I managed to bag tickets for the Old Trafford test today through the Lancs membership scheme

13/8 England?

bookies don’t take many risks!

Good effort that. Pity Denly didn't go on further.

Apparently, Root has had a bit of a strop with Aggers: if deserved criticism is what is required to motivate players, then keep it coming.

56 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Good effort that. Pity Denly didn't go on further.

Apparently, Root has had a bit of a strop with Aggers: if deserved criticism is what is required to motivate players, then keep it coming.

Strange thing, the mind and the collective mind

Root should acknowledge that some of the shots yesterday were really poor

 

But, if criticism spurs him on, then he can count on me to remind him of his predilection for sheep

Edited August 24, 20196 yr by boltondiver

I feel at times Root is a little immature.

Have to be able to take this brickbats as well as the adulation.

Yes protect your colleagues wherever possible, but also acknowledge team deficiencies.

Concern today is he relaxes a little and the team end up still losing fairly heavily. In which case, they won't have really achieved anything, be criticised again and his strop will have been pointless.

 

 

Is this in then? Can we do it? 

4 minutes ago, L/H White said:

Is this in then? Can we do it? 

I think we'll have a good idea by lunch.

Get through the second new ball in decent order and it's on.

I'm suspending my day until I know.

Watching this 2nd innings just makes it worse.

 

The only way they're better than us is that they turned up really wanting to win. We only started trying when it was nearly bloody finished.

On the result itself, we need the 4th, 5th or 6th wicket partnership to be 100+ - 4th has failed but a nice start for the 5th

We're now favourites on betfair. Bit early I'd say. Is going to make the loss more painful!

14 minutes ago, maaarsh said:

Watching this 2nd innings just makes it worse.

 

The only way they're better than us is that they turned up really wanting to win. We only started trying when it was nearly bloody finished.

They planned better as well

hopefully, it’ll count for nowt!

Think these two, stokes and bairstow, need to get us almost there.

Buttler not done much and wouldn't want to rely on the tail in tense circumstances.

Woakes is more than a tail ender and is always good value for full effort - it will be very tough for anyone coming straight in, but calm down if they can get through 25 balls

53 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Think these two, stokes and bairstow, need to get us almost there.

Buttler not done much and wouldn't want to rely on the tail in tense circumstances.

Archer to score the winning run?

Shocking shot

Hopefully that was this sessions Root...

Feels like another wicket without getting the ask under 80 is probably curtains.

Having said that, either of the 2 players at the crease should be well placed to try and do it 1 handed farming the tail if we get to that.

Well Stokes has fucked him good and proper there

soon be taking my mum to tesco

Another opportunity for stokes to guide his team home here, a bit like the world cup final.

 

1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Another opportunity for stokes to guide his team home here, a bit like the world cup final.

 

After the first innings and that run out, he's already had 2 stinker dismissals in this Test - fingers cross it all comes right

3 minutes ago, maaarsh said:

After the first innings and that run out, he's already had 2 stinker dismissals in this Test - fingers cross it all comes right

Stokes stays in; we win?

The wickets today have been poor shots from Root and Bairstow, then Stokes selling Buttler down the river. It's not unplayable at all, but these 2 need to calm things down now or we could easily finish 70 short.

Aye. These two: oh fuck it. Woakes you twat.

Stokes will have to open up sooner or later.

Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Aye. These two: oh fuck it. Woakes you twat.

Stokes will have to open up sooner or later.

He won't last long once he does.

I'm watching the golf.

2 minutes ago, maaarsh said:

He won't last long once he does.

I'm watching the golf.

Perhaps, but better to go trying rather than relying on tail enders helping him crawl to the target.

Reckon, he might see how archer goes.

Silly shots costing us