Love him or hate him the lads got some nuts, caught this lad a cracker here.

 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_BNP2y7ELus&feature=youtu.be

9 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Short memory eh? 

Thats doesn’t quite answer my question. 

27 minutes ago, Cheese said:

If someone attracts far right supporters and doesn't outrightly condemn their extreme beliefs, they are part of the far right movement. It's as simple as that. If you disagree, maybe you should ask yourself WHY the far right are attracted to the same person you support. 

 

We’ve been here before, many far right don’t like TR and condem him, he says he not far right so why do people continue to insist he is? 

What about an outfit like BWFC, we have far right fans, are we a far right club (if there’s such a thing).

 

4 minutes ago, royal white said:

Thats doesn’t quite answer my question. 

No - but it answered mine.....! 

2 minutes ago, kent_white said:

No - but it answered mine.....! 

Strange guy/girl

17 minutes ago, Widnes Two Hats said:

As far as I know, TR left the EDL as he wasn't happy with the far right that had joined, he has condemned the far right throughout his activity, not sure what more he can do. And the far right attached themselves as news and newpaper organisations have contantly described him as far right, what more can he do than say 'I hate the far right' which he has done constantly

He could address them directly and loudly to remove any doubt. Has he done this? If so, then I take it all back.

It's interesting that when I posted those photo's of Tommy fans performing Nazi salutes, with no comment, your immediate reaction was to defend the people in the photo.... Now suddenly, you're arguing that it's not Tommy's fault that he's followed by Nazi's - it's the media...

Not Tommy fans, it was an individual, and I'm as much as a Corbyn fan as I am a TR fan, would love to have a party that represended me but I dont, anyhow, just feel that TR is misrepresented

6 minutes ago, Widnes Two Hats said:

Not Tommy fans, it was an individual, and I'm as much as a Corbyn fan as I am a TR fan, would love to have a party that represended me but I dont, anyhow, just feel that TR is misrepresented

There are lots of photos of Tommy fans doing Nazi salutes. Not just one individual. If I supported something strongly enough to go on a march, and saw fellow supporters doing stuff like that, I'd be a bit concerned. 

So would I but it doesnt happen, 1 in 10000 doesnt represent his support, do you not get that people react to the zombies shouting 'Nazi scum off our streets' they are utter knobs, the vast majority ignore them but some halfwits pander up to them and do nazi salutes in response to them, 3 or 4 people out of 10,000 is not representitive

2 minutes ago, Cheese said:

There are lots of photos of Tommy fans doing Nazi salutes. Not just one individual. If I supported something strongly enough to go on a march, and saw fellow supporters doing stuff like that, I'd be a bit concerned. 

Tbh most I’ve seen who are doing it are doing in response to the anti fascists calling them nazis. 

Like a bit of a joke like.

 

6 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Tbh most I’ve seen who are doing it are doing in response to the anti fascists calling them nazis. 

Like a bit of a joke like.

 

According to Tommy supporters... some of whom travel to Poland to join in Far Right marches on the 100th Armistice Day, then boast about it.

Edited November 14, 20187 yr by Cheese

4 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Tbh most I’ve seen who are doing it are doing in response to the anti fascists calling them nazis. 

Like a bit of a joke like.

 

I bet the long winter nights simply fly by in their houses.

21 minutes ago, Cheese said:

According to Tommy supporters... some of whom travel to Poland to join in Far Right marches on the 100 Armistice Day, then boast about it.

Last question, was there a massive probem with people marching for nationalism in Poland or is that far right?

9 minutes ago, Widnes Two Hats said:

Last question, was there a massive probem with people marching for nationalism in Poland or is that far right?

Your "last question" is 2 questions, and I don't understand either of them. 

Fine Cheese, still think you are intelligent

1 hour ago, royal white said:

 

What about an outfit like BWFC, we have far right fans, are we a far right club (if there’s such a thing).

 

You keep using this extremely poor analogy. How many Bolton fans have you seen performing Nazi salutes at the match? 

Just now, Cheese said:

You keep using this extremely poor analogy. How many Bolton fans have you seen performing Nazi salutes at the match? 

 

How’s it poor? Because it proves the club is not far right even though it has far right fans which kind of pisses on your “He has far right fans so he’s far right” theory

Not a lot but I’ve seen it. 

I’ve  also heard the term nigger, black cunt, paki, Jewish cunt etc is that not far right enough for you though? 

Suppose people at TR marches v people doing nazi sulutes would be the same would it not

 

Just now, royal white said:

 

How’s it poor? Because it proves the club is not far right even though it has far right fans which kind of pisses on your “He has far right fans so he’s far right” theory

Not a lot but I’ve seen it. 

I’ve  also heard the term nigger, black cunt, paki, Jewish cunt etc is that not far right enough for you though? 

By who, and how often? If you're as anti-Fascist/anti-Racist as you claim, surely you'd report that sort of behaviour? I haven't heard/seen anything like that in 30 years, so I suspect you might be talking bollocks. Unless any other regular attendees can back you up? 

Just now, Cheese said:

By who, and how often? If you're as anti-Fascist/anti-Racist as you claim, surely you'd report that sort of behaviour? I haven't heard/seen anything like that in 30 years, so I suspect you might be talking bollocks. Unless any other regular attendees can back you up? 

Thats a typical cheese comment if ever I’ve seen one, basically you’re saying it doesn’t happen because you haven’t seen/heard it! 

 Put it this way if I reported everything at stoke away I wouldnt have seen much of the game (wish I did thinking back) if you have never heard racist remark at a Bolton game then I need to know where you sit! Because if that’s your claim then it’s you who’s talking utter bollocks.

 

7 minutes ago, royal white said:

Thats a typical cheese comment if ever I’ve seen one, basically you’re saying it doesn’t happen because you haven’t seen/heard it! 

 Put it this way if I reported everything at stoke away I wouldnt have seen much of the game (wish I did thinking back) if you have never heard racist remark at a Bolton game then I need to know where you sit! Because if that’s your claim then it’s you who’s talking utter bollocks.

 

My older mate once shouted "Fuck off you black bastard!" by accident - he was referring to the colour of the refs kit - and everyone felt a bit uneasy for a few seconds. I can honestly say I've never heard the word "nigger" or "Jewish cunt" or seen a Nazi salute at a game. I've sat in North Lower since the Reebok opened (Manny Road at Burnden) barring a few seasons after my son was born. 

 

Again, what do you think/do when you hear comments like those at the match? 

8 minutes ago, Cheese said:

My older mate once shouted "Fuck off you black bastard!" by accident - he was referring to the colour of the refs kit - and everyone felt a bit uneasy for a few seconds. I can honestly say I've never heard the word "nigger" or "Jewish cunt" or seen a Nazi salute at a game. I've sat in North Lower since the Reebok opened (Manny Road at Burnden) barring a few seasons after my son was born. 

 

Again, what do you think/do when you hear comments like those at the match? 

I think they’re out of order and choose to ignore them. 

It happens, I remember a few seasons back one of the lads who I know was sitting near me (also in NSL) shouted out you silly coon, he was sat next to his mate who also happened to be black (and known by a few on here). 

 

Have you never heard fans calling McClean a fenian twat/cunt/bastard? 

If you don’t think it happens at Bolton then I’m sorry but you’re obviously quite deluded.

Edited November 14, 20187 yr by royal white

Just now, royal white said:

I think they’re out of order and choose to ignore them. 

It happens, I remember a few seasons back one of the lads who I know was sitting near me (also in NSL) shouted out you silly coon, he was sat next to his mate who also happened to be black (and known by a few on here). 

If you don’t think it happens at Bolton then I’m sorry but you’re obviously quite deluded.

I'm talking about your stupid analogy. Of course there are racists who support Bolton (although I've never witnessed any racist behaviour). But generally, they go to the match to watch football. Racists who go to Tommy gatherings go to express their beliefs. Do you really not see the difference? There aren't any photos of Bolton fans performing Nazi salutes at a match, or carrying racist banners about Muslims. They'd quite rightly get kicked out.

3 minutes ago, Cheese said:

I'm talking about your stupid analogy. Of course there are racists who support Bolton (although I've never witnessed any racist behaviour). But generally, they go to the match to watch football. Racists who go to Tommy gatherings go to express their beliefs. Do you really not see the difference? There aren't any photos of Bolton fans performing Nazi salutes at a match, or carrying racist banners about Muslims. They'd quite rightly get kicked out.

First you said I was talking bullocks and now you say there’s racists at the game. Make your mind up sweety what is it. Why do you think that if there’s racists at the game I wouldn’t have witnessed them? 

6 minutes ago, royal white said:

First you said I was talking bullocks and now you say there’s racists at the game. Make your mind up sweety what is it. Why do you think that if there’s racists at the game I wouldn’t have witnessed them? 

Keep making things up hun. I asked you a question about Nazi salutes at Bolton games. I don't believe you've ever seen one, and I suspect it would be widely reported if it ever occurred. 

Your analogy is pathetic, and the only things you've got to back it up is "I saw a Nazi salute at a Bolton game, and heard someone say the word Nigger".

At least you've finally admitted Nazi's are attracted to Tommy marches anyway. A normal person would condemn it and admit it's a problem, but your instinct is to defend it with weak football analogies.

Edited November 15, 20187 yr by Cheese

1 minute ago, Cheese said:

Keep making things up hun. I asked you a question about Nazi salutes at Bolton games. I don't believe you've ever seen one, and I suspect it would be widely reported if it ever occurred. 

Your analogy is pathetic, and the only things you've got to back it up is "I saw a Nazi salute at a Bolton game, and heard someone say the word Nigger".

At least you've finally admitted Nazi's are attracted to Tommy marches anyway. 

Haha you’ve totally lost your way, so now you’re telling me what I have and haven’t seen, seriously you’re  unbelievable! 

Have you never heard McClean being called a fenian cunt? If not and if he’s ever to play at the our place again I will guarantee you that you will hear him be called that if you sit in a certain part of NSL.