Fucking hell, sounds grim. So far we are hearing 27 dead (unconfirmed) and an Aussie involved (some sort of white supremacist terror cell). 3 blokes and a woman arrested so far - rumours of vehicles found around the area fitted with IED's.

 

51 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

You can't unsee something like that.

true, but to be honest, I think I've become quite immune to it. I watched both videos, and thought "meh" and then went and made a cup of tea and then set about doing a bit of work

 

maybe I need to go and see someone

1 minute ago, Sweep said:

true, but to be honest, I think I've become quite immune to it. I watched both videos, and thought "meh" and then went and made a cup of tea and then set about doing a bit of work

 

maybe I need to go and see someone

Aye, some fucker with a big gun!

13 minutes ago, Roger_Dubuis said:

The opinion of the Senator for Queensland

 

"The real cause of bloodshed on New Zealand streets today is the immigration program which allowed Muslim fanatics to migrate to New Zealand in the first place"

 

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1rtfLMXgAAqHit.jpg

blimey....although in all fairness, he is an actual out and out Nazi, and he's not ashamed to admit it

7 minutes ago, deane koontz said:

Wasn't the killer Australian?

yes, but he couldn't have killed the Muslims if they weren't there in the first place

2 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

Please remove that shite.....

No don't.

Stuff like this needs to be debated. 

By preventing debate, complete fucking nutters like this just get more oxygen.

It's so typical that common sense and a middle ground approach seems to get lost when these events occur.

7 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

Please remove that shite.....

Why?

10 minutes ago, royal white said:

Why?

Indeed. 

Fucking idiots like that need to be exposed. 

2 hours ago, briannz said:

4 have been arrested 3 men 1 woman.Went into 2 mosques and opened fire on women kids and anyone else who was .there,they say they were right wing white supremacy.

Their cars also had IED`s attatched to they managed to de arm them.

Never thought out like this would happen here it’s tragic.

NZ seems to be a tolerant, easy going country which makes this attack more shocking. Have there been any problems from, or ill feeling towards, the muslim population ?

& i certainly won't be watching the video.

13 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

No don't.

Stuff like this needs to be debated. 

By preventing debate, complete fucking nutters like this just get more oxygen.

It's so typical that common sense and a middle ground approach seems to get lost when these events occur.

Perhaps so, but this is not the time or place IMHO. 

1 minute ago, bwfcfan5 said:

Perhaps so, but this is not the time or place IMHO. 

Agreed. The link is useful, for providing a bit of context and perhaps feeling in the region.

Beyond that, discussion is for another time.

1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Agreed. The link is useful, for providing a bit of context and perhaps feeling in the region.

Beyond that, discussion is for another time.

I don't think it is - an offensive right wing extremist politician from Australia taking a moment of opportunism does not represent NZ. 

Just now, bwfcfan5 said:

I don't think it is - an offensive right wing extremist politician from Australia taking a moment of opportunism does not represent NZ. 

I think his point was made because the terrorist was an Aussie.

Aussie shooter was a former communist/Anarchist/Libertarian Eco-Terrorist Left Wing Looney.

 

10 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

Perhaps so, but this is not the time or place IMHO. 

Its opinion, however bigoted and wrong it  is that’s what he feels. Use it an an aid.

Just now, royal white said:

Its opinion, however bigoted and wrong it  is that’s what he feels. Use it an an aid.

An aid to what?

3 hours ago, briannz said:

4 have been arrested 3 men 1 woman.Went into 2 mosques and opened fire on women kids and anyone else who was .there,they say they were right wing white supremacy.

Their cars also had IED`s attatched to they managed to de arm them.

Never thought out like this would happen here it’s tragic.

I’ve just been reading about the gun laws in NZ and they appear to be quite relaxed. 

How relaxed are they mate? 

3 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

An aid to what?

A teaching aid. If it’s just brushed under the table/deleted then how are we supposed to educate others? 

Just now, royal white said:

A teaching aid. If it’s just brushed under the table/deleted then how are we supposed to educate others? 

Its more dangerous to spread the views of a man who was thrown out of his party for publicly calling for a "final solution" to the "Islam problem". I'm not convinced we should bother with people like him. What we need to do is avoid those who are too easily influenced (like the terrorists today potentially) from coming across these sorts of extreme views. We are in danger in this world to allowing these sorts of blatant racists becoming legitimised and one of the ways that happens is allowing their voice a wide platform...social media echo chambers clearly a big contributor here. 

2 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

Its more dangerous to spread the views of a man who was thrown out of his party for publicly calling for a "final solution" to the "Islam problem". I'm not convinced we should bother with people like him. What we need to do is avoid those who are too easily influenced (like the terrorists today potentially) from coming across these sorts of extreme views. We are in danger in this world to allowing these sorts of blatant racists becoming legitimised and one of the ways that happens is allowing their voice a wide platform...social media echo chambers clearly a big contributor here. 

It’s all over the MSM. It’s hardly a secret 

2 minutes ago, royal white said:

It’s all over the MSM. It’s hardly a secret 

Which is a huge part of the problem...but that's for another day. 

My daughter is in NZ at the moment filming a TV ad and thankfully no where near this atrocity but you never stop worrying about them

Sad and horrific news, why cant folk just let other folk live in peace. RIP.

He's not a lefty, righty, commie, hippie or anything, he's a fucking lunatic.

Just the same as anyone who goes on a shooting spree.

If it wasn't muslims he'd got worked up about, the chances are he'd have eventually shot someone.

Same as all terrorists, they're utter crackpots who've just found a conduit for their mentalism.

I do agree that political labeling of terrorists doesn't help.

Evil, mental bastards.

3 hours ago, Freddie Hill said:

Aussie shooter was a former communist/Anarchist/Libertarian Eco-Terrorist Left Wing Looney.

 

He likened himself to Oswald Mosley so I would say that is fairly far right?