leadfrog1

We failed to pay before they failed to play.

Regardless of how much they earn, we have a moral obligation to pay them as per the contract both the club and the player agreed to. Sure its not a good thing but I don't even think it was about the pay, I think it was constantly being lied to about pay dates and being kept out of the loop.

Not at all. They signed a contract and the club is the one not fufilling their obligations. Would you work for free when you've got bills to pay?

I blame 5 people for the position we are in right now, all for different reasons. Phil gartside, Eddie davis, Ken Anderson, the efl and phil parkinson. Yes I know the elf isn't a person :lol:.

He is partially to blame, that's a fact. Not entirely but he's had a hand in it.

If we were still going to be a champion team next season, we'd be a more saleable asset and thus we probably wouldn't be in the position we're in now.

How the actual fuck does parky still have sycophants?

Don't say that on here you'll have your head bitten off. Doesn't matter how true it is.

Bahrain isn't the far East though, so who knows.

Howard said his lot were American, I think.

12 points is 4 wins, if we get this shit sorted and get a proper team together we shouldnt have a problem in L1. It's just making sure that we're not back here again in afew years.

Thing is ken is totally taking the piss, hiding debt etc. Admin is now I feel the only way to save the club. As shit as that might seem.

What a fucking mess this has been and how the governing body allowed this to go on for weeks is beyond me.

Ronnie Pickering

hidetoshi nakata

You mad?

Thing is we don't even know if there'll be a statement either way.

Some of the players that have gone on and done well couldn't get anywhere near our team at the time, it gives me hope that some of our current lot aren't as bad as they seem to be and maybe with a new coaching staff and manager, they might put on a good show.

Or not, that's the problem from their perspective, they've no idea when or even if they'll get paid.

Ssdd

There's no new information atm, if you want speculation there's 500+ pages.

Yes they do. And yes some people are, I've seen people who think this lot have done a good job.

Before joining us murphy played 4/5 seasons in the Leeds and Burtons first team in the championship. Buckly was only loaned out because he wasn't good enough in the Premier league, then loaned out to championship clubs. Hobbs had a bad injury, his quality was never in doubt.

I'm sure there's got to be something to this, murphy, noone, buckly, hobbs etc have been in the championship their entire careers for some decent teams, they come here and theyre shit... Wtf could cause this. It has to be the training and tactics.

Facking hell that attitude pisses me off, they're all useless. Remember that video afew years back of derik osado strength training and using the equipment wrong, these guys are amateurs, the lot of them need to go.