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Also surely the high court / judge are going to ask questions tomorrow if Anderson asks for a further extension based on a completely new buyer who was not even in the picture 2 weeks ago (and who has not seemingly agreed to pay of 'all' debts) and not the ‘mystery bidder’ mentioned in previous court hearing.

I'm still absolutely astounded that any judge would allow a further extension - when the only reason for the extension given 2 weeks ago was on the condition that Howards bidder (who had already signed heads of terms and agreed a cost with Anderson) would settle 'all' outstanding debts before 3rd April. So something still doesn't quite add up here, surely a judge tomorrow has to ensure that all 'debts' are paid off as per the agreement 2 weeks ago - otherwise Anderson's legal team were not being truthful at the initial hearing & any judge worth their weight tomorrow will not like that. And I still can't get my head around the fact that Howard has previously stated that his mob had already agreed to buy the Moonshift debt & also I thought that Anderson had now defaulted on this, so why would Moonshift allow this to happen. Its also strange that Howards mob will walk away so easily (forget the publicity issue) and not match the amount that Bassini's group have offered Anderson if they really wanted the club (even though KA has said that he's accepting a lower offer in his latest column). Surely if Howards bidders are who they say they are Anderson would want to deal with them. Perhaps Bassini's group actually want the club more than Howards lot ?

This still doesn't add up to me, these are so called serious business men they should have foreseen things like this happening in a deal like this - also it sounds like Moonshift obviously don't have the clout they thought they had to force Anderson's hand. I'm really surprised that Howards bidders & Moonshift knowing what KA is like did not envisage this happening, and are now pulling out just because it's got a bit difficult.

Howard, I sincerely respect everything that you have posted & do not doubt your integrity - however, my personal view is that I don't think that your bidders are that serious. If they seriously have deep pockets & really wanted the club - they would not let anything that KA has done to date affect their bid, surely they should have known that dealing with someone such as Anderson would have been like this....everyone knows the type of despicable person he is, and that he doesn't give a toss about the club, players, staff, fans etc....he's only ever been in this for himself and surely your bidders are not naïve enough to not have known this.

Apologies if I'm missing something here - but how on earth does Anderson get away with his claim of non receipt. I thought that the only reason the court gave an extension, was on the basis of a lawyer representing Anderson stating in court that he (Anderson) had an agreement in principle, heads of terms agreed etc. with a interested party who had agreed to pay of all debts before 3rd April. How can he now turn around and say he only found out about this last week ?

And we still lost 2-0 and didn't score. When did they change the rules so that the team who played better got the 3 points ? I thought winning football was what its about....no ?

Surely Ken had to put some money in to get his initial 45/50% shareholding & the Chairman role - I'm sure that he wasn't just given that initial shareholding in the club for nothing. It's ridiculous to suggest that Ken hasn't put any money into the club apart from the short term cash flow interest free loans, of which he's admitted that he's taken some of this back.

Someone who knows how to do these things, probably needs to get an online petition going along the lines of 'BWFC supporters have no confidence in the BWST, and that they DO NOT represent the majority of BWFC fans'. The ST are an absolute disgrace, those motions are laughable, its run by nerdy Little Britain type people that most would seriously avoid in a pub as they would probably cover you in spit when talking - they need to be stopped by the proper fans from damaging the club ASAP

MK - just sent you a PM (well I think I did / tried too), I don't post much and to be honest I'm a dinosaur in regards to stuff like this (forums etc)

Bowtun Baked you saying Mounts doesn't make stuff up - so you really think we have 6,000-7,000 ST members ? - how do you know that everything that he posts is 100% accurate, do you sit on his shoulder ? He spouts as much general shite as the rest of us do on here in his support of the ST- I don't dislike MK, far from it, If its who I think it is I know him from the 80's / 90's as I knew / still know a few of the L/H lads from that time (worked with many) as we used to meet up with them regularly at many games back them (Vulcan / Deane lads) and even away from football I just happen to totally disagree with him in regards to the ST

The fact that you are the 'lone' ST supporting voice on here speaks volumes really & is a true reflection of the small minority support that the ST have amongst the Bolton fans. I actually think its you who's constantly making stuff up to try and justify / defend the ST's existence, when most fans know that they are just a hindrance and I'll repeat do not represent the majority of Bolton fans and I'll leave at that as this is going nowhere.

No way I'm having that they have 6-7,000 members !! A few thousand (me included) initially gave a £10 when they 1st set up after ED jacked in (before KA got involved) - many (me included) cancelled soon after a series of stupid, anti KA type statements that did not represent my views or opinion. I'd guess that they currently only have around 1,000 (max), who have continued to pay £10 a year - probably even less than that. They do more damage to the club than good and should disband.

Go on then Mounts, can you let us know what better information they have & what the fans views actually are. How many supporters / what % of fans have they spoken to and gathered opinions on what's important to the fans. I suspect that this poll is a more accurate reflection of the % of fans who actually support the trust & who doesn't. How can a group with support that I would guess at approx 5% of the fan base represent the Bolton Wanderers supporters. They represent a tiny minority of fans and have absolutely no mandate to claim represent the Bolton fans

The ST simply do not represent the BWFC fans - end of. The majority of fans think that they are a complete & utter joke, they do not speak for the vast majority of BWFC fans - as others have said If I was KA I'd ban them as well. They are a very small group of unelected people who call themselves the BWST Most fans do not even know who they are.

Already voted Conservative - for the economy, brexit, immigration, security. The austerity the Tories have had to introduce over the past 6 years was not down to choice, but necessity - all down to the mindless, significant over spending of the previous labour government. How on earth could Corbyn, Abbott & McDonnell run a country, they'd struggle running a pub - weak as piss on Brexit (roll over for the EU negotiators to tickle their bellies), laughable on the economy - borrow, borrow, borrow, spend, spend, spend the national debt will be back to the level of the Blair days in 12 months time - immigration will increase significantly as they will let anyone in, and Corbyn will continue to support the terrorists. Personally I detest Corbyn - he just represents the scruffy, scrounging, green peace type, tree hugging, anti fracking type, ultra left wing commies - he should be on that benefits Britain TV program

They where a scruffy set of cnuts I'll say that much, all they did walking down from the A6 was take constant selfies - one fat scruffy cnut crossed the road at the M61 r/about and took a photos of them all from the central reservation - like they where on a day trip out. To be fair to them It looked like they had a good 15-20 older lads at the front who looked game but the rest looked like they were straight from school - they could also see before they went down the steps past the bridge onto the premier inn car park that there were very few people outside the two pubs and it was 2.55pm

I walked a few paces behind them all the way down De Havilland Way from the A6 about 2.45pm, about 70 of them got off a coach & possibly a mini bus at the A6 roundabout - a mixture of older lads and 16/17 year olds looking like they were on a school trip supping bottles of vodka - as mobs go they didn't look up to much, but perhaps that's what mobs look like these days ! They then stopped for few minutes & I walked past them, they then went down the steps near the railway line opposite the Premier Inn & ran across the car park throwing a few bottles and then just chased whoever was drinking outside back into Scotts & the Harvester - though there were not many left drinking at that time it looked like there were about 20 people spread outside both pubs who got chased inside as it was about 2.55pm when this happened. About 10-15 Tactical Aid jumped over the perimeter wooden wall within minutes and put a stop to it.

I saw it I was about 20 yards behind them as they left the ground, there were only about 10 Wolves initially (50 year old blokes) who had been taunting about 4 or 5 Bolton dads with kids at the end of the game in the ground (offering them outside etc). A few of the Bolton lads had a go (the angry dads) at the group of 10 or so Wolves as they left the ground, like I said earlier there were loads of police there already a few punches thrown then more and more wolves came out of the ground and got involved but it was nothing, a few more Bolton came to see what was happening - I stood and watched it all, then more police came from the grassy area and told everyone to do one. A lot of shouting, a few really old Wolves bouncing about - but TBH it was laughable there were loads of police.

Didn't look like that to me, unless they went in the WSL when everyone had left. I was sat in the WSL near the Wolves fans, saw it all - as soon as the game finished, some dads (and an angry woman) walking out of the ground clashed with a few 'very' old Wolves, who had been goading the Bolton fans after their last minute goal, they then started goading each other & gesturing etc....it was literally near the turnstiles, a few punches thrown, loads of police then a few more wolves came out of the ground and started bouncing about with the police wrestling with a lad on the floor (not sure whether BWFC or Wolves) - then more police came over, to me unless it escalated a few minutes later it wasn't much and I never saw any Wolves in the WSL

Good I hope you do, get into him....he's ok though Miami knows him well, as many of the older lads will. However, I don't get these 'not many will say it to his face' comments, he's a good lad I've known him for many years and have a lot of time for him.

He certainly is !

Don't bull him up !....believe me plenty would say it to his face, but as I've said before he's a decent loyal passionate Bolton fan who's had a few too many and vented his frustration. No ones excusing him and its embarrassing, but as far as BWFC are concerned he'll still be there next week and the numerous weeks / years after that, TBH he probably won't give a toss that people on here are going OTT, but like I said the ones slagging him off will possibly be stood having a beer with him at some stage over the next few weeks.

What so if you knew who it was you'd turn up and abuse him, grow up FFS He's had a few beers and shouted abuse at the Bolton bus after yet another sh*te performance, he didn't know he was on camera, it was the Brighton guy who said he was scum not the Bolton lad.

There's no need to name him....he'll probably be on here to own up in a few days, then again perhaps not, but he's as loyal a fan as I've known in the 30+ years I've followed the team, in terms of abusing him you would probably get as much back. The footage doesn't look good, but I'm sure he didn't know he was being filmed otherwise he wouldn't have done it, like I said once he knows its doing the rounds he will be embarrassed, I'm not defending him at all but he's obviously had a few beers, spent an absolute fortune as he has over the years and was totally p***ed off after yet another inept spineless performance and the emotion took over. It happens get over it, he's a good decent lad and most on here will have had a beer or two with him over the years

I'm not saying that it excuses him, far from it. But if its who I think it is he's spent a lot longer and a lot more money than most following the whites home & abroad, and also if its who I think it is he'll be very embarrassed by it today - but believe me he is a decent lad.