2 hours ago, Gonk said:

Aye, she could have weighed in windmilling with her ticket machine.

 

No*, but, given the right protocols being put in place (and training) she would carry some authorisation that meant she could inform and quickly summon a relevant response. That she'd be immediately taken seriously - she'd know the precise details of the train including its location, she'd be also be better placed to get to a secure location to do the above and ensure her own safety and, hopefully, the safety of passengers.

Surely this would be preferable to a member of the public whispering on a mobile to some "Which service do you require?" operator in a call centre, with little to prove veracity of the incident nor precise detail and all while probably cowering in the bog or under the seats in rightful fear for their own safety..?

 

* If the conductor was a bloke however, a bloke specifically currently or previously involved with F.V. - then the terrorists wouldn't stand a chance from his windmilling counterattack, whether ticket machine aided or not.

 

Edited January 6, 20197 yr by Youri McAnespie

4 minutes ago, Youri McAnespie said:

No, but given the right protocols being put in place (and training) she could carry authorisation that meant she could inform relevant response and she'd be immediately taken seriously - she'd know the precise details of the train including its location, she'd be also be better placed to get to a secure location to do the above.

Surely this would be preferable to a member of the public whispering on a mobile to some "Which service do you require?" operator in a call centre, with little to prove veracity of the incident nor precise detail and all while probably cowering in the bog or under the seats in rightful fear for their own safety..?

Agreed. The train itself has an instant communication between train and control centre using trackside transmit/receive antennae. Such an emergency message would not only alert the emergency services, it would also give the precise location of the incident.

(Guess which Policy and Procedure doc I was writing in the final days of my career)

4 minutes ago, MickyD said:

Agreed. The train itself has an instant communication between train and control centre using trackside transmit/receive antennae. Such an emergency message would not only alert the emergency services, it would also give the precise location of the incident.

(Guess which Policy and Procedure doc I was writing in the final days of my career)

Well that, and the fact I'm a rabid socialist.

Anyway, back to the opening post, in relation to the title, I'd put forward Sir Ken on the Heathrow Express circa May 2016, off to Portugal himself and in great spirits - posing for photos and having the fellow passengers laughing, superb.

So we employ 100s, 1000s of train guards to sort out the odd nutter on a train

I don't think that's sensible use of our cash

It's not 'our' cash - once its in the coffers of the c*nts running these failing quango-like corporations...

Stuff like this, it's not to decrease inefficiencies.

It's to increase profit and for bigger butties for shareholders.

Having or not having a train guard should be about the need for a guard, not about whether the train company feels the savings by not having them could increase the company's profitability.

2 hours ago, MickyD said:

Having or not having a train guard should be about the need for a guard, not about whether the train company feels the savings by not having them could increase the company's profitability.

If it starts happening more than once in God knows how many million train journeys, I'll give your opinion some thought 

The train companies would probably consider a rape or two and a couple of toddlers and of pissed-up revellers getting killed beneath the wheels every week as acceptable if they could lay off their guards...

Supporting getting rid of all these roles is all well and good until, eventually, they come for you...

Then it'll be all "Power to the people! Everyone out!"

But by then it'll be too late.

We're getting rid of jobs with no thought or preparation for a 'leisure/arts' etc. society of the future - there's still a mindset of anyone not doing sixty hours graft per week is a lazy c*nt who deserves a kick in the c*nt and a trip to the foodbank. Increased automation and the rest and less work for folk ain't compatible with this mindset.

What do they get paid in relation to value for money. 

They want rid of merseyrail guards but have more fine nazis so it’s mental.