When I was in Lisbon for Euro 2004 my Nat West debit card was useless. The Pin numbers in Portugal (well the 4 machines I tried in Lisbon) are all 6 digit ones, and wouldn't accept mine.

 

Apparently some bank cards will let you put 00 at the beginning or end, but not all.

 

I had no problem with a VISA cash advance in the bank though.

I had no trouble in Lisbon in 2004 with my HSBC card. The machine accepted my four digit pin number.

Being pedantic (yes, I'm in one of those moods today), it's not a PIN number, it's a PIN. PIN stands for Personal Identification Number so adding the word "number" to the end just makes it sound as if you've a stammer.

Being pedantic (yes, I'm in one of those moods today), it's not a PIN number, it's a PIN.  PIN stands for Personal Identification Number so adding the word "number" to the end just makes it sound as if you've a stammer.

 

Yes it's similar to people saying The Hoi Polloi.

Indeed

or 'TSB Bank'

 

( Trustee Savings Bank ... Bank )

or PAT Testing

Being pedantic (yes, I'm in one of those moods today), it's not a PIN number, it's a PIN.  PIN stands for Personal Identification Number so adding the word "number" to the end just makes it sound as if you've a stammer.

 

Yes it's similar to people saying The Hoi Polloi.

 

WTF?

 

Hoi polloi (Greek: οι πολλοι), an expression meaning "the many" in Ancient Greek, is used in English to denote "the masses" or "the people," usually in a derogatory sense. For example, "I've secured a private box for the play so we don't have to watch the show with the hoi polloi." The phrase originated in English in the early 1800's, a time when it was considered necesary to know Greek and Latin in order to appear well educated.

 

Summat to to with corporate boxes.

Being pedantic (yes, I'm in one of those moods today), it's not a PIN number, it's a PIN.  PIN stands for Personal Identification Number so adding the word "number" to the end just makes it sound as if you've a stammer.

 

Yes it's similar to people saying The Hoi Polloi.

 

WTF?

 

Hoi polloi (Greek: οι πολλοι), an expression meaning "the many" in Ancient Greek, is used in English to denote "the masses" or "the people," usually in a derogatory sense. For example, "I've secured a private box for the play so we don't have to watch the show with the hoi polloi." The phrase originated in English in the early 1800's, a time when it was considered necesary to know Greek and Latin in order to appear well educated.

 

Summat to to with corporate boxes.

 

We are actually talking about tautology here. As you say Hoi Polloi is Greek for the people so the Hoi Polloi is the the people.

 

You come on here for football chat and end up with lessons in English Grammar and Greek.

Being pedantic (yes, I'm in one of those moods today), it's not a PIN number, it's a PIN.  PIN stands for Personal Identification Number so adding the word "number" to the end just makes it sound as if you've a stammer.

 

Yes it's similar to people saying The Hoi Polloi.

 

WTF?

 

Hoi polloi (Greek: οι πολλοι), an expression meaning "the many" in Ancient Greek, is used in English to denote "the masses" or "the people," usually in a derogatory sense. For example, "I've secured a private box for the play so we don't have to watch the show with the hoi polloi." The phrase originated in English in the early 1800's, a time when it was considered necesary to know Greek and Latin in order to appear well educated.

 

Summat to to with corporate boxes.

 

We are actually talking about tautology here. As you say Hoi Polloi is Greek for the people so the Hoi Polloi is the the people.

 

You come on here for football chat and end up with lessons in English Grammar and Greek.

 

In logic, a tautology is a statement that is true by its own definition. All true statements of logic are tautologies. Outside logic, it sometimes means a useless tautology, that is, one that is uninformative (or in colloquial terms, stating the obvious). This definition is imprecise, as all statements are informative in some context.

 

I'm off to work now to do something far less challenging

Being pedantic (yes, I'm in one of those moods today), it's not a PIN number, it's a PIN.  PIN stands for Personal Identification Number so adding the word "number" to the end just makes it sound as if you've a stammer.

 

Yes it's similar to people saying The Hoi Polloi.

 

WTF?

 

Hoi polloi (Greek: οι πολλοι), an expression meaning "the many" in Ancient Greek, is used in English to denote "the masses" or "the people," usually in a derogatory sense. For example, "I've secured a private box for the play so we don't have to watch the show with the hoi polloi." The phrase originated in English in the early 1800's, a time when it was considered necesary to know Greek and Latin in order to appear well educated.

 

Summat to to with corporate boxes.

 

We are actually talking about tautology here. As you say Hoi Polloi is Greek for the people so the Hoi Polloi is the the people.

 

You come on here for football chat and end up with lessons in English Grammar and Greek.

 

In logic, a tautology is a statement that is true by its own definition. All true statements of logic are tautologies. Outside logic, it sometimes means a useless tautology, that is, one that is uninformative (or in colloquial terms, stating the obvious). This definition is imprecise, as all statements are informative in some context.

 

I'm off to work now to do something far less challenging

 

I don't think you went far enough with your definition. In Logic a tautology is a statement that is true by its own definition but has not been arrived at by logical deduction eg A triangle has three sides. Outside of logic it means useless repetition eg use of the in the Hoi Polloi.

So to clarify....the Portugese ATM machines sometimes don't work with UK PIN numbers?

Have withdrawn money from ATM's all over the world using my PIN and bank Debit card.

 

I strongly suspect in Portugal we'll be fine

So to clarify....the Portugese ATM machines sometimes don't work with UK PIN numbers?

 

Not meaning to be pedantic............it's not a PIN number, it's a PIN. PIN stands for Personal Identification Number so adding the word "number" to the end just makes it sound as if you've a stammer.

So to clarify....the Portugese ATM machines sometimes don't work with UK PIN numbers?

 

 

Hey, Jarstar, stand in the corner until we can all see you're listening.

asked our hotel, which is approx 1km from the ground not far from the station, and theres 3 banks in spitting distance

asked our hotel, which is approx 1km from the ground not far from the station, and theres 3 banks in spitting distance

 

so dioufs at your hotel then??

So to clarify....the Portugese ATM machines sometimes don't work with UK PIN numbers?

 

 

Hey, Jarstar, stand in the corner until we can all see you're listening.

That really made me laugh, probably because I haven't heard it since primary school

I'm off to work now to do something far less challenging

According to your profile that would be down the 'Cop Shop' #-o

Being pedantic (yes, I'm in one of those moods today), it's not a PIN number, it's a PIN.  PIN stands for Personal Identification Number so adding the word "number" to the end just makes it sound as if you've a stammer.

 

Yes it's similar to people saying The Hoi Polloi.

 

WTF?

 

Hoi polloi (Greek: οι πολλοι), an expression meaning "the many" in Ancient Greek, is used in English to denote "the masses" or "the people," usually in a derogatory sense. For example, "I've secured a private box for the play so we don't have to watch the show with the hoi polloi." The phrase originated in English in the early 1800's, a time when it was considered necesary to know Greek and Latin in order to appear well educated.

 

Summat to to with corporate boxes.

 

We are actually talking about tautology here. As you say Hoi Polloi is Greek for the people so the Hoi Polloi is the the people.

 

You come on here for football chat and end up with lessons in English Grammar and Greek.

 

It is also a pleonasm.

On the subject of odd words, how about

Tenesmus, defined as "A painfully urgent but ineffectual attempt to urinate or defecate.

[Medieval Latin tēnesmus, variant of Latin tēnesmos, from Greek teinesmos, from teinein, to strain, stretch.]"

Ol?? (another word to add to the useful vocabury when visiting Portugal).

 

There are more than three ATMs in a 1 Km radius from the ground where the match will take place; there's on just across the road (50 meters).

 

Debit cards are widely accepted if they are issued by any international network, like Visa, MasterCard, EuroCard, and other. Some bank cards issued in England (those that you can only use in the branches of the issuing bank) are useless outside Britain.

 

I don't remember what kind of PINS there were for debit cards when I was in the UK; however, if your card belongs to one of the networks mentioned above, then you will to enter the same old PIN.

 

Looking forward to see you all over here. Til then!

If you have CIRRUS on your bank card you will be able to use it in the ATMs in Portugal. FACT.

If you have CIRRUS on your bank card you will be able to use it in the ATMs in Portugal.  FACT.

 

If, however, you have CUMULO NIMBUS on it, it means it's going to rain.

I don't think I had a problem in Lisbon last year. Anyway, mine worked in Bulgaria and Istanbul so I don't envisage a problem.

I'm off to work now to do something far less challenging

According to your profile that would be down the 'Cop Shop' #-o

 

8-[ :shock: :-$

It seemed to be a Nat West issue, as the only other people I met who had the same problem were also Nat West Account holders, and as they charge 4% on withdrawals, it was probably cheaper on my VISA card anyway.