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So my virgin deal is up shortly and I begrudge paying £90 pm

now I’m not arsed about the whole package it came as the Mrs got the offer so really it’s sports & internet (currently on virgins M500 whatever that means)

what do the good people of wanderersways have? 

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3 minutes ago, L/H White said:

IPTV

So what’s required for this just good internet?

forgive my ignorance I know Jack shit about all this  

Edited by radcliffe white

yeah basially mate

internet, an app called IPTV smarters and £30 a 1/4

they'll be other deals out there etc... but i've had my nearly 3 years and never had an issue with it

no buffering, not been closed down etc...

I think Zico is still on the same priovider

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Does IOTV have Ultra HD, recording ability and live pause/rewind etc same as SkyQ?

Also, does it have all the boxsets and catch up stuff?

If so, might be time for me to change as well.

I use mustard smarters iptv. 4k firestick or nvidia shield and bt broadband. If you can get BT fibre, I'd always go with them, I've been in telecoms for over 20 yrs.

 

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3 minutes ago, peelyfeet said:

I use mustard smarters iptv. 4k firestick or nvidia shield and bt broadband. If you can get BT fibre, I'd always go with them, I've been in telecoms for over 20 yrs.

 

So regarding broadband what’s the best option? 

1 minute ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

So regarding broadband what’s the best option? 

depends what you can get. Go on bt.com and put your address in, and it will bring speed and  deals up. Sky, ee, talk talk, post office etc is BT wholesale bband plugged into an inferior core network in the exchange, so in essence, discount, lower quality BT. Breaks more often, takes longer to get fixed, higher chance of bandwidth/ latency issues.

Virgin have their own network.

Make sure you can get fibre with BT 

 

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4 minutes ago, peelyfeet said:

depends what you can get. Go on bt.com and put your address in, and it will bring speed and  deals up. Sky, ee, talk talk, post office etc is BT wholesale bband plugged into an inferior core network in the exchange, so in essence, discount, lower quality BT. Breaks more often, takes longer to get fixed, higher chance of bandwidth/ latency issues.

Virgin have their own network.

Make sure you can get fibre with BT 

 

Yeah I did that earlier can get full fibre starting at £26 for 35mb-36, currently on virgins M500 but been having problems 

36 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

Yeah I did that earlier can get full fibre starting at £26 for 35mb-36, currently on virgins M500 but been having problems 

You'll need to decide if 35mb is good enough for what you are doing in your house, M500 is adverstised as a lot faster than that 

BB

There are 2 ways your BB can get to your house and that is BTs network and Virgins network

So, everything other than Virgin, is using the same 'wiring'

 

Fwiw, I'd love Virgin but can only have BT here, Sky BB actually, but the BT cabling

Best I can get is 22meg as the nearerst box is in another time zone. :)

can't get Virgin to do a 10 foot dig

 

TV...Sky all day long

 

7 minutes ago, peelyfeet said:

You'll need to decide if 35mb is good enough for what you are doing in your house, M500 is adverstised as a lot faster than that 

my 22, while bot what I'd want, holds up well enough inc the lads 24/7 xbox

Biggest issue we have is if we have folk round and they're on our Internet....we have about 20 devices of our own and the sonos struggle

 

How long before everybody is using 5g for home Internet

Will it happen?

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2 hours ago, Casino said:

BB

There are 2 ways your BB can get to your house and that is BTs network and Virgins network

So, everything other than Virgin, is using the same 'wiring'

 

Fwiw, I'd love Virgin but can only have BT here, Sky BB actually, but the BT cabling

Best I can get is 22meg as the nearerst box is in another time zone. :)

can't get Virgin to do a 10 foot dig

 

TV...Sky all day long

 

The wirirng is the same from your house to the cabinet, and often onto the exchange, but then takes a different pathway once in the exchange and onwards, depending on which provider you are with - this is called the core network.

Imagine that the wiring between your house is a B road  and the core network is a motorway -

Some of the motorways have 10 lanes, no traffic jams, lots of exit roads for diversions and links to other motorways, and ongoing maintenence

Other motorways have 2 lanes, not so many exit roads, more traffic jams, queues to get on and off,  and not as much maintenence going on.

There might be a higher speed limit on the 2 laned motorway, but this doesn't me you'll get a better experience all of the time.

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Yeah, i get that

So, apparently, i'm 1020m from the box

Which isnt great?

Wouldnt care, but i dont live in a field

 

And then my home wiring is all over the place, so the plug thing i bought for juniors room only works in certain sockets  :)

finally about 4 months ago, virgin agreed to come and dig

but didnt turn up

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2 hours ago, L/H White said:

yeah basially mate

internet, an app called IPTV smarters and £30 a 1/4

they'll be other deals out there etc... but i've had my nearly 3 years and never had an issue with it

no buffering, not been closed down etc...

I think Zico is still on the same priovider

£30 per quarter? Fucking hell, you're being fleeced.

2 hours ago, Casino said:

Yeah, i get that

So, apparently, i'm 1020m from the box

Which isnt great?

Wouldnt care, but i dont live in a field

 

And then my home wiring is all over the place, so the plug thing i bought for juniors room only works in certain sockets  :)

finally about 4 months ago, virgin agreed to come and dig

but didnt turn up

Virgin are decent if you dont have any issues, I've had them several times in the past, and before that when it was telewest - if you do have an issue (and plenty customers do), they can be a nightmare  - I've had a customer without service for over a year, and customers with repeated ongoing issues for years, loads of engineer horror stories - as a business we no longer provide their services - not worth the hassle, we were spending more time chasing up Virgin than anything else.

5G will take a while to roll out and be used to it's full extent, can't see wires going away for a while https://www.visualcapitalist.com/visualized-where-5g-will-change-the-world/

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I've got Virgin broadband and their most basic TV package. I've also got IPTV on a firestick that costs £30 per year.

@radcliffewhite1 if you want to see how the IPTV works, nip round to Tom's. I set his up for him. 

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6 minutes ago, DazBob said:

I've got Virgin broadband and their most basic TV package. I've also got IPTV on a firestick that costs £30 per year.

@radcliffewhite1 if you want to see how the IPTV works, nip round to Tom's. I set his up for him. 

Thanks I totally forgot he mentioned that last week👍 Btw what you pay for your virgin 

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46 minutes ago, Casino said:

BB

There are 2 ways your BB can get to your house and that is BTs network and Virgins network

So, everything other than Virgin, is using the same 'wiring'

 

Fwiw, I'd love Virgin but can only have BT here, Sky BB actually, but the BT cabling

Best I can get is 22meg as the nearerst box is in another time zone. :)

can't get Virgin to do a 10 foot dig

 

TV...Sky all day long

 

Had virgin since we moved in but had internet problems on the last few months 

bt have been doing work around Turks road area  for ages a neighbour reckons his bt Internet is shit hot as we are on the main cable path or something (could be chatting) 

Can't remember tbh. Think it's between £30 - £35.

46 minutes ago, Casino said:

BB

There are 2 ways your BB can get to your house and that is BTs network and Virgins network

So, everything other than Virgin, is using the same 'wiring'

 

Fwiw, I'd love Virgin but can only have BT here, Sky BB actually, but the BT cabling

Best I can get is 22meg as the nearerst box is in another time zone. :)

can't get Virgin to do a 10 foot dig

 

TV...Sky all day long

 

we get 40mb ish, on BT business broadband, which is better still than residential - at the moment we have 4 laptops, 4 mobiles, 2 xboxes, 3 firesticks, 3 amazon echos, 2 ipads, 2 Tvs all connected at various times together throughout the day and works fine for us - get the odd "this internet is crap" shout from one of the kids in a remote room when playig fifa every now and again, bu think thats the wifi more than the bband

4 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

Thanks I totally forgot he mentioned that last week👍 Btw what you pay for your virgin 

Itll be more for a virgin in radcliffe

Supply and demand, you see

6 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

Had virgin since we moved in but had internet problems on the last few months 

bt have been doing work around Turks road area  for ages a neighbour reckons his bt Internet is shit hot as we are on the main cable path or something (could be chatting) 

if you're near to cabinet it reduces the length of the copper from the cabinet to your house - theoretically, the  shorter the copper line, the better the bandwidth - the cabling from the cabinet onwards to the exchange and out onto the internet is fibre - doesn't matter how long the fibre line is

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29 minutes ago, peelyfeet said:

if you're near to cabinet it reduces the length of the copper from the cabinet to your house - theoretically, the  shorter the copper line, the better the bandwidth - the cabling from the cabinet onwards to the exchange and out onto the internet is fibre - doesn't matter how long the fibre line is

Thanks for that 

just onto bt they can offer 67mb for 29.99 pm which sounds good for my usage 

12 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

Thanks for that 

just onto bt they can offer 67mb for 29.99 pm which sounds good for my usage 

for a normal household that sounds ample mate, if you go down the IPTV route its always better if you can get your android device (4k firsetick or better) wired into the router instead of using wifi. You can buy an ethernet adaptor for a firestick for example.

If you go iptv, and they have a support team, ask them what android device they recommend - some of the ones on sale on amazon/ebay are shite, and might not work in the near future

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