Johnnyrotten

They did have Ryan Hardie, Niall Ennis, Bali Mumba, Finn Azaz and Morgan Whitaker (and Cosgrove). No idea if SS signed them or inherited them but if we had those now it would be a crime not to be in the top 3 or 4.

And Morecambe.

Sorry I misread, thought Hudds were in for Forrester not Stockport. Original point still stands though, regarding getting better than him at the price. If we can find a better/less injury prone replacement, it must be someone Stockport aren't aware of. Anyway, what will be will be, I trust SS to do the right thing whether its sales or purchases.

I like Forrester and more than happy to keep him, but I wouldn't have him down as faster than Johnston, or any of our defenders, often gets caught out for pace. Toal probably the fastest of those left from last season. Santos was always expected to recover well and catch anyone that's got a couple of yards on him, I don't see the same speed in Forrester.

I was just replying to @only1swanny about Forrester

That's easier said than done, or we'd have maybe got one in already? And if better is available at the price, Huddersfield mustn't know about him (I realise that's too simplistic, as fans we've watched these players for years and still can't agree who's better than who). But Hudds will be aware of his injury record and are still reportedly prepared to pay for him rather than sign someone less injury prone, presumably because they can't find someone better available.

Fair to say they probably won't last 90 minutes (how many strikers do?) but Wells and Mullins won't have signed to not start games, especially Wells dropping to L1, I'd expect him to be a main striker for Luton. McGoldrick was starting most games last season so he'll think he's fit enough to start, no doubt his game time will be "managed" but they won't have many better strikers.

Once a club knows a player has value, it seems to be the done thing to get them to sign a contract. They may have no intention of them playing, but they won't be getting to the last year of their deals when fees start to reduce. They know they can get upwards of half a mil for him and the value won't diminish in 6 months or a year if he's got a couple of years left. Wrexham tried to get Dalby to sign an extension even though they clearly didn't want him, and luckily for us he didn't so we got him on a free

Another veteran gone to a "rival" - Nakhi Wells to Luton. A mere 35. They've also signed Rotherham's player of the season who's been with them 4 years. I thought I'd have at least heard his name but a new one to me - Hakeem Odoffin - ??

He could certainly do the "Jerome" role (and more), but hard to say without knowing who we bring in instead. In the short term the bar is low, we just need somebody relatively proven for the first few games, but SS and Fergal will understandably be looking at it long term so I'll let them get on with it.

He'll be 38 in November 😀 Definitely at the age when, if he has a bad game, everyone says "he's past it".

Barnsley signed David McGoldrick, obviously getting on but a class act.

Hopefully not. But its a timely reminder that injuries happen (to us) and however strong our keeper, full backs, CBs, midfielders and wingers are, if we don't have 2 decent fit strikers for 90% of league games, we aren't going to get far. We know we'll have plenty cover in other positions even if eg Tomo has to play LB, but we can't function without strikers and if we don't start the season with another two we've only ourselves to blame when we're down to 1 fit striker.

Agreed in principle, but it depends who's replacing them. I wasn't gutted when Dapo left (he wasn't playing well and/or out of position/starting 11) but if you'd told me we'd be replacing him with the likes of Vic, Dan and Williams (ie left sided attacker) I'd have been fuming. Not many would be gutted at losing McAtee or Randall, but when you see Etete coming in you realise there are worse out there. But we trust SS to only get rid if he's bringing better in.

Unbelievable. He played 54 games in 4 years and Leeds were relegated, so money well spent. He sat on his backside for a year when they were in the championship to avoid triggering transfer fee add on's.

So assuming he wants to play, he's either going out on loan to L1 or L2, or we're selling him to MK Dons 😀 They must be getting inundated with calls from agents touting their out of favour players willing to drop down to L2. A 3 year deal seems generous for a relatively unproven player at this level, until compared to the 4 year contracts we're giving out now!

We should undoubtedly have got more than £2.5mil for Holding, but I'd argue about him having a better Prem career. I'd say he's got found out at that level, and he can't get in the Palace team. Arsenal picked him more than they intended because of injuries and he didn't cover himself in glory the season they blew the title. Brooks is still playing for Bournemouth and Wales after recovering from cancer. I'd have Holding back here any day but I think his Prem days are behind him.

To be fair at the time nobody thought Forest had overpaid. Clough looked certain to have a career at championship level, as bad as it went for him I still remember some of his goals were outstanding, he had talent. As compared to Madine where none of us could believe the fee and still can't 😀

If he needs help from two players, its a no from me 😀. Anyway its a loan and feels like a no-risk signing, if he's no better than Schon and Tutu, he won't play and we aren't stuck with him, so let's see what he can do in L1.

they match my ambition (as per @waffer cup 07) as soon as I spoke to the gaffer I knew I wanted to be part of this project I can't wait to meet the lads and get started looking forward to showing the fans what I can do

And our scheduled opponents are Wimbledon, Burton and Stevenage - presumably not bursting with internationals. So it might be just down to us and not who we're playing.

Realistically you're just talking about Gale aren't you? Warren possibly, but not really expected to make an impression on the first team this season unless I'm misreading that one. The other signings are either on loan or not in the "young" category, as in not expected to gain in value significantly. Course we hope they are all great signings, get us promoted and increase their value, but that's the case every season, we were hoping McAtee, Lolos, Forino would have that impact last season irrespective of age.

Aasgaard left Luton to go to Russell Martin's Rangers, they've lost a few decent players now.

I agree he wasn't quite good enough, but its only a good decision if we get someone in at least as good. Hard to imagine us getting a better keeper as a no.2 really, but we'll see.

Had a lot of injuries, according to Wiki didn't play at all last season although that may not be accurate. Also after Brad Potts, another PNE player, he'd be a great signing, very physical and effective for this level.