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Looking forward to today. Have had a Bolton ST for about 15 years but lived in Northampton for most of that time (next to the old cobblers ground/cricket pitch). Feels like my first home game! 2.5 hour clear run from Bolton but the roadworks (especially early on) make it about a 3 hour journey I would say. 50 mph on the M1 section down to J16 once you leave M6 - best way to come but if its blocked you can drop down the A428 and follow the country road to Northampton. Parking is not the best (cinema/Sainsbury type retail park area, there is a gravel car park on the top of the hill near the rubbish dump), I'm cabbing it from town (Bounds Taxis 01604 626262). Limited pubs near the ground - if you get there early head to town (Wetherspoons / Wig and Pen / Mail Coach/Princess Alexandra) Pubs that are relatively nearer the ground ( but still a fair walk) The Sevens is about the only one I can think of (near the Saints Rugby ground). If staying overnight try the pubs and curry houses on the Wellingborough Road (Crown and Cushion/Old house/Pickering Phipps/The lighthouse/Beer Guerilla (owners dad lives in Westhoughton I think he said) or the backstreet pubs (Artizan/Lamplighter). I just hope we win otherwise I'll have to go in hiding for a month !!

They scored on 60 mins and I think we carried on supporting them through the next 30. Feeney got some stick near us with that shite cross but I think overall the away support was superb tonight given the effort served up.

Support carried on after we went one down to be fair

Back from the game. MK Dons were the worst side I have seen at home in many a year. They offered nothing at all. That said I don't think we "controlled the game" as Lennon suggests. I think we have seen two sides who will be near the bottom of the league. We seemed to lack leadership and passion tonight and we have no goal threat at all though Clough was the only bright spot for me. We didn't have many clear cut chances. It was a mediocre game from mediocre players in two mediocre teams. It makes my blood boil that it seems to be acceptable to turn up and put in this performance against such a poor opposition. I'll probably get slated but my posting record is not usually negative. I am pissed off with Bolton tonight, maybe I will feel better tomorrow but to suggest we had "loads of chances" and "should have converted" is to go back to the Freeman era in my view.

Have us down at a spread of 53-55 points. Haven't seen us preseason but tempted to buy 55. I won't be touching 40/1 to win the league however. Any thoughts - are we THAT bad (only Rotherham below us on the spread) ?

I am in. Mrs is from Watford, we live an hour away. Her and the 2 kids going to father in laws in Bushey.....on an overnight stay. I am going to get blotto in the Vic, The Villiers and have a ruby at Chutneys........all 20 min walk from ground :-) Might meet some of you lot fort first time on one of my rare away trips in recent years!

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Hope they give DF more time before they decide to "Shut that door" on him.

Good form at the end of the season. Good trips next year (QPR, Forest, Donny for example). Competitive in every game next year. Good manager. Fantastic new curry house discovered as suggested on here (Sai Spice). Looking forward to next year already. Hopefully the Dougie Out threads will not start until after Christmas. Also my 3YO got a shout out on Talksport travelling up this morning (not sure if that counts as a positive though cos it was Micky Quinn). This post brought to you by 2 Cobras, 2 Fursty ferrets and a bottle of Pinot Noir from Aldi. Back to Northampton tomorrow - lasting memory....my 3YO chanting we are the one and only wanderers :-) I can't make every game - part due to cost, part due to career change last year.....sorry for being a #shitfan but I do try to get there whenever I can.

I am in. Dragging/bribing wife and daughter from Northampton for this game. Daughter just turned 3YO.......her home record so far: 3 wins 0 defeats........away record one draw (Forest) and one defeat (Peterborough). One of the home wins was when we hammered Blackpool in the Prem - hoping for a repeat performance. Anyone suggest any good curry houses for afterwards in the Hindley/Westhoughton or possibly Farnworth area - that was part of the bribe :-)

Put your rod away - school was closed due to the school transport buses not running :-) Having done 20 years in the private sector I also know where there are more lazy folk and it ain't in teaching.

And if I hit a 17 year old tomorrow I would be sacked. I look forward to the impressionable youngsters (many who unfortunately follow Chelsea) thinking that its ok to kick ball boys. They already have Rooney and Ferguson as classic role models in the treatment of officials.

Sorry my mistake. There is no pressure at all in teaching its very easy and rare to find confrontational situations. On the pressure scale between a newspaper round and a premiership footballer I'll try to work out which job on the scale is the first one where you can kick someone of school/6th form age and claim pressure as a mitigating factor.

If you can't see a link or equivalence then I'm not going to try to explain. Lets just say that if I kicked a child tomorrow I'd be sacked WHATEVER reason or context. He should deal with it professionally.

What would be the outcome if a teacher tried this with a year 11 or year 12 pupil? For some reason footballers are above the law.

I'm saying that this year if we had stayed in the prem we would be more than likely taking these sorts of hammerings. We held onto most of our first team players as you say - look how well they are doing in a division below. Lets not forget that Peterborough could and perhaps should have scored 4 in the first 20 minutes and could have had 8 or 9 at the end overall - it was THAT bad. Coyle would have been retained as manager if we had stayed up last year - yes we would have signed a couple.......but who ?........anything better than the signings he had made prior ? Look at QPR and Villa this season and how they are getting on - no doubt we would have been down there. For the record I'm not one of those that boo at games at half time. I don't attend every game and I don't consider myself overly negative normally but having travelled up the M6 from Northampton with an ST for over a decade, I hope my view that being in the prem would have been more miserable than being in the championship this year counts for something.

Losing 5-4 at P'Boro is still preferable to losing at Spurs/West Brom/Sunderland pick a number higher than 5 - 0 We didn't lose many players over summer (which tells you about the quality of our players more than anything), I cannot see how we would be anywhere apart from rock bottom in the Prem. Ngog tried yesterday, so did Afobe and Spearing to some degree but generally we are a poor team in the right division now as opposed to a poor team in the wrong division. Just my view but, as bad as it has been, so far I've enjoyed this season more than I did the last 3. Not sure about the animosity - its just my view. I am putting your frustration down to the recent performance of our team which we are all pi**ed off about. DF has his hands full and I hope some of the diplomatic noises about performance that he is making are just a management strategy whilst in the background (I hope) he is working on a way to fix the mess that we are in.

A bullet at high velocity could kill but if you use the mass of a football (what are they 0.5Kg) and the fact that a prem football can kick the thing at 40m/s (probably less than that).....then Newton's second law gives FT=Change in momentum (assuming the mass of the ball is constant). Assuming the ball stops dead and assuming the contact time with the head is 0.05 secs then this means the force = (0.5 x 40)/0.05 = 400N - acting on RVP's head. Given that boxers generate forces in excess of 3000N in a punch (and allowing for the fact that the change in momentum of the football is probably slightly bigger since the balls goes backward after impact with RVP.................. but I used a bigger number for the mass of the ball and the speed at which a footballer can kick a ball (which, if lowered to 0.45 kg and 30m/s, would bring the force on RVP's head much closer to 300N and even lower) to offset it). Anway I'm no biologist but I reckon Fergie is talking bollocks and may write to tell him so using more detailed calculations. Perhaps head rotation at 300N might cause his neck to snap but I doubt it .....and the skull I'm sure is designed to cope with 300N impact forces ?? Merry Christmas all at WWAYS :-) I'll get me coat or should that be anorak :-)

Positives: I was sat about 6 rows behind Frank. Not sure what he was shouting at Petrov when warming up but either the words or, the sight of a large chap with no shirt on and a "santa is a wanderer" hat, seemed to inspire him. Get Frank on the coaching staff Hopefully Posh will stay up so we get another trip next year. Negatives: Have been covered already. Its going to be a long season with a big goals against column.

My daughter is 2 and 3/4 ........she has a Bolton badge on her door. When she sees the club badge she says "daddy Bolton" without prompting. She has been to 3 home games and we have won all 3 - after the last game she went to nursery and told them that she had been to watch the white team beat the red one (Bristol City) at football. Her first away game is this week a Peterborough. I'll be mortified if she becomes a Man U fan in later life :-)

I'm in - its a home game for me :-)

Of course my enthusiasm might be tainted from the consistently upbeat statements of the last manager when he came in :-)

I didn't check his claims to be fair - but he definitely alluded to the Palace defence being "the worst" in the league in terms of goals conceded when he came in and that he sorted it out - or at least that is what I heard on the interview.

Nothing ground breaking in the interview - pretty much said what you would expect him to say. The main themes I could identify: Sees his strength as having empathy with modern footballers - hence the view that Sordell just needs support. To be fair not everyone finds it easy to move and adapt so I take that as a real positive. If he can get Sordell firing that would be one of our big problems fixed. Sorted the defence at Palace (though how much of that was down to his sidekicks, I guess only time will tell). His "transition" piece is interesting - I didn't know whether to read it at face value or whether it was just a diplomatic stalling line "lets not blame the defence" until he gets into the job proper. I've long felt that the back four does not get the protection that it did under Sam's regime so maybe thats what he will look to do first.I've seen lots of blame attached to Bogdan in recent matches - I'm not sure that its warranted. Whilst there is obvious frustration with the squad, I do agree that he does have sufficient players to get us much higher up this league.......not sure about promotion though.