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The five teams we can get are......

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CSKA prepare for cup defence

Friday, 26 August 2005

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Eighty teams enter today's UEFA Cup first-round draw at 13.00CET in Monaco knowing they are just one tie from the competition's group stage.

 

Different routes

All 32 winners from the second qualifying round will go into the pots along with the 29 teams who received a bye to the first round, the three UEFA Intertoto Cup winners - Olympique de Marseille, RC Lens and Hamburger SV - and the 16 teams defeated in the UEFA Champions League third qualifying round.

 

Road to group stage

The teams are split into eight groups of ten teams, with five seeds in each pool to be drawn against any of the five unseeded clubs. The sides that emerge victorious from the two-legged ties, scheduled for 15 and 29 September, will then be split into eight pools of five, with the first of five group stage matchdays on 20 October.

 

CSKA defence

Holders PFC CSKA Mosvka and last season's finalists Sporting Clube de Portugal are among the teams in the draw. Eight future contenders will not yet take part - that octet will join the competition in the last 32 after finishing third in their respective Champions League groups. However, two of the three Fair Play entrants - 1. FSV Mainz 05 and Viking FK - are involved.

 

French sextet

There are three former European champions in draw - FC Steaua Bucuresti, Hamburg and Marseille, one of six French Ligue 1 sides in contention. The southern club are joined by Lens, AJ Auxerre, Stade Rennais, RC Strasbourg and AS Monaco FC - the team with the shortest journey to the Grimaldi Forum. Group 1: Seeded Unseeded

AJ Auxerre (FRA) PFC Levski Sofia (BUL)

PAOK FC (GRE) FC K??benhavn (DEN)

SK Slavia Praha (CZE) FC Dinamo Bucuresti (ROU)

Hamburger SV (GER) FC Metalurh Donetsk (UKR)

Everton FC (ENG) Cork City FC (IRL)

 

 

 

 

Group 2: Seeded Unseeded

Bayer 04 Leverkusen (GER) SC Braga (POR)

Olympique de Marseille (FRA) PFC CSKA Sofia (BUL)

PFC CSKA Moskva (RUS) KFC Germinal Beerschot Antwerpen (BEL)

FK Crvena Zvezda (SCG) FC Midtjylland (DEN)

Grasshopper-Club (SUI) Myllykosken Pallo-47 (FIN)

 

 

 

 

Group 3: Seeded Unseeded

Feyenoord (NED) 1. FSV Mainz 05 (GER)

Sevilla FC (ESP) Vit??ria FC (POR)

FC Basel 1893 (SUI) Hibernian FC (SCO)

FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk (UKR) AFC Rapid Bucuresti (ROU)

UC Sampdoria (ITA) NK ??iroki Brijeg (BIH)

 

 

 

 

Group 4; Seeded Unseeded

VfB Stuttgart (GER) Stade Rennais FC (FRA)

AZ Alkmaar (NED) Vit??ria SC (POR)

Wisla Krak??w (POL) V??lerenga IF (NOR)

CA Osasuna (ESP) FC Krylya Sovetov Samara (RUS)

FC Steaua Bucuresti (ROU) NK Dom??ale (SLO)

 

 

 

 

Group 5: Seeded Unseeded

Sporting Clube de Portugal (POR) RC Strasbourg (FRA)

FC Lokomotiv Moskva (RUS) Halmstads BK (SWE)

Middlesbrough FC (ENG) Xanthi FC (GRE)

Grazer AK (AUT) SK Brann (NOR)

US Citt?? di Palermo (ITA) Anorthosis Famagusta FC (CYP)

 

 

 

Group 6; Seeded Unseeded

AS Roma (ITA) Aris Thessaloniki FC (GRE)

Besiktas JK (TUR) PFC Litex Lovech (BUL)

FK Partizan (SCG) FC Ban??k Ostrava (CZE)

SC Heerenveen (NED) Maccabi Petach-Tikva FC (ISR)

KRC Genk (BEL) Malm?? FF (SWE)

 

 

 

 

Group 7: Seeded Unseeded

AS Monaco FC (FRA) FK Teplice (CZE)

Hertha BSC Berlin (GER) Willem II (NED)

RCD Espanyol (ESP) Viking FK (NOR)

FK Austria Wien (AUT) FC Z??rich (SUI)

Br??ndby IF (DEN) APOEL FC (CYP)

 

 

 

 

Group 8: Seeded Unseeded

Galatasaray SK (TUR) FC Zenit St. Petersburg (RUS)

AEK Athens FC (GRE) Debreceni VSC (HUN)

RC Lens (FRA) Groclin Grodzisk Wielkopolski (POL)

FC Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR) Troms?? IL (NOR)

Bolton Wanderers FC (ENG) PFC Lokomotiv Plovdiv (BUL)

 

 

 

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that's lost me......completely

thank fook, thought it was just me...

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We have to draw one of the unseeded teams in our grouping. So it's Russia, Hungary, Poland, Norway or Bulgaria.

We have to draw one of the unseeded teams in our grouping. So it's Russia, Hungary, Poland, Norway or Bulgaria.

 

 

you sure?

 

sorry to be thick :D

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Got the info from a supposed reliable source, a Boro fan. And it is from the UEFA website.

please show your workings for extra marks...

The teams are split into eight groups of ten teams, with five seeds in each pool to be drawn against any of the five unseeded clubs.

 

Group 8: Seeded Unseeded  

Galatasaray SK (TUR) FC Zenit St. Petersburg (RUS)  

AEK Athens FC (GRE) Debreceni VSC (HUN)  

RC Lens (FRA) Groclin Grodzisk Wielkopolski (POL)  

FC Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR) Troms?? IL (NOR)  

Bolton Wanderers FC (ENG) PFC Lokomotiv Plovdiv (BUL)  

and just a thowt

 

do the winners of say the 5 clubs in grp8 then form the group for the nxt round?

Yes one from

 

FC Zenit St. Petersburg (RUS)

Debreceni VSC (HUN)

Groclin Grodzisk Wielkopolski (POL)

Troms?? IL (NOR)

PFC Lokomotiv Plovdiv (BUL)

 

Been to St. Petersburg - cheapest flights last time were with Air France via Amsterdam.

Been to Plovdiv in Bulgaria - this has an airport - so less fcking about.

I know Debreceni switched their game with Utd to Budapest - but might not feel we are big enough to switch grounds.

 

Not a clue about the others. Nearest airports would come in handy if someone can post them on here - hopefully before the draw we will all know which flights we require and which airlines travel there. Anyone with contact in the travel industry could be a devil and book flights now for all five destinations on both dates - basically get them on hold. I may enquire myself.

Trotski is correct......we are in for a long journey somewhere :D

Think Tromso is a change at Oslo job. No international flights direct.

 

No railways there either. 1000 miles north of Oslo if you fancy taking a transit van!!!

 

A proper journey!!!

Budapest - flights with Jet 2 - depart Man 07.40 on Thursday 15th arr 11.05.

depart Budapest 11.40 on Friday 16th arr. 13.40.

Cost ??168.14 includes taxes.

 

Alternatively come back Saturday morning for an extra ??10.

 

If we get them in the 2nd leg - its ??148.14 Thu-Fri. Or an extra ??10 for return on the Saturday.

shall we itk any more of your excellent info smiles :-k

Fags are cheap in Russia!

Debreceni VSC only holds 10200 ](*,)

What does seeded, unseeded mean in respective to the groups and why does it start with group 2??

 

I don't geddit at all ](*,)

MAGGIE, WHERE IS GRODZISK?

What I meaen to say is, are the first 5 teams in each group seeded and the 2nd 5 not??

Jules

 

Each group has five seeds (on the left) and five non-seeds (on the right) and each of the seeds will play one of the non-seeds from their group in this round.

 

 

The group one heading was not seperated from the text above it, that's all

 

 

I don't know, but I think it's very likely, that the five sides that progress in each group will also form the groups in the next stage.

 

Then 3 from each group go through and are joined by eight who drop out of the CL in the last 32...

Jules - unimportant at this stage. We know which five teams we may play. That's what counts. We need people online to work out the times, airlines, etc.

 

you can fly to Tromso with BMI / SAS - 2 stops en-route -13hrs travel time.

cost ??378 inc. tax.

dep Man Wed 19:10 Arr Tromso Thu 09.50

dep Tromso Fri 14.00 arr Man Fri 21.45

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