court. In November 2010, Emdadur Choudhury burned a Poppy during the 2mins silence. He too was given a fine, ?50 and walked free from court. Last week in a Portsmouth Court, 2 Englishmen were sentenced to 6 months in prison for painting a Poppy on a mosque.
October 27, 201114 yr Just received an e-mail from a Hammer I know who has moved back from Perth to Essex. Is the following correct or exaggerated shiyte? In May 2010 Tohseef Shah spray painted a British War Memorial with "islam will dominate Osama" he was fined ?50 & walked free from court. In November 2010, Emdadur Choudhury burned a Poppy during the 2mins silence. He too was given a fine, ?50 and walked free from court. Last week in a Portsmouth Court, 2 Englishmen were sentenced to 6 months in prison for painting a Poppy on a mosque. The first two bits are true, I'm not sure about the last bit though.
October 27, 201114 yr just found this......seems to be something doing the rounds on Facebook that doesn't give all the details......who would have thunk it This message which is currently circulating rapidly across social networking site Facebook asserts that two men have been sentenced imprisonment for spray painting a mosque despite much lesser sentences being handed out for other examples of racial crimes but actioned out by Muslims. The specific stories mentioned in the message are mostly true (but the fines have been mixed up). Tohseef Shah was fined ?500 in compensation,?85 court costs and two year conditional discharge for spray painting a memorial statue and Emdadur Choudhury was fined ?50 for setting alight a poppy, and finally it is also true that two men have been imprisoned for 12 months for spray painting a mosque. The two men, Steven James Vasey, 32, and 24-year-old Anthony Donald Smith were convicted in Durham this month. At first glance, one may justifiably feel angry at this apparent injustice which makes the British justice system appear soft on racial crimes committed by minorities. But as with all brief and racially charged messages circulating the Internet, it does not really tell the whole story. Firstly, the two men sentenced for 12 months not only defaced a mosque but additionally put a brick through a window of an Asian run business and spray painted two other properties ran by Asians, and by the defendents own admission their actions were racially motivated and planned in advance - this in contrast to Tohseef Shah who`s actions were deemed to be political. Racially motivated crimes often receive heftier sentences and despite, for example, Emdadur Choudhurys crime of poppy burning being more controversial, strictly in the eyes of the law, the two men from Durham committed a more heinous crime.
October 27, 201114 yr Author just found this......seems to be something doing the rounds on Facebook that doesn't give all the details......who would have thunk it Thanks Chris - that is going straight back to him. Knowing the lad - I suspected that it might be slanted in a particular way.
October 27, 201114 yr Sentencing here is based on previous records plus many other factors. I'm guessing that all the parties involved here are all slightly unstable so may not be angels. Course that won't stop someone wording it in an attempt to stir up racial tensions (why do they always mail them to Bolty?), and no doubt the usual suspects will lap it up. Interesting usage of the word "Englishmen", creating the impression that the other people aren't "Englishmen" (WTF is an Englishman anyway?).
October 27, 201114 yr Author Sentencing here is based on previous records plus many other factors. I'm guessing that all the parties involved here are all slightly unstable so may not be angels. Course that won't stop someone wording it in an attempt to stir up racial tensions (why do they always mail them to Bolty?), and no doubt the usual suspects will lap it up. Interesting usage of the word "Englishmen", creating the impression that the other people aren't "Englishmen" (WTF is an Englishman anyway?). You are kidding right? What are you insinuating? BNP membership or worse? I shouldn't really have to explain this to you but the lad played football at the same club as me until about 4 years ago. It was addressed to a whole bunch of us ex-Perth Royals. Nothing sinister - just fact. Going off what CWP posted, it sounds like he plucked it from FB as it is a particular area of interest for him. The 'usual suspects' tag could also be applied to certain folk who privately believe that anything of this nature should not even be discussed. Had I not posted it and read CWP's response, I may have harboured a sense of injustice instead of believing the bloke who concocted this story is a deceitful shithouse.
October 27, 201114 yr Just received an e-mail from a Hammer I know who has moved back from Perth to Essex. Is the following correct or exaggerated shiyte? In May 2010 Tohseef Shah spray painted a British War Memorial with "islam will dominate Osama" he was fined ?50 & walked free from court. In November 2010, Emdadur Choudhury burned a Poppy during the 2mins silence. He too was given a fine, ?50 and walked free from court. Last week in a Portsmouth Court, 2 Englishmen were sentenced to 6 months in prison for painting a Poppy on a mosque. Sounds about rite for this fcuked up so called justice system we have in this country Emdadur Choudhury and Tohseef Shah should have been jailed for life,makes no odds if they are black,brown,white, blue or even pink,utter utter dirty scumbags
October 27, 201114 yr Sounds about rite for this fcuked up so called justice system we have in this country Emdadur Choudhury and Tohseef Shah should have been jailed for life,makes no odds if they are black,brown,white, blue or even pink,utter utter dirty scumbags as should the two "englishmen" as well surely if we're going to be that extreme
October 28, 201114 yr as should the two "englishmen" as well surely if we're going to be that extreme Dont talk so fcuking soft
October 29, 201114 yr Why shouldn't they be? Do you not think that bunning a poppy and spaying one on a Mosque is the same,well if you do your so wrong. I respect our troops and have no time for scum that disrespects them,shoot um all i would
October 29, 201114 yr Do you not think that bunning a poppy and spaying one on a Mosque is the same,well if you do your so wrong. I respect our troops and have no time for scum that disrespects them,shoot um all i would aye but they lobbed a brick through a window not just sprayed a poppy on a mosque.
October 29, 201114 yr aye but they lobbed a brick through a window not just sprayed a poppy on a mosque. Still not as bad i've lobbed loads of bricks through windows,not as bad as burning a poppy is it The fact is i know two wrongs dont make a right the poppy burners should be shot
October 29, 201114 yr Which is the kind of thing Hitler would have done. I suspect there's an irony in that that'll be missed somehow.
October 29, 201114 yr Still not as bad i've lobbed loads of bricks through windows,not as bad as burning a poppy is it The fact is i know two wrongs dont make a right the poppy burners should be shot so burning a bit of paper and plastic (despite its symbolism) is worse than damaging the property of a small businessman trying to make a living and the potential harm said brick could do to anyone on the other side of the window. I'm glad folk who think like you don't run the country
October 29, 201114 yr so burning a bit of paper and plastic (despite its symbolism) is worse than damaging the property of a small businessman trying to make a living and the potential harm said brick could do to anyone on the other side of the window. I'm glad folk who think like you don't run the country The link makes no mention of anything being thrown through a window.
October 29, 201114 yr http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-13365182 The defendants, who have not yet entered pleas, are also accused of carrying out vandal attacks on the Albert Guest House and the Milko store, both in Shotton Colliery. and Chris Baker, prosecuting at Durham Crown Court, said a taxi seen in the area at the time was similar to a vehicle spotted later in Potto Street, Shotton Colliery, County Durham, where an upstairs window at the Milco convenience store was put out with a brick. Similar graffiti to that sprayed at the mosque was daubed at both the shop and the nearby Albert Guest House, in Front Street, both run by an Asian businessman. Mr Baker told the court: "There's a certain irony in that the targeted store was selling poppies at the time." so, the bricking did happen anybody else want to defend 'em
October 29, 201114 yr The link makes no mention of anything being thrown through a window. according to CWP's explanation of the crimes they did more than just pray paint the mosque which included bricking a window
October 29, 201114 yr http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-13365182 and so, the bricking did happen anybody else want to defend 'em Yeah, I'll give it a go. Your link from May '11 mentions accusations made, which included a brick throwing event. The link posted earlier, the one where they were found guilty, makes no mention of bricks, only a graffiti attack. Edited October 29, 201114 yr by Mixu
October 29, 201114 yr Yeah, I'll give it a go. Your link from May '11 mentions accusations made, which included a brick throwing event. The link posted earlier, the one where they were found guilty, makes no mention of bricks, only a graffiti attack. Why even try and stick up for them? They are obviously cretins.
October 29, 201114 yr Why even try and stick up for them? They are obviously cretins. because theys not muslamics like them brahn wons
October 29, 201114 yr Why even try and stick up for them? They are obviously cretins. They are and racist ones at that. But what they have been found guilty of is equivalent, to a reasonable mind, to the two other cases mentioned but their sentance isn't.
October 29, 201114 yr They are and racist ones at that. But what they have been found guilty of is equivalent, to a reasonable mind, to the two other cases mentioned but their sentance isn't. they vandalised three properties the Asian guys committed one count of vandalism and one count of outraging public decency perhaps that's why the sentences were different.
October 29, 201114 yr Is there no ancient English law that could've jailed the poppy burners? The white lads were clearly racists who randomly attacked & as such deserved to be punished, but a fine for burning a symbol of hope seems wrong to me. The anti-poppy brigade of bigots probably don't even know why we use that symbol. Then again, the white lads probably didn't either.
Just received an e-mail from a Hammer I know who has moved back from Perth to Essex. Is the following correct or exaggerated shiyte?
In May 2010 Tohseef Shah spray painted a British War Memorial with "islam will dominate Osama" he was fined ?50 & walked free from court.
In November 2010, Emdadur Choudhury burned a Poppy during the 2mins silence. He too was given a fine, ?50 and walked free from court.
Last week in a Portsmouth Court, 2 Englishmen were sentenced to 6 months in prison for painting a Poppy on a mosque.