LieselLouis Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 Anyone agree? I feel he is only in the team these days because he is captain. Personally i would love to see Sturridge and Elmander up front where we can play proper football with a bit of pace. So next season it will be a 34/35 year old Kevin Davies and 35 year old Robbie Blake up front. Can`t wait for that. Does not exactly inspire you to buy a new season ticket does it.
Garrp Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 Stat attack - Kevin Davies has created more chances from open play (85) than any other player in the league. Same time next week aswell?
RUREADY2ROLL Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 Anyone agree? I feel he is only in the team these days because he is captain. Personally i would love to see Sturridge and Elmander up front where we can play proper football with a bit of pace. So next season it will be a 34/35 year old Kevin Davies and 35 year old Robbie Blake up front. Can`t wait for that. Does not exactly inspire you to buy a new season ticket does it. God you are boring SKD is still effective but he is coming to the end of his days. Next season will see new players arriving with Elmo and Sturridge leaving
athywhite1958 Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 Anyone agree? I feel he is only in the team these days because he is captain. Personally i would love to see Sturridge and Elmander up front where we can play proper football with a bit of pace. So next season it will be a 34/35 year old Kevin Davies and 35 year old Robbie Blake up front. Can`t wait for that. Does not exactly inspire you to buy a new season ticket does it. Don't go then, simple. innit
TheReebokBear Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 I actually agree. Davies has offered very little in the second half of the season and we might as well play Klasnic and see what happens. I don't see what harm it can do and we may find that Klas is up to 90 minutes after all. If not, bring Davies off the bench. Whilst Klas does well as an impact player, that's no reason to keep playing Davies when he's been below-par.
SHAT Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 And the Pointless negative thread of the week award goes to..........
Garrp Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 Obviously this was made up Stat attack - Kevin Davies has created more chances from open play (85) than any other player in the league. Bring back 606 and get rid of these simpletons
Carlos Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 Me, I'd drop the cloggers who's only ball is giving it away or hoofing it up to Big Kev.
RUREADY2ROLL Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 Me, I'd drop the cloggers who's only ball is giving it away or hoofing it up to Big Kev. And they are? Zat Knight for me is one of the biggest pulprits
TheReebokBear Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 Not made up, just doesn't mean much without clarifying what the stat actually means. My understanding is that the stat counts a goal scoring chance as receiving the ball in the 18 yard box. In which case, fine, Davies gets a lot of flick ons to players in the box. But most of his assists (6 in the league) were earlier on in the season and I don't see the harm in giving Klasnic a chance in the two remaining games to see if he can freshen things up. Another stat is that Davies has one shot on target every 2 games, which is less impressive. You can trade stats all day, but the ones that matter are goals and assists. Davies has few of each lately and I don't see why he should be undroppable if he's not producing; just like Elmander, Petrov or anyone else.
Butterfly Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 Thought he won quite a lot today... But did nothing with it
Carlos Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 And they are? Robinson, Steinsson, Knight, Muamba, Elmander, Taylor and Lee off the top of my head.
TheReebokBear Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 Zat Knight for me is one of the biggest pulprits We call them "the defence". It's an ironic thing, because most of their play is indefensible.
Didledee Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 (edited) K.Davies lost the ball a few times, I remember the one straight after Gardner lost it and Sunderland broke, but I thought he had an alreet game. Showed moments of real class like that quality pass for Taylor who should have scored and that perfect pass for Robinson's run which Sturridge or Lee should have scored. Edited May 7, 2011 by Didledee
Casino Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 hes fcuking finished and talking of indefensible? coyle shunting sturridge out to the right wing and the non selection of wheater is more baffling by the week
Garrp Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 Not made up, just doesn't mean much without clarifying what the stat actually means. My understanding is that the stat counts a goal scoring chance as receiving the ball in the 18 yard box. In which case, fine, Davies gets a lot of flick ons to players in the box. But most of his assists (6 in the league) were earlier on in the season and I don't see the harm in giving Klasnic a chance in the two remaining games to see if he can freshen things up. Another stat is that Davies has one shot on target every 2 games, which is less impressive. You can trade stats all day, but the ones that matter are goals and assists. Davies has few of each lately and I don't see why he should be undroppable if he's not producing; just like Elmander, Petrov or anyone else. Just remind me which seasons Davies has been a prolific goalscorer
Casino Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 true enough garpo, but has he ever had a worse season than this 4 or 5 goals?
TheReebokBear Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 (edited) Just remind me which seasons Davies has been a prolific goalscorer More prolific than this season? Almost all, as it happens. The majority of his goals this season have been pens (I think that's right, 4 of his 7?). I think this season is his lowest tally of goals from open-play in the league since he arrived. I'm not sure a player who doesn't score many scoring even fewer is a good place to start from. That's hardly the point though. Unless you are saying that you think Davies' all-round play has remained at a consistent standard. It hasn't. He started the season well but has dropped off (by his own admission) and I fail to see why he should be the only player in the 11 who simply must not be dropped under any circumstances. Davies has had good games and bad games, but he's had more bad than good lately and I'd simply quite like to see Klasnic given a couple of games to see if he can stand the pace for next season. Clearly I'm off my head. Edited May 7, 2011 by TheReebokBear
Boothy Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 But did nothing with it That isn't his fault though is it? What do you want him to do, win every header vs two opposition and land it at his feet? I think he's been shite since the turn off the year, but to he's had far worse days than today. Just think its s bit crass singling him out when he wasn't that bad. That opta stat is a load of shite without context!
TheReebokBear Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 That isn't his fault though is it? Not today, certainly. He was only okay, but he wasn't bad at all. Set up some decent attacks.
Garrp Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 true enough garpo, but has he ever had a worse season than this 4 or 5 goals? sure, i agree its his worst season, but he was playing well the first few months of the season. I'm not saying hes undroppable but everyone hits a bad run of form and even at his worst were better with him than without it. i wouldn't mind him saving the charity work for when hes retired though.
Garrp Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 More prolific than this season? Almost all, as it happens. The majority of his goals this season have been pens (I think that's right, 4 of his 7?). I think this season is his lowest tally of goals from open-play in the league since he arrived. I'm not sure a player who doesn't score many scoring even fewer is a good place to start from. That's hardly the point though. Unless you are saying that you think Davies' all-round play has remained at a consistent standard. It hasn't. He started the season well but has dropped off (by his own admission) and I fail to see why he should be the only player in the 11 who simply must not be dropped under any circumstances. Davies has had good games and bad games, but he's had more bad than good lately and I'd simply quite like to see Klasnic given a couple of games to see if he can stand the pace for next season. Clearly I'm off my head. Almost all, really? 2003?04 38 9 2004?05 35 8 2005?06 37 7 2006?07 30 8 2007?08 32 3 2008?09 38 12 2009?10 37 7 2010?11 31 7
TheReebokBear Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 Almost all, really? Yes, because you'll notice that I specifically pointed out the number of penalties this time round. It's almost as if I mentioned them for a reason.
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