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The Club's Response

Thank you for your email and I am sorry to hear of your disappointment

 

Firstly in respect of Guimaraes tickets, these were all processed and issued immediately they were received from Guimaeres. Indeed there are many examples of UK Clubs who due to the late arrival of tickets from the opposing Club, are left in the often difficult position of having to distribute tickets to their supporters from the opposing clubs venue, a situation that Bolton Wanderers have successfully avoided during this campaign.

 

The Clubs policy in respect of applications for UEFA Cup tickets has been widely publicized, with applications for tickets invited 2 weeks ago mmediately Marseille had confirmed the ticket price. The club has always made it clear that all applications would be date stamped and processed in the strict order they were received, a process that has been followed to the letter.

 

At no time has the club published any information suggesting that demand would be lower than for Portugal.

 

With regard to Corporate Hospitality packages, under UEFA rules, each Club is allocated 200 tickets for Club guests, players and business clients, which are over and above the Clubs ticket only allocation. I should stress that these are not part of the clubs 2,800 ticket allocation. I should also stress that corporate clients and customers are a very important part of the Clubs recent success, with the vast majority being lifelong supporters of the Football Club and the vast majority having being corporate season ticket holders for many years.

 

With regard to your own application, if it was received before the end of the day on Saturday 28th January, then it will have been successful. The majority of those received on Monday 30th January have also been successful with any additional applications being held on a waiting list should the club receive any returns, which is often the case.

 

In summary, the Club have acted in strict accordance with our widely publicized ticket policy and procedures and while we are sorry that a small number of applications may have been unsuccessful, such an eventuality is inevitable when the number of applications received exceeds the tickets available to the Club.

 

Thank you however for writing to the Club with your concerns.

 

With kind regards

 

Gareth Moores

Commercial Director

 

-----Original Message-----

From: wigg [mailto:wigg@yahoo.co.uk]

Sent: 31 January 2006 14:10

To: Gareth Moores

Subject: Hugely disappointed and angry fan

 

Dear Mr Moores,

 

I just wanted to let you know how extremely disappointed I am (yet again) with the way that the club and ticket office have handled arrangements for a big match. After the Guimaraes fiasco (tickets arriving literally the day that we left for Portugal) I thought you would have learnt something ... but apparently no.

 

Like many fans I was very surprised to see that the club waited so long to invite applications. Why not do it sooner? The number of tickets given to us by the other team would have no effect on the application process.

 

If you had asked any fan on the street they would have told you that more of their friends were hoping to travel to Marseille. As far as I am aware, the only information given out by the club suggested that there wouldn't be problem with tickets as interest was significantly lower than for Portugal. As a result of this I booked flights and accomodation for myself and my Dad and put in my application for tickets as soon as they were requested.

 

I phoned the ticket office this morning to buy tickets for 4 other matches and on enquiring about Marseille I was informed that all tickets had gone and that not all even all of the season ticket holder applications have been successful.

 

I understand that Marseille will not be releasing any more tickets, but if that is the case then why have the club not announced that the match is now sold out? As it is, more people could be booking travel today with the assumption that they are still likely to get tickets.

 

And now for the bit that makes me really really angry. On realising I wouldn't have tickets I decided to enquire about corporate packages. I was told that these were still available and on double checking was

assured that if I wanted to I could get a seat in with the away fans rather than at the box. Now that is a joke.

 

And the club wonders why only 13,000 turn up for the FA cup game when they are treated like this.

 

Thanks for listening. I hope some lessons can be learned!

 

PS. Looks like there will be a lot of Bolton fans in the home end in Marseille

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wigg

 

are you a season ticket holder?

 

if so, how come you didn't get a ticket if you applied a week or more ago?

5% = 3000 ish

away end holds 3000 fact

bwfc get 2800 tickets + 200 corporate tickets

 

So we did receive 3000 after all.

 

Why didn't they say that all along?

5% = 3000 ish

away end holds 3000 fact

bwfc get 2800 tickets + 200 corporate tickets

 

So we did receive 3000 after all.

 

Why didn't they say that all along?

 

"the seating we are using for customers on the executive trip is

actually balcony seating outside the hospitality boxes"

 

Still doesnt explain why we have only been given 2800 tickets in an section that holds 3000 (See comment above from the club), other than for the reason for those who turn up without tickets!

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Sadly I don't have a ST so I wouldn't actually feel too hard done by if others get priority and I don't get a ticket. It's the way that the club go about these things which really winds me up! Even now they're sending out mixed messages. I've just heard that the ticket office told someone an hour ago that there are 1,000 tickets left.

 

I give up with them I really do!

Even now they're sending out mixed messages. I've just heard that the ticket office told someone an hour ago that there are 1,000 tickets left.

 

perhaps that's part of the problem, chinese whispers and hearsay, and people relying on this to critiscise

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Unfortunately my anger is based on what I personally was told by the ticket office this morning and emails I received from the club's commercial director and corporate sales department.

 

No Chinese whispers on this occasion!

The Clubs policy in respect of applications for UEFA Cup tickets has been widely publicized, with applications for tickets invited 2 weeks ago mmediately Marseille had confirmed the ticket price

 

Dear Gareth,

 

We are in England, it's spelt "publicised", you make the same fundamental mistake twice.

 

Immediately starts with a vowel, "I" in this case. Your grammar is atrocious. You are therefore charged with being "not the brightest" and "not fit for office", that concludes the evidence for the prosecution.

 

Carlos.

The truth is you shouldn't listen to any employee who may just say anything to get rid of you from the windows. In actual fact you should waiting until offical statements have been released, then vent your anger if it is warranted.

 

I'm not defending the club's ticketing policy, but I feel that whatever they do not everyone will be satisfied. They are in a no win situation.

The truth is you shouldn't listen to any employee who may just say anything to get rid of you from the windows. In actual fact you should waiting until offical statements have been released, then vent your anger if it is warranted.

 

I'm not defending the club's ticketing policy, but I feel that whatever they do not everyone will be satisfied. They are in a no win situation.

 

 

soooooooooo

 

have they sold out or not?

5% = 3000 ish

away end holds 3000 fact

bwfc get 2800 tickets + 200 corporate tickets

 

So we did receive 3000 after all.

 

Why didn't they say that all along?

 

The away end does hold 3,000 that is true and like I have posted numerous times the local police restricted the fans to 2,800 as crowd control.

 

The corporate tickets are indeed 200 and these are situated in the home section of the ground. These are not included in the 3,000 or 2,800.

 

If Marseille wish to have 200 seats in the West Stand Upper, then BWFC will have to provide them on request. These will be for corporate guests and not included in the South Stand allocation.

never mind that

 

have they sold out?

soooooooooo

 

have they sold out or not?

Sorry I left my crystal ball at work.

 

Wait for the official announcement on the site, that's the clubs not our 'official' site :D

exactly

 

 

IF wiggys posted email is genuine mr moores says the tickets have gone

 

yet there is no official word

 

not good enough

 

in my opinion

Could be way off the mark but could spare 200 seats in the away end be for getting in bolton fans with no tickets. Read somewhere else that Newcastle fans got in sections of the ground near the away fans then joined the rest when they went over... This is assuming that the corporate tickets are actually somewhere else in the ground.

Unfortunately my anger is based on what I personally was told by the ticket office this morning and emails I received from the club's commercial director and corporate sales department.

 

No Chinese whispers on this occasion!

 

Wiggy: When did you apply? and do you have a season ticket?

 

From Moores email. All those with season tickets that applied on or before the day of the Arsenal game will get tickets.

 

Perhaps its just me and I'm missing the point, but, I'm struggling to see what the club has done wrong.

wiggy doesn't have a season ticket.....

 

all i think they have done wrong is not communicate - IF tickets are sold out

Dear Gareth,

 

We are in England, it's spelt "publicised", you make the same fundamental mistake twice.

 

Immediately starts with a vowel, "I" in this case. Your grammar is atrocious. You are therefore charged with being "not the brightest" and "not fit for office", that concludes the evidence for the prosecution.

 

Carlos.

 

You don't need a comma after 'Gareth' and you don't need a comma after 'Carlos.' :D

We don't give a fcuk if you miss out
:D :D

cant believe that i am not going

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As I don't have a season ticket I won't be upset at the club if I don't get one of the 2,800 we have been given. What I'm upset about is this....

 

1. If Marseille only ever give the away club 2,800 tickets then why didn't Bolton just announce that immediately? That way, I and probably many other non-season ticket holders, wouldn't have bothered booking expensive travel and accomodation for a match that was only ever going to be attended by season ticket holders.

 

2. If all of the tickets are sold out, why haven't they announced that fact? People might still be booking travel now in the expectation of getting a ticket. Despite what they say, someone from the club was quoted in the Evening News as saying that demand wasn't expected to be that high .... and that is the only thing I have read about likely demand.

 

3. Why can they find a ticket in a 'sold out' section for a corporate enquiry when some season ticket holders have missed out?

 

All I'm asking for is a bit of communication. The draw was made 6 weeks ago and by all accounts we were only ever going to get 2,800 tickets. Why couldn't this have been done and dusted sooner?

2. If all of the tickets are sold out, why haven't they announced that fact?

 

They got round to it this morning

 

http://www.bwfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Ticke...~776902,00.html

 

Marseille Trip Sold Out

 

BOLTON WANDERERS' latest leg of their European tour will be backed by a sold-out contingent of 2,800 travelling fans.

 

All available tickets for the UEFA Cup Round of 32, second-leg away tie against Marseille on Thursday 23 February have now sold out. Season ticket holder applications received by the Ticket and Membership Office on or before Saturday 28 January have been successful as have the vast majority of applications received by 5pm on Monday 30 January 2006.

 

A small number of applications that were received by 5pm on Monday 30 January have, at this stage, been unsuccessful. However, these applications will be kept on a waiting list in the event of the Club receiving any returns or cancellations.

 

Unfortunately, applications that arrived after Monday 30 January or applications previously received from non-season ticket holders will be unsuccessful.

Dear Gareth,

 

We are in England, it's spelt "publicised", you make the same fundamental mistake twice.

 

Immediately starts with a vowel, "I" in this case. Your grammar is atrocious. You are therefore charged with being "not the brightest" and "not fit for office", that concludes the evidence for the prosecution.

 

Carlos.

 

You don't need a comma after 'Gareth' and you don't need a comma after 'Carlos.' :D

 

Think you'll find that I'm a computer programmer, not a company director tasked with communicating with customers.

Dear Gareth,

 

We are in England, it's spelt "publicised", you make the same fundamental mistake twice.

 

Immediately starts with a vowel, "I" in this case. Your grammar is atrocious. You are therefore charged with being "not the brightest" and "not fit for office", that concludes the evidence for the prosecution.

 

Carlos.

 

You don't need a comma after 'Gareth' and you don't need a comma after 'Carlos.' :D

 

Think you'll find that I'm a computer programmer, not a company director tasked with communicating with customers.

 

Was that a byte, Carlos?

 

See what I did there? :D

They did announce a couple of weeks ago that we were only going to get 2800. I think it was on the web, but definitely in the BEN

 

The problem is that they have repeatedly said that there would be no problem getting tickets and recommended booking travel arrangements etc....

 

I also think that they should accept applications a lot more in advance, even if they don't know numbers, they would at least be able to advise fans how many were sold and give a better indication.

 

Fair enough I may have lost out, as I couldn't go until about 3 weeks ago, but can now and have got a ticket.

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