got this email update

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You will be able to see some clips of the interviews on the site from 9 July 2012 but bear in

 

mind that they still need quite a bit of technical work and that we may use different clips in

 

the final cut.

 

Web Site

 

This has been updated and expanded to include not only information on the documentary,

 

but also some background on the research that's been completed.

 

Cannes Film Festival

 

The Director, one of the Producers and the Sales Agent attended the Cannes Film Festival

 

in May to meet the sales agent and others to discuss and promote the film.

 

Finance

 

In March we presented to a group of NW investors as the result of which two said they'd

 

invest. More interestingly they introduced us to a company that manages the finances of a

 

number of north-west Premier League players and high net worth people and we've met

 

and discussed options there. We hope to get a decision on whether they are going to

 

help raise funds for us in the next few days.

 

We've also had a meeting with second, major, Soho based Post Production company and

 

we have received a letter detailing their intention to invest £211,500 into the WW project.

 

Efforts with other production companies and potential investors to raise the balance of

 

funding needed continue.

 

Pinewood

 

It looks unlikely that WW will be chosen as one of the four films Pinewood will invest in this

 

year. They say they want films with “access to market” and in our case this would mean

 

contracting with local distributors before we've shot any film. Distributors will only pay

 

peanuts for this (on a good day and after lots of beer - and they'd probably pinch the

 

peanuts from the bar anyway) so we aren't going down that route.

 

However, we'll continue discussions with Pinewood Studios and may base the film project

 

there if they give us the sort of financial deal they've been talking about. We're getting and

 

comparing several costing proposals at the moment to see if Pinewood can be

 

competitive.

 

Cast

 

Other good news is that we had a meeting with Sean Maguire who is even more excited

 

and enthusiastic about the film than Bradley Walsh. (Which is saying something). Sean

 

then flew to Los Angeles and has told us that he's speaking to investors both in LA and

 

London (he has his own production company here) as well asking his footballing friends if

 

they will appear in the film. These friends include some very well known names as well as

 

the rest of the LA All Stars soccer team that he plays for.

 

We've asked BWFC if some of the players can appear as players too and had a positive

 

reaction - provided there aren't any heavy tackles.

 

Contracts and distribution

 

Shoreline (the contracted worldwide distributor) has told us that, based on our proposed

 

budget they can guarantee a UK cinema release.

 

In addition, we have the major Airline film distributor for the Pacific region emailing to say

 

he'll definitely release it on 30 airlines.

 

General

 

We have been deliberately holding back from sending out another News Update since it

 

will include that we're talking to this company, that company, two very wealthy NW

 

businessmen, a similar person from Qatar, and two others, all of whom could fund the

 

whole thing quite easily and all of whom could make a decision tomorrow. Rather than

 

say “Decision could be any day now” and then it not happening we're waiting until we have

 

solid news.

 

In spite of that, we appreciate that people want to know - which is really encouraging - and

 

we'll send out another general News Update as soon as there is positive news on the

 

finance front.

 

Best wishes

 

The WW Team

 

You've been sent this document because you've expressed interest in the Wartime Wanderers Film Project (or

 

possibly because we're trying to interest you). If you do not want to receive any more communications like this

 

please reply with 'UNSUBSCRIBE' as the subject. Thanks.

 

 

 

How's it all going? 9 July 2012

 

A long and frustrating time since the last update.

 

The team is still working away at developing the project and there are some

 

good, new contacts on the investment front.

 

We think we're gradually getting closer.

 

Documentary

 

As mentioned in the last News Update, as part of the supporting activity for Wartime

 

Wanderers we have started filming a documentary about the team and football during

 

WW2. We've already had a film crew interview Danny Winter's wife, Ellen, in South

 

Wales who is 91, 93 year old Albert Lewis who was with them in France and through

 

Dunkirk and 91 year old Col. Dennis Walton, who was with the Wanderers in Italy in 1943

 

and very high in the Territorial Army. All gave good, interesting accounts of the men and

 

the times including some really good anecdotes.

 

We then asked BWFC if we could use facilities at The Reebok Stadium to film more

 

interviews and they were kind enough to let us use rooms overlooking the pitch to

 

interview Harry Goslin's son Bill, Ray Westwood's son, Alan, the club Secretary and

 

Historian, Simon Marland and Joe Foster, the founder of Reebok.

 

The documentary film will follow some pre-war games, the lead up to war and the team's

 

travels and games up to the return in 1945 as well as coverage of football at home during

 

that time.

 

The web pages can be accessed from the 'Documentary' tab at

 

www.wartimewanderers.com

 

.

got this email update

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You will be able to see some clips of the interviews on the site from 9 July 2012 but bear in

 

mind that they still need quite a bit of technical work and that we may use different clips in

 

the final cut.

 

Web Site

 

This has been updated and expanded to include not only information on the documentary,

 

but also some background on the research that's been completed.

 

Cannes Film Festival

 

The Director, one of the Producers and the Sales Agent attended the Cannes Film Festival

 

in May to meet the sales agent and others to discuss and promote the film.

 

Finance

 

In March we presented to a group of NW investors as the result of which two said they'd

 

invest. More interestingly they introduced us to a company that manages the finances of a

 

number of north-west Premier League players and high net worth people and we've met

 

and discussed options there. We hope to get a decision on whether they are going to

 

help raise funds for us in the next few days.

 

We've also had a meeting with second, major, Soho based Post Production company and

 

we have received a letter detailing their intention to invest £211,500 into the WW project.

 

Efforts with other production companies and potential investors to raise the balance of

 

funding needed continue.

 

Pinewood

 

It looks unlikely that WW will be chosen as one of the four films Pinewood will invest in this

 

year. They say they want films with “access to market” and in our case this would mean

 

contracting with local distributors before we've shot any film. Distributors will only pay

 

peanuts for this (on a good day and after lots of beer - and they'd probably pinch the

 

peanuts from the bar anyway) so we aren't going down that route.

 

However, we'll continue discussions with Pinewood Studios and may base the film project

 

there if they give us the sort of financial deal they've been talking about. We're getting and

 

comparing several costing proposals at the moment to see if Pinewood can be

 

competitive.

 

Cast

 

Other good news is that we had a meeting with Sean Maguire who is even more excited

 

and enthusiastic about the film than Bradley Walsh. (Which is saying something). Sean

 

then flew to Los Angeles and has told us that he's speaking to investors both in LA and

 

London (he has his own production company here) as well asking his footballing friends if

 

they will appear in the film. These friends include some very well known names as well as

 

the rest of the LA All Stars soccer team that he plays for.

 

We've asked BWFC if some of the players can appear as players too and had a positive

 

reaction - provided there aren't any heavy tackles.

 

Contracts and distribution

 

Shoreline (the contracted worldwide distributor) has told us that, based on our proposed

 

budget they can guarantee a UK cinema release.

 

In addition, we have the major Airline film distributor for the Pacific region emailing to say

 

he'll definitely release it on 30 airlines.

 

General

 

We have been deliberately holding back from sending out another News Update since it

 

will include that we're talking to this company, that company, two very wealthy NW

 

businessmen, a similar person from Qatar, and two others, all of whom could fund the

 

whole thing quite easily and all of whom could make a decision tomorrow. Rather than

 

say “Decision could be any day now” and then it not happening we're waiting until we have

 

solid news.

 

In spite of that, we appreciate that people want to know - which is really encouraging - and

 

we'll send out another general News Update as soon as there is positive news on the

 

finance front.

 

Best wishes

 

The WW Team

 

You've been sent this document because you've expressed interest in the Wartime Wanderers Film Project (or

 

possibly because we're trying to interest you). If you do not want to receive any more communications like this

 

please reply with 'UNSUBSCRIBE' as the subject. Thanks.

 

 

 

How's it all going? 9 July 2012

 

A long and frustrating time since the last update.

 

The team is still working away at developing the project and there are some

 

good, new contacts on the investment front.

 

We think we're gradually getting closer.

 

Documentary

 

As mentioned in the last News Update, as part of the supporting activity for Wartime

 

Wanderers we have started filming a documentary about the team and football during

 

WW2. We've already had a film crew interview Danny Winter's wife, Ellen, in South

 

Wales who is 91, 93 year old Albert Lewis who was with them in France and through

 

Dunkirk and 91 year old Col. Dennis Walton, who was with the Wanderers in Italy in 1943

 

and very high in the Territorial Army. All gave good, interesting accounts of the men and

 

the times including some really good anecdotes.

 

We then asked BWFC if we could use facilities at The Reebok Stadium to film more

 

interviews and they were kind enough to let us use rooms overlooking the pitch to

 

interview Harry Goslin's son Bill, Ray Westwood's son, Alan, the club Secretary and

 

Historian, Simon Marland and Joe Foster, the founder of Reebok.

 

The documentary film will follow some pre-war games, the lead up to war and the team's

 

travels and games up to the return in 1945 as well as coverage of football at home during

 

that time.

 

The web pages can be accessed from the 'Documentary' tab at

 

www.wartimewanderers.com

 

.

 

 

Be great to see the film made as its a great story, thanks for the update JC, let's hope the finance comes forward if this was a bigger club it would have been over financed and made by now, hope someone realises its a story that needs to be told.

Ta for that - was wondering the other day what was happening with it all.

I put off reading that book for years, but got shivers down my spine when I eventually read it. Amazing story that would undoubtedly appeal to a wider audience than Bolton fans.

True, I use a role play based on the book with kids I work with and they are fascinated by the story of the Wartime Wanderers.

It's a great story, however so many years after the fact, &, as already mentioned, we're not Yoooniitteed, therefore, very unfortunately it'll all be very Mickey Mouse

 

Pity. As todays society could learn alot from the social ethos of them days.

 

Big Brother dickheads will give that channel 5 garbage bigger viewing figures than this film, by god I'm hoping I'm proved wrong, though I also fear I won't be

Read in the Bolton News today that this is due for release next year. Hope it finally gets done.

Read in the Bolton News today that this is due for release next year. Hope it finally gets done.

Think the documentary is an attempt to drum up interest for the film. Fair play there trying to get the film off the ground without a great deal of encouragement it seems.

My mate says he's just seen Bradley Walsh coming out of Burnden Asda.

My mate says he's just seen Bradley Walsh coming out of Burnden Asda.

Probably on his way to sign.

Looking at the website, it seems the budget for the film is only £5.6M  -  the fact they've not managed to raise such a small amount in the last 3 or 4 years would probably suggest that it's not going to be making onto our screens anytime soon.

 

I can only think that the only way it would get the investment, would probably be to "jazz it up" a bit and move away from the actual story.

 

At the end of the day, if you're not a Bolton fan, it might not come across as that appealing a story. If it was about Rochdale or Gillingham, would people be that bothered, probably not, so I can see why it's clearly not got much appeal outside of Bolton, hence the lack of interest in investing in it

 

Even if the investment comes, and the film is made, where does it get shown? - no way in a million years would it be on at a Cinema, so it would likely end up on More4 or something like that and go straight to DVD, therefore never really being able to cover it's own costs

Looking at the website, it seems the budget for the film is only £5.6M - the fact they've not managed to raise such a small amount in the last 3 or 4 years would probably suggest that it's not going to be making onto our screens anytime soon.

 

I can only think that the only way it would get the investment, would probably be to "jazz it up" a bit and move away from the actual story.

 

At the end of the day, if you're not a Bolton fan, it might not come across as that appealing a story. If it was about Rochdale or Gillingham, would people be that bothered, probably not, so I can see why it's clearly not got much appeal outside of Bolton, hence the lack of interest in investing in it

 

Even if the investment comes, and the film is made, where does it get shown? - no way in a million years would it be on at a Cinema, so it would likely end up on More4 or something like that and go straight to DVD, therefore never really being able to cover it's own costs

I got a bit bored with the book if we are all being honest.

I got a bit bored with the book if we are all being honest.

 

 

That's kind of my point, I read it and thought it was alright. If it had been about another towns team, I would have given up quite quickly. I loaned it to a mate of mine who is a Chelsea fan, who gave it me back a few weeks later and said he thought it a bit shit really - to be fair he did read all of it.

That's kind of my point, I read it and thought it was alright. If it had been about another towns team, I would have given up quite quickly. I loaned it to a mate of mine who is a Chelsea fan, who gave it me back a few weeks later and said he thought it a bit shit really - to be fair he did read all of it.

They should jazz the film up by chucking a few wizards and dragons in there.

 

Maybe some scantly clad Totty on the sidelines?

They should jazz the film up by chucking a few wizards and dragons in there.

 

Maybe some scantly clad Totty on the sidelines?

 

Aliens and Zombies, some of them as well

Somebody bought me the book and I've not read it.

If your an ancient Bolton fan its not a bad read , if your not ancient & not a Bolton fan you'll bin it three pages in, however

the Munich thing was no more interesting apart from more of the team died but they weren't in a war either , unfortunately

their brand is bigger .Still I hope they succeed with the film.

Somebody bought me the book and I've not read it.

My copy is in a box in the garage. I'd have to start again anyway it's been that long since I read the first few pages.

From the Wartime Wanderers with this bit in the book written by SIR Nat

 

All truly great teams possess an unbreakable unity which gives them the power to overcome their opposition whatever the circumstances. Their team spirit took them to great heights on the football field and transferred onto the battlefield when their country's need was greater

 

Sums up our current plight I think.

Stood and watched today a team of I'm alright Jack performances which has been endemic since Allardyce left

 

A sad reflection on the Bolton player of today. Not fit to lace up their boots.

 

First goal went in all hope was lost

 

Pathetic when you look at things like those occurances in this book

 

Poor