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from the telegraph

 

Sir Alex Ferguson exploded into a rage yesterday when asked whether his Manchester United and England striker Wayne Rooney should expect a Football Association inquiry into his Boxing Day clash with Bolton Wanderers defender Tal Ben Haim.

 

 

The United manager banged the desk at his club's Carrington training ground and shouted abuse at his questioners when the issue of Rooney was raised as part of a media briefing for tonight's Premiership match at Aston Villa.

 

Reporters' tape recorders were knocked to the ground as Ferguson went ballistic in defence of his teenage player, who may anyway have escaped a three-match suspension. The failure of Alan Wiley, the fourth official at Sunday's Old Trafford fixture, to bring the matter to the attention of referee Dermot  

 

Gallagher indicates that he did not feel the offence was serious enough to be punished.

 

If that message is conveyed to the FA when they re-open for business tomorrow after their Christmas break, then no action will be taken against Rooney. If, however, the authorities decide an offence of violent conduct was committed, a three-match ban is likely to imposed from New Year's Day.

 

An irate Ferguson insisted that Rooney, shown on television pushing his hand into the face of Ben Haim, who fell in feigned agony, "had done nothing that deserved going up before the FA". He argued that Ben Haim should be the one taken to task for the way he reacted to the confrontation ??? action that has been criticised by Bolton manager Sam Allardyce and experienced team-mate Gary Speed, both of whom observed that he "went down too easily".

 

Ferguson maintained that it was his respect for the way Allardyce runs Bolton's affairs that made him tone down his attack on the Israeli defender. Privately, however, he is seething, and took out his frustrations on astonished football writers.

 

He described Ben Haim as "a disgrace" and complained that not enough is done to rid the game of players who deliberately strive to get opponents sent off.

 

"Because it's Wayne Rooney and Manchester United there tends to be more of a focus, but the biggest concern is what the other player did," said Ferguson.

 

"He went down on the ground for two minutes. He should be the one going up before the FA, not Rooney. It's a disgrace. He [ben Haim] should be on a disrepute charge for rolling about in agony when all Rooney did was that [he gestured an open-palmed pushing movement]. Did he [Rooney] punch him? Of course he didn't. Wayne Rooney is only 19 ??? what do you want... blood?"

 

Ferguson's behaviour might have stemmed from the fact that he already has two of his four strikers ??? Ruud van Nistelrooy and Louis Saha ??? unavailable through injury and that the loss of a third at a time when United are desperately trying to revive their title challenge could have a serious impact on results.

 

However, fourth official Wiley may come to his rescue. He is understood to have told Bolton assistant manager Phil Brown during the half-time interval that he witnessed the incident, which followed a heavy challenge by Ben Haim on Rooney, but dismissed it as "nothing".

 

The key now is whether Wiley makes those observations official in his report. If he declares that he did not deem the incident worthy of reporting to Gallagher, the matter would effectively have been dealt with by the match officials at the time, and no further action could be taken against Rooney.

 

If, however, Wiley's official verdict is that he did not see the incident then the FA can study the video evidence, which would probably condemn Rooney under the new fast-track disciplinary system.

 

for one..did he raise his hands

 

for two..wiley saw it ](*,)

 

for three..theres nowt that says hes got to stand up and take being hit

 

for four...is it not time speed kept his fookin trap shut

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rooney was wrong! you cannot push/punch someone in the face!!! and expect to get away with it!!!

Ben Haim just did exactly the same as every other footballer! only he just stayed down that touch too long!!!

from the telegraph

 

An irate Ferguson insisted that Rooney, shown on television pushing his hand into the face of Ben Haim, who fell in feigned agony, "had done nothing that deserved going up before the FA". He argued that Ben Haim should be the one taken to task for the way he reacted to the confrontation ??? action that has been criticised by Bolton manager Sam Allardyce and experienced team-mate Gary Speed, both of whom observed that he "went down too easily".

 

Ferguson maintained that it was his respect for the way Allardyce runs Bolton's affairs that made him tone down his attack on the Israeli defender. Privately, however, he is seething, and took out his frustrations on astonished football writers.

 

He described Ben Haim as "a disgrace" and complained that not enough is done to rid the game of players who deliberately strive to get opponents sent off.

 

Having seen it during the many replays, I have come to the conclusion that, rather than 'merely' a shove in the face, Rooney deliberately pushed his finger in Ben Haim's eyes!

 

In those circumstances I'm sure many of us would have gone down like a roll of lino too!

I think Ben Haim should have chased after the little shit and smacked him one back - this might have encourage the rest of the team to pile-in - thus bringing some atmosphere to the whole encounter. Maybe enough to ignite our season again!

I'm (nearly) with Fergy here, be honest Shrek did next to nowt wrong, a sending off in todays games granted, but ben rolling around like he'd been hit by a gaza strip sniper was a fuckin disgrace. How many cheered when shrek kicked it off at half time in turkey?

 

I only hope that when horseface or that one trick portugese pony goes down in the same way ol' taggart will be reminded of his comments.

"Because it's Wayne Rooney and Manchester United there tends to be more of a focus," said Ferguson.

 

Double-bluffing the FA. Bring it up first, make a big deal of it, put the onus on them picking on you, your star man and your club in general. It all helps deflect what really happened.

Its not everyone picking on MU. Its just fact that they get away with incidents, time and time again. RVN against Arsenal as a recent example. Ferdinand against Arsenal as well.

How about Rooney going down too easy for a penalty against Arsenal?

I'm (nearly) with Fergy here, be honest Shrek did next to nowt wrong, a sending off in todays games granted, but ben rolling around like he'd been hit by a gaza strip sniper was a raggin disgrace. How many cheered when shrek kicked it off at half time in turkey?

 

I only hope that when horseface or that one trick portugese pony goes down in the same way ol' taggart will be reminded of his comments.

 

too long following orders mate.

 

the think with any fergie speech liek this is to remember

 

1. he is trying to put pressure on someone, in this case the fa

2. what would his reaction be if one of his players had been pushed in the face ?

 

the yid did himslef no favours but why the fcuk should he ?

 

stan - speed was captain and agreed with sam, should sam shut up too ?

what has he said that is wrong ?

Should Alex Ferguson also get fined our whatever by the FA?

 

The rules are if you raise your hands you should be sent off, Ferguson said Shrek did nothing wrong, so surely he is bringing the game into disripute. Therefore Ferguson should be pulled up infront of the FA, facing both a touch-line ban and a fine!

fergie's going on about Tel Ben Hiam diving.. but didnt the whole thing start because granny-F*cker dived, which annoyed Ben Hiam and then there was the hit?

I'm with MickyD here, I thought Haim went down holding his eye.

 

If Fergie thinks that's nowt, I'd love to do nowt to him a couple of times.

PS I see Alibob's Anger Management Course vouchers I got her for Xmas haven't done much good yet :D

PS I see Alibob's Anger Management Course vouchers I got her for Xmas haven't done much good yet  :D

:oops:

 

and you obviously didn't use the driving lesson vouchers i got you :D

and you obviously didn't use the driving lesson vouchers i got you    :D

 

Says you!!!

 

The new car you've bought me hasn't arrived yet either [-(

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ian

 

i don't particularly think allardyce should say owt either, but he is the boss

 

i think the players as a group should be together, which is why i think speed shouldn't have had a go at diouf after the spitting incident either

 

methinks mr speed needs to spend less time giving quotes, and more concentrating on his game

Ben Haim being charged is fine by me.

 

As long the FA show consistency from now on.

 

Somehow I doubt it.

He shouldn't have gone down. I would hazard a guess that a few on this site have been in a similar situation with a crew rushing, copped a slap, and stayed up. Whats the point of being on the ground for 3 minutes, for a slap. This man is supposed to be a fully fit footballer, would the likes of Vinny Jones, Graeme Sourness, Norman Hunter, Ron Harris have done the same. I think not. They would have bided their time.

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