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Bolton V Wigan

£33 for an adult ticket for them. Think it was £15 for us earlier in the season.

 

The big problem is, it'll probably knock on to next season so we'll say goodbye to the cheap local games. 

 

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I will never in my lifetime consider wigan as rivals to Bolton wanderers,never never never never.no matter wot part of this town I might move to,just don't have a rival if need be...fuckin wigan

wigan

There are very few genuine rivalries.

 

Most of the fake ones are born of jealousy to a bigger local club. Our hatred of United, Bury's of us, Burnley's of Blackburn etc. This isn't a rivalry, as someone said above, because it's only one way.

 

Most rivalries develop through being the same size and competing the same area. Liverpool v Everton, Tottenham v Arsenal, United v City etc.

 

Then there are the other kind, like we have with Wolves and Tranmere. Not based on locality, more based on an event (or events) that sparked the situation.

The Burnley Blackburn thing is very much two way mate.

 

The biggest rivalries IMO are the rivalries born or escalated for non footballing reasons.

 

Ie Pompy/Southampton and the dockers strike saga, Cardiff/Swansea for plentiful reasons, the Sheffield derby due to steelworker disputes and generic scrapping every Saturday night, and dare is say it the Bpool/Preston derby. People from the two towns simply don't get on,which was born from BAE site worker disputes in the 60's/70's involving sites at strand road Preston and Warton etc.

As long i have been going we haven't had a consistent derby match as teams going up/down etc,prob the longest period in same division together is blackburn. I preferred playing the port vales,stokes in the 90s to any local game.

I dislike most of them. Can't really be arsed with City or Oldham, Rochdale aren't on the radar and I can't raise any enthusiasm about Preston.

 

I can't stand United that'll always be the case. However, eight or nine years ago I stopped feeling gutted if we lost against them. They're out of our orbit - even when we're in the same league as them. Beating them was still fantastic though!

 

Bury? Hate the fact that they kept beating us in the 80s but they're as small time as it gets.

 

That leaves the shower with whom we currently share the Championship. Wigan? Certainly dislike them - but no more so than Blackburn. Always had a respect for Burnley but that's diminished in recent times. That leaves Blackpool, another set of petty Bolton Wanderers haters. I'm looking forward to the Wigan match on March 29 but also to the Blackpool game on March 25 and hoping we can beat them in the league for the first time since we started playing them again in 2010. Hope we don't overlook the Blackpool game just because it is followed by Wigan.

There are very few genuine rivalries.

 

 

There are plenty; not sure what your definition of genuine is but city wise you've got a fair few

 

The obvious ones like utd v city, Liverpool v everton, down to smaller ones likes bristol rovers v city, Stoke v port vale etc

 

Then two neighbouring towns like Newcastle Sunderland, pompey Southampton, blackburn burnley to further afield like Ipswich Norwich and I've even been to a Peterborough Cambridge game and they hate each other

 

Chuck in the likes of utd Liverpool and I start to get jealous we don't have one

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There are plenty; not sure what your definition of genuine is but city wise you've got a fair few

 

The obvious ones like utd v city, Liverpool v everton, down to smaller ones likes bristol rovers v city, Stoke v port vale etc

 

Then two neighbouring towns like Newcastle Sunderland, pompey Southampton, blackburn burnley to further afield like Ipswich Norwich and I've even been to a Peterborough Cambridge game and they hate each other

 

Chuck in the likes of utd Liverpool and I start to get jealous we don't have one

Millwall/West Ham

Villa v Birmingham

Luton v Watford

Wolves v West Brom

 

Etc etc

 

Have you been for that brain scan yet snoop?

RMI v Marine. We hated playing those horrible bastards.

The Burnley Blackburn thing is very much two way mate.

 

The biggest rivalries IMO are the rivalries born or escalated for non footballing reasons.

 

Ie Pompy/Southampton and the dockers strike saga, Cardiff/Swansea for plentiful reasons, the Sheffield derby due to steelworker disputes and generic scrapping every Saturday night, and dare is say it the Bpool/Preston derby. People from the two towns simply don't get on,which was born from BAE site worker disputes in the 60's/70's involving sites at strand road Preston and Warton etc.

 

Millwall/West Ham

Villa v Birmingham

Luton v Watford

Wolves v West Brom

 

Etc etc

 

All same-sized clubs from the same area (with possible exception of Millwall/West Ham)... which was my point. Any confrontations that may occur only serve to fuel that rivalry.

 

Have you been for that brain scan yet snoop?

 

Not quite sure what you're referring to here.

RMI v Marine. We hated playing those horrible bastards.

I went to a few tasty RMI v chorley games late 80s early 90s

All same-sized clubs from the same area (with possible exception of Millwall/West Ham)... which was my point. Any confrontations that may occur only serve to fuel that rivalry.

 

 

Not quite sure what you're referring to here.

I don't understand what qualifies as a genuine rivalry to you?

I went to a few tasty RMI v chorley games late 80s early 90s

. Aye.

Today's boring quiz question, no cheating. 2 football teams were formed by Lancashire & Yorkshire loco works. RMI were one, who was the other?

. Aye.

Today's boring quiz question, no cheating. 2 football teams were formed by Lancashire & Yorkshire loco works. RMI were one, who was the other?

 

 

Doncaster?

 

York?

I don't understand what qualifies as a genuine rivalry to you?

 

I think you really need to learn how to read then... it was spelled out quite clearly.

Doncaster?

 

York?

Cold. Think rivalry, it's relevant

Newton heath.

Newton heath.

Anything from the top shelf :)

I just find it confusing because there seems to be quite a few genuine rivalries. Anyway when's someone going to do a link to that rivalry survey from the early 2000s. Weren't we in the top ten most hated?

Anything from the top shelf :)

Get in! Could have been so different, RMI megastore, 70000 at grundy hill would have been a bugger for parking. All the foreign glory hunters could have stayed at the crown for the match

A rivalry is hardly going to flourish if they don't play each other is it?

I just find it confusing because there seems to be quite a few genuine rivalries. Anyway when's someone going to do a link to that rivalry survey from the early 2000s. Weren't we in the top ten most hated?

 

See that's the problem. Most hated doesn't necessarily mean that we have the most rivalry. It just means other clubs think our fans are all dicks.

You can't mess with time though, ask Michael J Fox at the under the sea dance. Plus, if they'd have increased the capacity there's no way they'd have built the pool and so I'd never have seen the dolphins as a child.

Everything for a reason. :)

See that's the problem. Most hated doesn't necessarily mean that we have the most rivalry. It just means other clubs think our fans are all dicks.

Seriously snoop...what are you on about??

 

You don't think Millwall v west ham is a genuine rivalry?

 

Or west Brom wolves?

 

Just because they are similar sized clubs?

 

I still don't get it.

 

What rivalry would you consider genuine??

I think you really need to learn how to read then... it was spelled out quite clearly.

just confused me as you said there was very few genuine rivalries but then explained your criteria and this qualifies loads of clubs as having genuine rivals? I don't think we've got a genuine rival but in that survey loads of clubs had us as second or third team they hate. Always the bridesmaid never the bride us. Besides wigan it would be Bury or tranmere I suppose and none of us want that wedding.

The biggest rivalries IMO are the rivalries born or escalated for non footballing reasons.

 

Ie Pompy/Southampton and the dockers strike saga,

 

The Millwall/West Ham rivalry was also born out of a dispute over work contracts on the docks.

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