Love him or hate him the lads got some nuts, caught this lad a cracker here.

 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_BNP2y7ELus&feature=youtu.be

6 minutes ago, Casino said:

I didn't need to get past the second line

Not a great start when his first figure is wrong

What figure have you got? 

As a percentage of the population of Rotherham?

2 minutes ago, Casino said:

As a percentage of the population of Rotherham?

Yes

9 minutes ago, Casino said:

And if you can't see a figure on the second line, it may well be bedtime

Second line on my device “quoted some figures”

18 minutes ago, royal white said:

Yes

Having read an online report

He's nearer than I thought...

I'd still say the lowest estimate would be 4 and practically it's nearer 8 as the Pakistani muslim population is concentrated in the town, not the borough, population just over 100k

So, I'll concede he wasn't far out, and that's the nererest you're getting to me saying I was nearly wrong

And however many are finally found guilty,I think we all agree it's way too many

But something like 1 in 4 under investigation, I think not

 

All hail sir steven of yaxley

23 hours ago, ZicoKelly said:

bad news for Bolty:

Boris Johnson's unused water cannon sold for scrap at £300k loss

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-46258584

 

Not bad news for me at all. A shame some scruffy fucking anarchists will miss out an aquatic pounding but hopefully the cops still have batons, tear gas and tasers to touch them up with.

As far as selling at such a a loss, blame the fucking sellers.

14 hours ago, kent_white said:

I don't necessarily think they should be brought along on marches either though. Unless they're a bit older and have expressed an interest in going off their own back. 

The guidance I'll be trying to give to my son is not to trust anybody who thinks they've got the definitive or an easy answer. Especially to the big questions like politics. People who think they're right about everything are usually the last people you should be listening to. 

 

This is why you are the most popular yoghourt knitter on here. Exposing kids to Socialist Worker indoctrination is just wrong. Purely anti racism no problem. We all teach our kids thus anyway don't we?

14 hours ago, Underpants said:

Last year I took a 3 & 6 year old (made the Bolton News) on a march through Leverhulme Park when the local Labour councillors planned on putting velodrome in the middle of the thing. It would have effected me personally and the surrounding area. To be fair there's little difference between what I did and someone dragging their kids along to a far right/left demo. If you are passionate enough about something then fair do's.

 Now you see, I'm far easier with that. I'd ask, how many political banners were being flown, eg anti government etc?

It was a proposal by the local authority, to which local residents chose to object to. A single issue event with a very local impact.

If loads of rabble rousers turned up spouting off that the Tories are islamophobic or Corbyn is an anti Semite then it becomes political.

I'd imagine that the organisers of the event would have been majorly pissed off if such folk turned out.

That's the clear difference for me.

31 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

 Now you see, I'm far easier with that. I'd ask, how many political banners were being flown, eg anti government etc?

It was a proposal by the local authority, to which local residents chose to object to. A single issue event with a very local impact.

If loads of rabble rousers turned up spouting off that the Tories are islamophobic or Corbyn is an anti Semite then it becomes political.

I'd imagine that the organisers of the event would have been majorly pissed off if such folk turned out.

That's the clear difference for me.

So you decide what "politics" it is ok to include your kids in? Your definitions are basically bogus.

Taking kids on an anti-racism march is odd in my view. However, if parents choose to do so I see little issue. Being against racism and islamophobia is not something ANYONE should have a problem with and teaching kids to be more inclusive and campaign to be so is also a good thing in many ways. 

It is important that young people are more aware of the wider world, how it impacts them and what they can do about it. They're going to have a huge task turning this country round, but I think they will do so. They are born into a world where they can see the problems and I think they will have a good go at fixing them. 

You really don't get it do you? Or continue to argue for the sake of it.

Creating things that haven't been said.

Then continue with a lecture that is irrelevant.

Where the fuck have I or anyone said anyone should have a problem with anti racism?

Why have you inserted politics into speech marks as if to redefine it, and make assumptions about what I will allow my kids to follow with regard to issues.

Why does a non political issue like the park protest become a political one- presumably so you can argue about it. Or can't you understand what is meant by a political protest?

Why do you continue to make assumptions that because of my objections to kids going on political marches I'm in some way condoning racism?

Frankly you're disappointingly incapable of reading a post and applying those so called trained negotiator skills.

Throughout threads you have to continually accuse folk of being stupid or thick or of having an interior moral compass.

I'm no longer prepared to engage in any future discourse with you on anything as it's pointless.

Crack on masturbating in the mirror.

m

Edited November 21, 20187 yr by Widnes Two Hats

8 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

 Now you see, I'm far easier with that. I'd ask, how many political banners were being flown, eg anti government etc?

It was a proposal by the local authority, to which local residents chose to object to. A single issue event with a very local impact.

If loads of rabble rousers turned up spouting off that the Tories are islamophobic or Corbyn is an anti Semite then it becomes political.

I'd imagine that the organisers of the event would have been majorly pissed off if such folk turned out.

That's the clear difference for me.

There may be a difference, but only a very slightly one. Just because mine was a local dispute it doesn't make it any less important than any demo going on in Trafalgar Square. We did have banners and we did have loudmouth gobshites. Mrs.Coleman from No15. All things are relative. No matter what the march is about you can't really vet or have an age limit on placard wavers.

Edited November 21, 20187 yr by Underpants

11 hours ago, bolty58 said:

 

Not bad news for me at all. A shame some scruffy fucking anarchists will miss out an aquatic pounding but hopefully the cops still have batons, tear gas and tasers to touch them up with.

As far as selling at such a loss, blame the fucking sellers.

You're right. They should have hung onto them while they continued to appreciate in value and sold them for a huge profit next year

3 hours ago, Widnes Two Hats said:

m

Exactly. About time someone talked some sense. 

15 hours ago, Underpants said:

There may be a difference, but only a very slightly one. Just because mine was a local dispute it doesn't make it any less important than any demo going on in Trafalgar Square. We did have banners and we did have loudmouth gobshites. Mrs.Coleman from No15. All things are relative. No matter what the march is about you can't really vet or have an age limit on placard wavers.

I didn't say yours was less important.

Re your final sentence, I agree, that's why I asked the question.

To put it another way, that anti racism march by definition, should transcend politics and therefore be free from any political banners, so that anyone from any political persuasion can feel easy about attending, Tory, labour, snp etc.

If that was all it was, then it wouldn't overly concerned me, though It still wouldn't be my thing.

However these marches are continually used by folk with other agendas to piggy back their own political message on the back of a non political one. 

I don't understand why they just don't have a monthly anti government march separately, and make their voices heard that way.

For that reason alone I raised the question.

 

8 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

I didn't say yours was less important.

Re your final sentence, I agree, that's why I asked the question.

To put it another way, that anti racism march by definition, should transcend politics and therefore be free from any political banners, so that anyone from any political persuasion can feel easy about attending, Tory, labour, snp etc.

If that was all it was, then it wouldn't overly concerned me, though It still wouldn't be my thing.

However these marches are continually used by folk with other agendas to piggy back their own political message on the back of a non political one. 

I don't understand why they just don't have a monthly anti government march separately, and make their voices heard that way.

For that reason alone I raised the question.

 

I was originally only commenting on the kids at demos aspect. I've inadvertently (my fault) been dragged in to the deeper political underbelly of this thread. This Tommy Robinson thread has turned in to a drunken pub brawl. Im better off viewing it from across the road rather than getting involved more. K2K

On 21/11/2018 at 16:50, Tonge moor green jacket said:

You really don't get it do you? Or continue to argue for the sake of it.

Creating things that haven't been said.

Then continue with a lecture that is irrelevant.

Where the fuck have I or anyone said anyone should have a problem with anti racism?

Why have you inserted politics into speech marks as if to redefine it, and make assumptions about what I will allow my kids to follow with regard to issues.

Why does a non political issue like the park protest become a political one- presumably so you can argue about it. Or can't you understand what is meant by a political protest?

Why do you continue to make assumptions that because of my objections to kids going on political marches I'm in some way condoning racism?

Frankly you're disappointingly incapable of reading a post and applying those so called trained negotiator skills.

Throughout threads you have to continually accuse folk of being stupid or thick or of having an interior moral compass.

I'm no longer prepared to engage in any future discourse with you on anything as it's pointless.

Crack on masturbating in the mirror.

But you are also inferring political bias on what you have said - I’m ok with this/but not ok with that.

Now, that’s totally fair, but for you to hold a moral high ground as you have, isn’t.

Again you’ve said - I’m not anti anti racism. So, people right said well, it’s an anti racism march, what’s the problem. And, again quite rightly you said I don’t like political ideologies hiding behind just causes.

Both of which are valid views, but because this is social media it’s become - take kids on a march, don’t take kids on a march...are you calling me a racist?!?!

i think you jumped in two footed with your original comment, people called you out, you tried to explain and it wasn’t heard.

Personally, I don’t think you’re racist at all, but you might want to see a view from another prism now and again.

Wont be long now before he's standing

https://www.politicalite.com/ukip/breaking-news-gerard-batten-appoints-tommy-special-personal-advisor/?fbclid=IwAR1uDWlQTgNmrelitajTxSBUx8_l_lxTdpv8XARfhkJtNt3QSe6v01QjANY

25 minutes ago, Widnes Two Hats said:

Wont be long now before he's standing

https://www.politicalite.com/ukip/breaking-news-gerard-batten-appoints-tommy-special-personal-advisor/?fbclid=IwAR1uDWlQTgNmrelitajTxSBUx8_l_lxTdpv8XARfhkJtNt3QSe6v01QjANY

“Special Personal Advisor On Rape Gangs & Prison Reform.”

some job title that

Suppose if you want some bloke to talk to you about prison you might as well get an ex con. 

10 hours ago, ZicoKelly said:

“Special Personal Advisor On Rape Gangs & Prison Reform.”

some job title that

 

It's almost a rapey version of "sandwich artist".

Bollocks

Edited November 24, 20187 yr by gonzo

https://news.sky.com/story/asylum-seeker-who-claimed-to-be-15-and-joined-school-is-an-adult-11561810

 

29 minutes ago, gonzo said:

 

The guy is a crank 

not that it matters but from reading the comments he's not a UK Paki but an Aussie Arab, folk like Tarek need to do better when it comes to shit like that