February 16, 201214 yr It's sad to witness the demise of Rangers but the Murray and White knew exactly the risk they were taking. This may prove the final death knell for scottish football.Despite my allegiances to the Bhoys I really do feel sorry for the Rangers' fans as I know that could easily be us in 12 months In fairness to PG, I believe he has a little more business acumen than previous BWFC chairmen For one , you don't get appointed to the FA board and director of wembley stadium without rubbing backs and greasing palms If he continues to put BWFC as his first or second priority ( after himself), then I don't have problem with that We don't punch above our weight, we don't sign ridiculously over priced players We don't pretend to be a BIG club, as per WHFC, SFC,AVFC,NUFC We haven't got a massive fan base We live within our means And as a supporter who has been through the lean years Div 4, DIv 3, Div 2, Div , Championship !!!, every year in the Prem is a glory year Yes Rangers were cheating the system, and the fans, and every other club in the Scottish league by living beyond their means But the Scottish league is and has been a farce for years, in fact more years than I care to remember But the real shame lies with HMRC that have allowed a football club to receive preferential treatment over valid businesses that employed real people in every Scottish industry that has gone to the wall!
February 16, 201214 yr In fairness to PG, I believe he has a little more business acumen than previous BWFC chairmen For one , you don't get appointed to the FA board and director of wembley stadium without rubbing backs and greasing palms If he continues to put BWFC as his first or second priority ( after himself), then I don't have problem with that We don't punch above our weight, we don't sign ridiculously over priced players We don't pretend to be a BIG club, as per WHFC, SFC,AVFC,NUFC We haven't got a massive fan base We live within our means And as a supporter who has been through the lean years Div 4, DIv 3, Div 2, Div , Championship !!!, every year in the Prem is a glory year Yes Rangers were cheating the system, and the fans, and every other club in the Scottish league by living beyond their means But the Scottish league is and has been a farce for years, in fact more years than I care to remember But the real shame lies with HMRC that have allowed a football club to receive preferential treatment over valid businesses that employed real people in every Scottish industry that has gone to the wall! You were doing really well up to that point. I reckon you can count on one hand the number of PL clubs who live within their means. We are not one of them.
February 16, 201214 yr You were doing really well up to that point. I reckon you can count on one hand the number of PL clubs who live within their means. We are not one of them. Are we bending the tax rules to breaking point ?
February 16, 201214 yr Going back to Rangers..... I don't want any team to go to the wall.. But the way both the bigot brothers have treated Scottish football and disgraced the Scottish nation I'm not sorry it is them if it had to be anyone. That's my say on the matter
February 16, 201214 yr Are we bending the tax rules to breaking point ? I don't know if we are bending the rules or not. Did I suggest that we were? No I didn't. Edited February 17, 201214 yr by Zulu
February 17, 201214 yr This missing ?24m in future season ticket sales looks interesting. It was paid into a subsidiary Company & has now disappeared. Strathclyde Police are aware & taking an interest it seems. Also, Milan Mandaric is interested in taking over the reigns. Roddy Forsyth just said that's good because he's worth about ?50m, so he can hand that over & live in a tent outside Ibrox.
February 17, 201214 yr It'll have been siphoned out of the club, into the pockets of Glasgow's criminal masterminds and passed onto Venkey's via Steve Kean. Those ridiculous conspiracy theories are coming true I tells ya. Edited February 17, 201214 yr by DazBobParr
February 17, 201214 yr May well be wrong here, but it's possible all their assets, including Ibrox, could be sold off to repay creditors. So, whilst there is nothing to stop the club starting up again, potentially they could start off with no ground, nothing. I'd be very, very surprised to see that happen though, they're too big an institution in Scotland to disappear into the abyss. Scottish football struggles enough with them, let alone without them. As someone mentioned earlier, as much as Celtic hate them, they NEED them.
February 17, 201214 yr Going back to Rangers..... I don't want any team to go to the wall.. But the way both the bigot brothers have treated Scottish football and disgraced the Scottish nation I'm not sorry it is them if it had to be anyone. That's my say on the matter Whilst I agree with you, if one does go into liquidation that would send shock waves around the game. All the while the bigger clubs get into difficulties and are saved by white knights at 11.59 the rest think that all will be right in the end. The demise of a larger club be it Rangers, Portsmouth or whoever would bring with it a realisation that this is not the case and could help bring to an end the massive wages, bonuses, signing on and agents' fees, whether it would or not is a completely different matter.
February 17, 201214 yr This missing ?24m in future season ticket sales looks interesting. It was paid into a subsidiary Company & has now disappeared. Strathclyde Police are aware & taking an interest it seems. Also, Milan Mandaric is interested in taking over the reigns. Roddy Forsyth just said that's good because he's worth about ?50m, so he can hand that over & live in a tent outside Ibrox. It's just "not visible".
February 17, 201214 yr Sky's agreement with the SPL requires 4 Old Firm matches per season..So if that lapses all the clubs in that league will suffer, but obviously Celtic most of all. Also Rangers need to exit administration by the end of March in order to qualify for a licence into UEFA competitions for next season.
February 17, 201214 yr Why Celtic most of all? They've got millions of scruffy cunt fans to sell shirts and tat to. There's clubs out there that have fuck all revenue apart from when these 2 visit. Celtic = guaranteed Champions League football year on year, it ain't so bad.
February 17, 201214 yr Unless Celtic (or another Scottish club) make real progress in UEFA competitions next season, thereafter the Scottish champions will start alongside the Welsh and Irish champions in Q2 of the Champions' League (Q1 is for absolute minnows). And the runners-up will only be in the Europa League.
February 17, 201214 yr Same reason Lex Luther needs Superman. that's the way I see them both. The Celtic fans who think it's funny, who you going to hate now?
February 17, 201214 yr I don't know if we are bending the rules or not. Did I suggest that we were? No I didn't. Nope, you didn't. But the topic is Rangers and you brought in a comparison with English/Welsh Prem clubs in general, and the Wanderers in particular. The reasoning wasn't obvious, so I wondered if you thought BW were bending the tax rules like Rangers seem to have been.
February 17, 201214 yr Nope, you didn't. But the topic is Rangers and you brought in a comparison with English/Welsh Prem clubs in general, and the Wanderers in particular. The reasoning wasn't obvious, so I wondered if you thought BW were bending the tax rules like Rangers seem to have been. No I didn't. I commented on one point in Mona's post. That point was his/her comment about clubs living within their means. The reasoning seems obvious to me. Still, do carry on.
February 17, 201214 yr Sell out at Ibrox tomorrow, could be interesting. Money straight to HMRC? good for us taxpayers might go towards paying some police bills in Manchester
February 17, 201214 yr Money straight to HMRC? good for us taxpayers might go towards paying some police bills in Manchester It should be but I seriously doubt it.
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