They're still at it! Asking the FA for leeway to sell players outside of the transfer window. (BBC Sport - Football)

 

IMO, they shouldn't bend the rules for one club over the rest, but I find myself in two minds about PFC. On the one hand, i'd like them to reap what the sow and receive that winding-up order, but on the other, they're a club steeped in history and I think how it would feel if the Wanderer's approached a financial mess. Bet the Southern fucker's wouldn't give to shites. Fuck 'em, the sooner they're out of the EPL the better!

from F365

 

Let's All Have A Hug, Happy Story Of The Day

'Portsmouth's players have clubbed together to pay the wages of vital backroom staff who faced losing their jobs. Skipper Hermann Hreidarsson and keeper David James decided to set up a fighting fund to save some of the 85 staff axed by administrators at the bankrupt Premier League club. The players are reported to have chipped in ?1,500 each to keep staff they say have helped them to the FA Cup semi-finals' - The Sun.

 

Stop That Hug And Start Being Sad Again Story Of The Day

'David James offered to pay the wages of TWO training ground staff made redundant from Portsmouth - but was turned down by the crisis club's administrator' - The Daily Mirror.

9 points deducted and in administration. Confirmed on SSN

Edited March 17, 201016 yr by superjohnmcginlay

This is exactly how it works in non-league football. Unfortunately in non-league football, there are often not enough clubs fulfilling ground grading criteria to achieve promotion. The Conference is now one club short following Chester's expulsion,the Conference North looks set to lose Farsley Celtic, and the Unibond Premier has already lost Gateshead and King's Lynn this season with Ashton United teetering on the brink (thanks to a former BWFC player). So far, the Unibond First Division North and South are untouched, as is the North West Counties Premier Division. However the North West Counties First Division is currently operating with only 17 clubs. All this affecting leagues covering our own region. The Northern League looks set to lose Billingham Town, now that Hartlepool United (Jeff Stelling's club) have served a winding-up petition on the club in a dispute over their ground. Their are many many more, so the FA League's Committee is going to have a major headache this Summer!

 

Incidentally, Chester City have now been wound-up by the High Court.

 

Who was that player? and why is it his fault?

9 points deducted and in administration. Confirmed on SSN

 

 

HMRC effectively approved the Administration yesterday, so the sit-on-the-fence pen pushers at Football HQ can now make their decision to deduct the points.

Who was that player? and why is it his fault?

 

 

Presume that it refers to this: Ashton

 

Which does sound pretty horrific to be fair.

i'm sure it does

 

lets allow deanewhite to explain why that makes it it marcus hallows fault....

i'm sure it does

 

lets allow deanewhite to explain why that makes it it marcus hallows fault....

 

Lets hope it's shorter than a Dostoevsky novel for a change.

Marcus Hallows, what a bastard, having his playing career ended prematurely and then seeking compensation. Even though it's a mon's game and a bit of a late tackle is part and parcel of the game.

 

I have a mate at work, Steve Morris, who was horrifically burned (50%) in a house fire in Bolton 18 months ago. Maybe, when he puts his compensation claim in, Deane White can stand outside the Fire Service HQ in protest because it's a man's job and Steve should expect that, when he goes into a burning building, he should know the dangers and therefore is not deserving of compensation of any kind!

Marcus Hallows, what a bastard, having his playing career ended prematurely and then seeking compensation. Even though it's a mon's game and a bit of a late tackle is part and parcel of the game.

 

Can you classify playing at that level as a career?

Marcus Hallows, what a bastard, having his playing career ended prematurely and then seeking compensation. Even though it's a mon's game and a bit of a late tackle is part and parcel of the game.

 

I have a mate at work, Steve Morris, who was horrifically burned (50%) in a house fire in Bolton 18 months ago. Maybe, when he puts his compensation claim in, Deane White can stand outside the Fire Service HQ in protest because it's a man's job and Steve should expect that, when he goes into a burning building, he should know the dangers and therefore is not deserving of compensation of any kind!

 

Most people claim compensation agaist their employers- not the opposition team. If Ashton United's appeal against the judgement does not succeed, football as a contact sport could well be finished. This is a landmark case that could open the floodgates to a massive series of such claims that will force grass roots football into oblivion. It was also made clear during the case that the player who caused the injury was also liable, and if Ashton United went under, he would be asked to cough up. Most clubs at Ashton United's level and below struggle to survive as it is. Now that this need for additional insurance is going to come in, it will push many of our clubs into serious financial difficulty. Sunday league football would effectively be killed off. Players at that level have to pay to play as it is- an additional insurance premium on top would make the cost of playing football prohibitive. The FA is already trying to force grass roots clubs to increase their public liability insurance cover from ?1mn to ?5mn next season. Such insurance does not cover incidents such as the one involving Marcus Hallows.

 

Of course Marcus Hallows has every right to be compensated for his loss of earnings, but football has been played professionally in this country for over 120 years. Not once in all of that time has a club faced extinction as a result of a compensation claim made by a player over a perfectly legitimate tackle (but for the injury). In this particular instance, the referee saw absolutely nothing wrong with the challenge and Hallows' injuries were the result of a freak accident. Hallow's case was helped by Gary Mabbutt stating that football was not a contact sport. To my mind, that was a blatant lie, but will become true if this judgement is allowed to stand. If Marcus Hallows was that concerned about his football income, why didn't he insure himself and claim off that? Such insurance is relatively cheap, as it only concerns risk to one individual, compared to the individual's potential risk to others. A player's career can only be ended once, whereas a player could potentially end more than one player's career in one match- one tackle, theoretically. This is why insuring your own car TPFT is often not much more expensive than Third Party Only. It is the risk you pose to others that is the expensive part.

 

Where will all of this end? Are supporters going to sue clubs if they get hit by a ball hoofed out of play? Are those who gamble on football going to start suing referees for decisions that cost them money? This no-win, no-fee litigious culture is now starting to have an effect on the game we love. A line must be drawn before we lose the game for good.

Lets hope it's shorter than a Dostoevsky novel for a change.

 

almost.

Most people claim compensation agaist their employers- not the opposition team. If Ashton United's appeal against the judgement does not succeed, football as a contact sport could well be finished. This is a landmark case that could open the floodgates to a massive series of such claims that will force grass roots football into oblivion. It was also made clear during the case that the player who caused the injury was also liable, and if Ashton United went under, he would be asked to cough up. Most clubs at Ashton United's level and below struggle to survive as it is. Now that this need for additional insurance is going to come in, it will push many of our clubs into serious financial difficulty. Sunday league football would effectively be killed off. Players at that level have to pay to play as it is- an additional insurance premium on top would make the cost of playing football prohibitive. The FA is already trying to force grass roots clubs to increase their public liability insurance cover from ?1mn to ?5mn next season. Such insurance does not cover incidents such as the one involving Marcus Hallows.

 

Of course Marcus Hallows has every right to be compensated for his loss of earnings, but football has been played professionally in this country for over 120 years. Not once in all of that time has a club faced extinction as a result of a compensation claim made by a player over a perfectly legitimate tackle (but for the injury). In this particular instance, the referee saw absolutely nothing wrong with the challenge and Hallows' injuries were the result of a freak accident. Hallow's case was helped by Gary Mabbutt stating that football was not a contact sport. To my mind, that was a blatant lie, but will become true if this judgement is allowed to stand. If Marcus Hallows was that concerned about his football income, why didn't he insure himself and claim off that? Such insurance is relatively cheap, as it only concerns risk to one individual, compared to the individual's potential risk to others. A player's career can only be ended once, whereas a player could potentially end more than one player's career in one match- one tackle, theoretically. This is why insuring your own car TPFT is often not much more expensive than Third Party Only. It is the risk you pose to others that is the expensive part.

 

Where will all of this end? Are supporters going to sue clubs if they get hit by a ball hoofed out of play? Are those who gamble on football going to start suing referees for decisions that cost them money? This no-win, no-fee litigious culture is now starting to have an effect on the game we love. A line must be drawn before we lose the game for good.

 

Isn't Dean Ashton Suing SWP for his iunjury?

Most people claim compensation agaist their employers- not the opposition team. If Ashton United's appeal against the judgement does not succeed, football as a contact sport could well be finished. This is a landmark case that could open the floodgates to a massive series of such claims that will force grass roots football into oblivion. It was also made clear during the case that the player who caused the injury was also liable, and if Ashton United went under, he would be asked to cough up. Most clubs at Ashton United's level and below struggle to survive as it is. Now that this need for additional insurance is going to come in, it will push many of our clubs into serious financial difficulty. Sunday league football would effectively be killed off. Players at that level have to pay to play as it is- an additional insurance premium on top would make the cost of playing football prohibitive. The FA is already trying to force grass roots clubs to increase their public liability insurance cover from ?1mn to ?5mn next season. Such insurance does not cover incidents such as the one involving Marcus Hallows.

 

Of course Marcus Hallows has every right to be compensated for his loss of earnings, but football has been played professionally in this country for over 120 years. Not once in all of that time has a club faced extinction as a result of a compensation claim made by a player over a perfectly legitimate tackle (but for the injury). In this particular instance, the referee saw absolutely nothing wrong with the challenge and Hallows' injuries were the result of a freak accident. Hallow's case was helped by Gary Mabbutt stating that football was not a contact sport. To my mind, that was a blatant lie, but will become true if this judgement is allowed to stand. If Marcus Hallows was that concerned about his football income, why didn't he insure himself and claim off that? Such insurance is relatively cheap, as it only concerns risk to one individual, compared to the individual's potential risk to others. A player's career can only be ended once, whereas a player could potentially end more than one player's career in one match- one tackle, theoretically. This is why insuring your own car TPFT is often not much more expensive than Third Party Only. It is the risk you pose to others that is the expensive part.

 

Where will all of this end? Are supporters going to sue clubs if they get hit by a ball hoofed out of play? Are those who gamble on football going to start suing referees for decisions that cost them money? This no-win, no-fee litigious culture is now starting to have an effect on the game we love. A line must be drawn before we lose the game for good.

 

Well summed up.

I assume Hallows' own responsibility (re his own insurance cover) has been taken into account ?

Anyway, as a regular non-league football watcher when I can't watch the Whites, I'm worried.

Isn't Dean Ashton Suing SWP for his iunjury?

 

Indeed he is, however I would imagine that SWP is adequately covered against such things. If not, It is not as if SWP is going to become bankrupt as a result of Dean Ashton's action. I'm sure that SWP and DA will settle out of court anyway- something Ashton United couldn't afford to do, especially given that they really believed that they were not legally liable for the injury.

Well summed up.

I assume Hallows' own responsibility (re his own insurance cover) has been taken into account ?

Anyway, as a regular non-league football watcher when I can't watch the Whites, I'm worried.

 

His own lack of insurance was not the issue placed before the court. He has no legal obligation to have himself covered against injuries. However, had he been covered by such a policy (undoubtedly much cheaper than a third party liability policy), there would have been no need whatsoever for this case to have ever come before the courts. Insurance companies claim off one another and sometimes fight that out in the courts, but rarely (if ever) seek compensation from the individual or company at fault. The premium is guaged perfectly to reflect the risk and costs of claims- as well as to provide some profit to the insurer. Insurers will therefore absorb the cost of any claim, unless they can claim against another policy. Going back to car insurance, the insurers don't claim the money off uninsured drivers (any fines imposed are criminal punishment and not compensation), they merely charge the claimant an excess (which the claimant could then claim back from the third party in the small claims court) and adjust the cost of premiums accordingly. There is no need for anyone to sue anyone else.