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Old Lancashire Sayings You Don't Hear Any More

Been discussing this at work. My grandad used to say, amongst others, 'put wood in th'ole' & 'well I'll go t' foot of our stairs' & 'well I'll go to our house'.

 

My manc/stoke colleagues didn't know what the hell I was on about!

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Yonder is a word you don't hear much now. Seem to remember running 'pell mell' when i was younger meaning flat out, fuck knows where that came from. My grandma used to say hers instead of she's.

It's full of United fans anyway in that part of Bolton.

They tend to support Arsenal & Liverpool more than that bunch of shithouses, much better than supporting us I suppose :)

Yonder is a word you don't hear much now. Seem to remember running 'pell mell' when i was younger meaning flat out, fuck knows where that came from. My grandma used to say hers instead of she's.

 

 

'O'er yonder' a regular phrase. 'Pell mell' must be summat to do with Pall Mall in London, surely?

Thank you H. Spot fucking on as usual. I was brought up by maternal grandparents. Both (proud) cotton mill workers who started in the shittiest part (scutching shed) and progressed to almost 'master' status'. Only the broader outside world and possibly TV stopped me from being a proper broad Lanky speaker. Every saying mentioned in this thread plus many others ('wather' for water, 'mugwump' for idiot and probably a thousand other words) were normal and regularly used everyday lingo at our house.

 

Rather than something to be ridiculed, I see it as something to be cherished and have pride in. Long may it continue - it is our Bolton history.

Went looking for the old Hovis advert after reading this. I found it and was rather perturbed to hear a west Country accent. Is that how it was or did each area have their own regional version?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Mq59ykPnAE

I remember when very young and living in Tonge Moor going to the 'Temperance Bar' on the main road for sweets.  I used to always think it was called the Ten Pence Bar.

 

Anyone know how a Temperance Bar differed from a normal corner shop?

 

Anyone know how a Temperance Bar differed from a normal corner shop?

 

I think they were allowed to open on a Sunday and they didn't serve booze. I recall that we used to get 10p "jubblies" from there (which just sounds plain wrong now)

I think they were allowed to open on a Sunday and they didn't serve booze. I recall that we used to get 10p "jubblies" from there (which just sounds plain wrong now)

 

Aye, and germolene bubble gum with smily acid house face tattoos iirc.

 

Oh, and those polystyrene airplanes (or were those from the shop further up the road).  Fucking loved them.

There's a proper Temperance Bar still operating in Ramsbottom or Rawtenstall. Fitzgeralds or summat?

 

Always had the impression they were connected ter Sally Army or similar. No alcohol - sarsparilla, dandelion and burdock etc.

 

The one on Tonge Moor Rd? Looking at the front of the library - a few doors down to the right next door to a butchers I recall?

There's a proper Temperance Bar still operating in Ramsbottom or Rawtenstall. Fitzgeralds or summat?

 

Always had the impression they were connected ter Sally Army or similar. No alcohol - sarsparilla, dandelion and burdock etc.

 

The one on Tonge Moor Rd? Looking at the front of the library - a few doors down to the right next door to a butchers I recall?

 

The one I seem to remember was a bit further up, facing the top of Haroldene Street.  I was only a nipper though so may be wrong.  Probably not even a shop any more.

The one I seem to remember was a bit further up, facing the top of Haroldene Street.  I was only a nipper though so may be wrong.  Probably not even a shop any more.

I think you're wrong, it was were Bolty said.

I think you're wrong, it was were Bolty said.

 

There was a corner shop facing the top of Haroldene St that we used to frequent though wasn't there..?

There was a corner shop facing the top of Haroldene St that we used to frequent though wasn't there..?

Yes, there was a little bakery near to it as well I think

There's a proper Temperance Bar still operating in Ramsbottom or Rawtenstall. Fitzgeralds or summat?

 

Always had the impression they were connected ter Sally Army or similar. No alcohol - sarsparilla, dandelion and burdock etc.

 

The one on Tonge Moor Rd? Looking at the front of the library - a few doors down to the right next door to a butchers I recall?

The butchers and the shop next door are now Windowcare and sell curtains and blinds.

Temperance Bars had links to Methodists I think (I went out with one at sixth form) around the mills towns as a place that extolled the virtues of a decent way of life (no sex before marriage - in fact they didn't much like men and women being in the same room) and to keep off the booze - as many folk were getting off their tits on gin in the industrialised north. There's still a Temperance movement if anyone wants to ditch the nasty violent druggy bit and sign the pledge.

 

And yes there is one in Ramsbottom, might take the kids - featured on some programme a while back.

One opened at Botany Bay earlier this year, first one for about 100 years.

There's a proper Temperance Bar still operating in Ramsbottom or Rawtenstall. Fitzgeralds or summat?

 

 

Fitzpatricks in Rawtenstall, mate. 

 

Opened in the 1890's.

Your all a bunch of buffoons, whatever a buffoon is? :)'

 

Didles' dog.

Standard answer I get in my house about anything: be reet.

Reading Spider's post on moaners, I'm sure that must be a phrase in it's death throes - 'be reet'. I'd quite like it on my tombstone...

 

Here lies Y. McAnespie.

1976-2097

Be reet.

Edited by Youri McAnespie

Fitzpatricks in Rawtenstall, mate. 

 

Opened in the 1890's.

 

Cheers Traf. Like my mate NIC, I saw it on some TV programme a few months back, I think it was yon mon out of the Young Ones 'Tour of Britain'?

Dolled up.

Inadvertently used one today. Exasperation caused it. New apprentice at our place (started Monday). Wandered down and saw him contemplating sticking his hand into a heavy duty gear mesh which was being very slowly rotated to check bluing/meshing accuracy.

 

"Don't stick yer hand in there lad. Can have fingers off them buggers"

 

Walked to the other end of the shop to look at a job, walked back and the silly sod is stood there with blood streaming out of the side of his hand.

 

All I could say was "what can yer do when yer shoes let wather in?"

 

It's instinctive (and completely indecipherable to Australians).

Going over to their country and talking in your own language? 

 

Tsk, that gets frowned upon over here.

Going over to their country and talking in your own language? 

 

Tsk, that gets frowned upon over here.

 

 

..and so it should FFS. Speak fooking English - I am (just in a local dialect from time to time which adds to the colour and texture of life and is as refreshing as a spring breeze over Winter Hill heather).

 

 It's the language of commerce and the most important language on the planet bar none.

 

You know, I know it, we all know it. 

Inadvertently used one today. Exasperation caused it. New apprentice at our place (started Monday). Wandered down and saw him contemplating sticking his hand into a heavy duty gear mesh which was being very slowly rotated to check bluing/meshing accuracy.

 

"Don't stick yer hand in there lad. Can have fingers off them buggers"

 

Walked to the other end of the shop to look at a job, walked back and the silly sod is stood there with blood streaming out of the side of his hand.

 

All I could say was "what can yer do when yer shoes let wather in?"

 

It's instinctive (and completely indecipherable to Australians).

 

 

Did you sack him for gross stupidity/negligence?

 

He was told not to do it, but still went ahead with blatant disregard for safety.

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