Matt Lofthouse Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 Matt, It did not add up to ?7.2 million, but then what about the 5% increased attendance, the increases in corporate, increase in merchandise sales and the TV money etc.......... BWFC have just released the financial info for last year, could it be the team suffered to improve the balance sheet, or am I a sceptic? Improved balance sheets usually relate to higher bonuses for the top management. mmmmmmmmm It appears there is nothing worth having in the EPL transfer market below ?5 mil, None of our incomers were near that. Garside out. But if we don?t have any money we don?t have any money. Should we just plough on regardless and go another 90 million in debt? OC had to shuffle the squad with the player sales mentioned above and bring in the free transfers of Pratley, Reo Coker and loans of Boyata, Tuncay and Kakuta. Not bad going really. The major factor was not getting the money our board thought we would get for Cahill. Whether or not that money would of gone straight back into the squad I suppose we will find out in January when we sell for 5-7m.
frank_spencer Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 Frank and his bloody facts! Sorry I should know better by now.
frank_spencer Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 But if we don?t have any money we don?t have any money. Should we just plough on regardless and go another 90 million in debt? OC had to shuffle the squad with the player sales mentioned above and bring in the free transfers of Pratley, Reo Coker and loans of Boyata, Tuncay and Kakuta. Not bad going really. The major factor was not getting the money our board thought we would get for Cahill. Whether or not that money would of gone straight back into the squad I suppose we will find out in January when we sell for 5-7m. Once Eddie takes him 5m back and he and villa get their cuts if any profit there won't be much left if he goes for those prices
BURNDEN BILLY Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 We sold Al-Habsi for 4m Taylor for 2.2m And ward for 1m Giving a total of 7.2m We bought N'Gog for 4m Eagles and Mears for a joint 2.75 Which makes 6.75m Giving 450k to cover the loan fees and signing in fees of NRC, Pratley, Tuncay, Kakuta and Boyata Forgot about the signing on eliment for the other players but it still underlines what I said. You made no mention of the other points?
Matt Lofthouse Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 Once Eddie takes him 5m back and he and villa get their cuts if any profit there won't be much left if he goes for those prices I think I probably over cooked it at 5m, considering he can walk for nothing 6 months later. Grim times indeed.
frank_spencer Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 Forgot about the signing on eliment for the other players but it still underlines what I said. You made no mention of the other points? ?98,000,000 of debt covers your other points.
Casino Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 loyalty bonuses, new contracts for existing players lets face it, theres no cash pit being built up
Globetrotter Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 I can't understand how people think that somebody at the club 'fucked up big time' by not selling Cahill in the summer. It was stated by many on here at the time that our efforts to sell him were starting to look looked desperate. We can't have it both ways. The simple fact is that all the big boys knew about his contract status, they knew we wanted to sell and they knew he was likely that he would want to leave. Yet, we only got one bid - that was way below our valuation. Would we have been saying that 'somebody at the club did a great job' if we sold him for 6 mil or whatever it was? Fact is, he was available and nobody matched the club's valuation. In my book that is not fucking it up.
DazBob Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 Selling Matt Taylor is beginning to look more and more like a bad decision.
Matt Lofthouse Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 I can't understand how people think that somebody at the club 'fucked up big time' by not selling Cahill in the summer. It was stated by many on here at the time that our efforts to sell him were starting to look looked desperate. We can't have it both ways. The simple fact is that all the big boys knew about his contract status, they knew we wanted to sell and they knew he was likely that he would want to leave. Yet, we only got one bid - that was way below our valuation. Would we have been saying that 'somebody at the club did a great job' if we sold him for 6 mil or whatever it was? Fact is, he was available and nobody matched the club's valuation. In my book that is not fucking it up. Who?s said we fucked up by not selling him? However selling him for the prices we were prostituting him out for, would of helped our squad massively, but at those prices no one was biting and rightly so. Either way you look at it a club like ours just can?t afford to lose a top player every year for nothing. Elmander last Year, Cahill this year, Chungy or Holden the next.....
tarian1979 Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 I can't understand how people think that somebody at the club 'fucked up big time' by not selling Cahill in the summer. It was stated by many on here at the time that our efforts to sell him were starting to look looked desperate. We can't have it both ways. The simple fact is that all the big boys knew about his contract status, they knew we wanted to sell and they knew he was likely that he would want to leave. Yet, we only got one bid - that was way below our valuation. Would we have been saying that 'somebody at the club did a great job' if we sold him for 6 mil or whatever it was? Fact is, he was available and nobody matched the club's valuation. In my book that is not fucking it up. Well we have to totally bite the bullet and accpet him walking for free in june, cant sell him for 4-5m in Janaury (cant see anyone paying much more) right in middle of a relegation battle.
Globetrotter Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 Who?s said we fucked up by not selling him? However selling him for the prices we were prostituting him out for, would of helped our squad massively, but at those prices no one was biting and rightly so. Either way you look at it a club like ours just can?t afford to lose a top player every year for nothing. Elmander last Year, Cahill this year, Chungy or Holden the next..... SJM for one, earlier in this thread. cant be arsed re-checking but sure there are others ...
DazBob Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 Well we have to totally bite the bullet and accpet him walking for free in june, cant sell him for 4-5m in Janaury (cant see anyone paying much more) right in middle of a relegation battle. Are we actually in a battle? I thought to be in a battle you had to do a bit of fighting. I've not seen much in the way of fighting so far.
tarian1979 Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 Are we actually in a battle? I thought to be in a battle you had to do a bit of fighting. I've not seen much in the way of fighting so far. Well thats a fair point
Matt Lofthouse Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 SJM for one, earlier in this thread. cant be arsed re-checking but sure there are others ... Yep sorry mate missed that.
Zico Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 Selling Matt Taylor is beginning to look more and more like a bad decision. he would still be playing alongside the other 3 in midfield though
no balls Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 Do we think Callum was born in 1995? He should've been around when we were proper shit.
Zico Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 I can't understand how people think that somebody at the club 'fucked up big time' by not selling Cahill in the summer. It was stated by many on here at the time that our efforts to sell him were starting to look looked desperate. We can't have it both ways. The simple fact is that all the big boys knew about his contract status, they knew we wanted to sell and they knew he was likely that he would want to leave. Yet, we only got one bid - that was way below our valuation. Would we have been saying that 'somebody at the club did a great job' if we sold him for 6 mil or whatever it was? Fact is, he was available and nobody matched the club's valuation. In my book that is not fucking it up. correct - had we been in this situation and had sold him, then we'd have fucked up there as well - he'll go in Jan now and we'll prob get ?5m for him - then we'll have fucked up by not getting him to sign a new contract, which many thought could/would/should have happened when we didn't sell him in the summer
Zico Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 We sold Al-Habsi for 4m Taylor for 2.2m And ward for 1m Giving a total of 7.2m We bought N'Gog for 4m Eagles and Mears for a joint 2.75 Which makes 6.75m Giving 450k to cover the loan fees and signing in fees of NRC, Pratley, Tuncay, Kakuta and Boyata conservative estimates there as the reality there is that it would prob cost a lot more than 450k to sign 2 frees and 3 loan players - plus we had the 2.5M bid in for SWP had he chosen to join - the point remains the same though - he got his money back, had we sold Cahill, he may have got more
Garrp Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 Callum Clarke Drummer in Soul Men, Keyboards and Bass in The Jackleads. Looks about 12. Can someone let me know when are where Soul Men or The Jackleads are playing? Im going to go down and spend the entire night hurling shit are the fucking cunt.
tarian1979 Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 Seeing as I'm on my lunch hour, I though I'd delve deeper: Ross McNaughton Graduate Surveyor. Grow up, son. Callum Clarke Drummer in Soul Men, Keyboards and Bass in The Jackleads. Looks about 12. Duncan Ayling Wants to know if Rooney's got an xbox or PS3, for some reason. Rory Kiernan Not sure he's a Bolton fan to be honest. HAHAHAH Named and shamed Personally i think twitter is a load of shit. Sad. What do people tweet about "Just gonna take a shit" "eating my lunch" "going the freehouse for a few jars" that type of shit? Who gives a toss what job bloggs is doing. Gash.
Matt Lofthouse Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 Can someone let me know when are where Soul Men or The Jackleads are playing? Im going to go down and spend the entire night hurling shit are the fucking cunt. Iamin, make that 2 of us.
DazBob Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 (edited) I tink it was Sean Lock who said words to the effect of people who "tweet" are people who cannot shut the fuck up ... even when they're sat there alone. Edited October 31, 2011 by DazBobParr
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