A thought just popped into my head- out of the founder members who has played the most league games?

Won't be Everton as they've played so much top flight stuff. Probably true with Villa.

Accrington went tits up so not them.

Notts country been out of the league so maybe not them. 

Other lancs clubs and midlands clubs been in and out of the top leagues do hard to guess.

Dunno if there's a website but it would be interesting to know.

Guesses?

My guess would be one of the clubs which has spent the longest period in the lower leagues.

Any club to have competed in the Premier League would be at a disadvantage due to the league having seven fewer matches per season.

Preston North End?

Just now, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

My guess would be one of the clubs which has spent the longest period in the lower leagues.

Any club to have competed in the Premier League would be at a disadvantage due to the league having seven fewer matches per season.

Preston North End?

Choose any prize from the top shelf

Bury in there, bloody hell.

What a shit state of affairs clubs with so much history can vanish.

8 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

My guess would be one of the clubs which has spent the longest period in the lower leagues.

Any club to have competed in the Premier League would be at a disadvantage due to the league having seven fewer matches per season.

Preston North End?

That's what I was getting at, but wondered if Blackpool might have the honour.

Complicated obviously by the change in structure in the "second" division. 

We've all had our share of time in the top flight too.

The link was two and a half years ago.

Of those teams above us, apart from Notts county, they've all being playing in a higher league and therefore fewer games in that short space of time.

We must be catching them up slowly!

22 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said:

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Wahey!

17 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

That's what I was getting at, but wondered if Blackpool might have the honour.

Complicated obviously by the change in structure in the "second" division. 

We've all had our share of time in the top flight too.

Seeing as Blackpool weren't a founder member that's highly unlikely!

Doh.

So without, checking (someone will) who would you guess be for the club we have played most times in league games?

I'm going Blackburn Rovers or Fulham.

 

 

Of the founder members I will go for a bit of an outside bet with Wolves.

Remember our 4th division days, we were around each other then!

Overall- complete guess- Huddersfield. 

1 hour ago, Leyther_Matt said:

Choose any prize from the top shelf

Great stats. Is there a similar one for Bolton?

43 minutes ago, Whitestar said:

So without, checking (someone will) who would you guess be for the club we have played most times in league games?

I'm going Blackburn Rovers or Fulham.

 

 

Sure it's Fulham

Yeah played them every week in the 70s, sometimes twice a week.

Whatever the answer is then that is is the type of club that we realistically are a similar club to. Its ok thinking we are massive every where we go, nothing wrong with that but just hoping the answer isn't like Luton Town for example.

Bolton Wanderers F.C. league record by opponent

Club	Home				Away				Total						Win%	First	Last	Note(s)
	P	W	D	L	P	W	D	L	P	W	D	L	F	A
Aston Villa	78	39	18	21	78	17	19	42	156	56	37	63	240	251	35.90	1888–89	2018–19
Blackburn Rovers	78	42	18	18	78	22	16	40	156	64	34	58	233	241	41.03	1888–89	2018–19
Everton	69	27	13	29	69	10	18	41	138	37	31	70	181	229	26.81	1888–89	2011–12
Sunderland	69	37	17	15	69	11	16	42	138	48	33	57	196	230	34.78	1890–91	2021–22
West Bromwich Albion	68	32	20	16	68	16	24	28	136	48	44	44	216	194	35.29	1888–89	2018–19
Birmingham City	64	35	19	10	64	16	15	33	128	51	34	43	197	168	39.84	1894–95	2018–19	[b]
Derby County	64	33	9	22	63	8	14	41	127	41	23	63	182	230	32.28	1888–89	2022–23
Wolverhampton Wanderers	63	35	13	15	63	14	12	37	126	49	25	52	189	226	38.89	1888–89	2017–18
Preston North End	62	26	13	23	62	17	20	25	124	43	33	48	175	181	34.68	1888–89	2018–19
Middlesbrough	60	34	16	10	60	16	12	32	120	50	28	42	187	180	41.67	1899–1900	2018–19
Arsenal	59	28	16	15	59	7	16	36	118	35	32	51	158	210	29.66	1899–1900	2011–12	[a]
Burnley	59	27	17	15	59	14	14	31	118	41	31	46	159	162	34.75	1888–89	2015–16
Liverpool	59	26	13	20	59	10	16	33	118	36	29	53	142	191	30.51	1894–95	2011–12
Manchester United	59	25	15	19	59	16	10	33	118	41	25	52	156	192	34.75	1892–93	2011–12	[g]
Sheffield United	57	35	12	10	57	12	10	35	114	47	22	45	187	193	41.23	1893–94	2018–19
Sheffield Wednesday	57	27	15	15	56	11	11	34	113	38	26	49	137	180	33.63	1892–93	2022–23
Manchester City	56	28	15	13	56	13	10	33	112	41	25	46	168	171	36.61	1900–01	2011–12
Newcastle United	56	29	12	15	56	12	7	37	112	41	19	52	145	195	36.61	1898–99	2011–12
Chelsea	54	22	14	18	54	12	13	29	108	34	27	47	155	181	31.48	1907–08	2011–12
Portsmouth	48	32	7	9	48	8	15	25	96	40	22	34	144	118	41.67	1927–28	2021–22
Blackpool	47	24	12	11	47	11	18	18	94	35	30	29	133	113	37.23	1903–04	2019–20
Huddersfield Town	46	27	10	9	46	11	9	26	92	38	19	35	131	112	41.30	1910–11	2015–16
Tottenham Hotspur	44	25	7	12	44	9	7	28	88	34	14	40	120	140	38.64	1908–09	2011–12
Charlton Athletic	44	29	9	6	43	12	10	21	87	41	19	27	146	105	47.13	1936–37	2022–23
Fulham	41	19	13	9	41	9	11	21	82	28	24	30	98	114	34.15	1908–09	2017–18
Nottingham Forest	41	23	13	5	41	7	10	24	82	30	23	29	120	122	36.59	1892–93	2018–19
Stoke City	41	20	13	8	41	12	7	22	82	32	20	30	117	128	39.02	1888–89	2018–19	[i]
Notts County	37	21	7	9	37	10	13	14	74	31	20	23	119	87	41.89	1888–89	1994–95
Cardiff City	36	23	6	7	36	13	6	17	72	36	12	24	114	71	50.00	1921–22	2017–18
Leicester City	32	17	8	7	32	6	11	15	64	23	19	22	113	102	35.94	1899–1900	2013–14	[e]
Bury	31	16	5	10	31	7	9	15	62	23	14	25	98	95	37.10	1895–96	2016–17
Leeds United	30	14	7	9	30	7	6	17	60	21	13	26	103	97	35.00	1924–25	2018–19
Bristol City	29	13	8	8	29	4	8	17	58	17	16	25	65	91	29.31	1903–04	2018–19
Grimsby Town	28	13	8	7	28	8	10	10	56	21	18	17	86	72	37.50	1899–1900	2020–21
West Ham United	28	21	4	3	28	9	4	15	56	30	8	18	110	82	53.57	1923–24	2010–11
Hull City	24	15	7	2	24	4	8	12	48	19	15	14	58	55	39.58	1908–09	2018–19
Oldham Athletic	24	18	3	3	24	5	9	10	48	23	12	13	85	58	47.92	1908–09	2020–21
Bradford City	22	10	8	4	22	4	8	10	44	14	16	14	70	66	31.82	1903–04	2020–21
Ipswich Town	21	5	8	8	21	6	4	11	42	11	12	19	52	57	26.19	1961–62	2022–23	[d]
Leyton Orient	21	15	4	2	21	4	7	10	42	19	11	12	47	40	45.24	1908–09	2020–21	[f]
Norwich City	21	11	5	5	21	3	4	14	42	14	9	19	49	54	33.33	1934–35	2018–19
Barnsley	20	11	7	2	20	6	7	7	40	17	14	9	72	46	42.50	1899–1900	2022–23
Brentford	20	9	4	7	20	2	5	13	40	11	9	20	46	65	27.50	1933–34	2018–19
Millwall	20	14	3	3	20	3	4	13	40	17	7	16	56	50	42.50	1933–34	2018–19
Wigan Athletic	20	7	6	7	20	5	7	8	40	12	13	15	52	51	30.00	1983–84	2021–22
Rotherham United	19	8	6	5	20	1	6	13	39	9	12	18	40	71	23.08	1964–65	2021–22	[d]
Crystal Palace	18	10	7	1	18	3	8	7	36	13	15	8	51	36	36.11	1964–65	2012–13
Port Vale	17	14	2	1	18	9	8	1	35	23	10	2	71	27	65.71	1899–1900	2022–23	[h]
Queens Park Rangers	17	9	4	4	17	6	1	10	34	15	5	14	54	55	44.12	1967–68	2018–19
Reading	16	7	6	3	16	4	3	9	32	11	9	12	39	41	34.38	1984–85	2018–19
Southampton	16	8	5	3	16	6	5	5	32	14	10	8	44	30	43.75	1933–34	2004–05
Swansea City	16	7	7	2	16	3	3	10	32	10	10	12	31	38	31.25	1933–34	2018–19	[j]
Bristol Rovers	16	8	6	2	15	4	4	7	31	12	10	9	42	31	38.71	1971–72	2022–23
Plymouth Argyle	15	10	1	4	16	4	1	11	31	14	2	15	49	45	45.16	1933–34	2022–23
Luton Town	15	9	3	3	15	4	5	6	30	13	8	9	45	31	43.33	1899–1900	1994–95
Carlisle United	13	7	2	4	13	2	4	7	26	9	6	11	35	37	34.62	1965–66	2020–21
Oxford United	14	6	4	4	12	4	4	4	26	10	8	8	32	32	38.46	1968–69	2022–23	[d]
Tranmere Rovers	13	9	2	2	13	2	6	5	26	11	8	7	31	29	42.31	1971–72	2020–21
Watford	13	8	1	4	13	2	3	8	26	10	4	12	33	36	38.46	1969–70	2014–15
Bournemouth	13	5	3	5	11	4	1	6	24	9	4	11	26	30	37.50	1971–72	2014–15
Shrewsbury Town	11	6	2	3	11	6	1	4	22	12	3	7	29	23	54.55	1971–72	2022–23	[d]
Walsall	11	9	1	1	11	0	3	8	22	9	4	9	41	31	40.91	1899–1900	2020–21
Lincoln City	10	6	1	3	11	3	4	4	21	9	5	7	31	24	42.86	1899–1900	2022–23	[d]
Chesterfield	10	8	1	1	10	2	4	4	20	10	5	5	34	18	50.00	1899–1900	2016–17	[c]
Swindon Town	10	5	1	4	10	4	3	3	20	9	4	7	38	26	45.00	1964–65	2016–17
Southend United	10	6	3	1	9	4	2	3	19	10	5	4	27	18	52.63	1972–73	2020–21	[d]
Coventry City	9	2	4	3	9	1	6	2	18	3	10	5	23	28	16.67	1964–65	2019–20
Stockport County	9	3	3	3	9	3	2	4	18	6	5	7	23	23	33.33	1903–04	2000–01
Cambridge United	8	4	3	1	9	2	4	3	17	6	7	4	30	22	35.29	1980–81	2022–23
Gillingham	8	3	2	3	9	4	1	4	17	7	3	7	29	24	41.18	1983–84	2021–22	[d]
Brighton & Hove Albion	8	2	3	3	8	1	2	5	16	3	5	8	16	25	18.75	1971–72	2015–16
Mansfield Town	8	3	4	1	8	3	3	2	16	6	7	3	18	16	37.50	1971–72	2020–21
Bradford (Park Avenue)	7	3	0	4	7	3	1	3	14	6	1	7	18	20	42.86	1908–09	1934–35
Crewe Alexandra	7	3	3	1	7	3	2	2	14	6	5	3	28	21	42.86	1987–88	2021–22
York City	7	3	2	2	7	4	1	2	14	7	3	4	21	14	50.00	1971–72	1986–87
Doncaster Rovers	6	5	0	1	7	3	1	3	13	8	1	4	22	12	61.54	1904–05	2021–22	[d]
Exeter City	7	5	0	2	6	1	4	1	13	6	4	3	21	14	46.15	1983–84	2022–23
Chester City	6	3	2	1	6	2	3	1	12	5	5	2	13	6	41.67	1986–87	1992–93
Newport County	6	3	0	3	6	3	0	3	12	6	0	6	23	15	50.00	1983–84	2020–21
Peterborough United	6	5	1	0	6	2	0	4	12	7	1	4	21	12	58.33	1987–88	2022–23	[d]
Accrington	5	2	1	2	5	3	0	2	10	5	1	4	29	19	50.00	1888–89	1892–93
Gainsborough Trinity	5	5	0	0	5	1	1	3	10	6	1	3	27	8	60.00	1899–1900	1910–11
Northampton Town	5	2	1	2	5	3	0	2	10	5	1	4	12	15	50.00	1964–65	2016–17
Rochdale	5	3	1	1	5	0	3	2	10	3	4	3	12	14	30.00	1971–72	2019–20
Scunthorpe United	5	2	3	0	5	1	2	2	10	3	5	2	7	5	30.00	1972–73	2020–21
Wrexham	5	3	1	1	5	4	0	1	10	7	1	2	14	7	70.00	1971–72	1987–88
Milton Keynes Dons	4	2	2	0	5	1	1	3	9	3	3	3	11	10	33.33	2015–16	2022–23
Darlington	4	2	1	1	4	2	0	2	8	4	1	3	11	11	50.00	1985–86	1991–92
Glossop North End	4	3	0	1	4	3	1	0	8	6	1	1	19	6	75.00	1903–04	1910–11
Wimbledon	4	3	1	0	4	1	1	2	8	4	2	2	9	9	50.00	1983–84	2000–01
Burton Albion	4	1	1	2	3	0	1	2	7	1	2	4	8	13	14.29	2017–18	2022–23
AFC Wimbledon	3	1	2	0	3	1	2	0	6	2	4	0	12	7	33.33	2016–17	2021–22
Fleetwood Town	3	3	0	0	3	2	0	1	6	5	0	1	14	10	83.33	2016–17	2022–23	[d]
Halifax Town	3	2	1	0	3	1	2	0	6	3	3	0	8	2	50.00	1971–72	1987–88
Hartlepool United	3	0	1	2	3	2	1	0	6	2	2	2	10	6	33.33	1987–88	1992–93
Torquay United	3	2	0	1	3	0	1	2	6	2	1	3	6	7	33.33	1971–72	1991–92
Accrington Stanley	2	1	1	0	3	1	0	2	5	2	1	2	7	11	40.00	2019–20	2022–23
Cheltenham Town	2	0	2	0	3	2	0	1	5	2	2	1	6	5	40.00	2020–21	2022–23
Morecambe	3	1	2	0	2	1	1	0	5	2	3	0	5	3	40.00	2020–21	2022–23
Wycombe Wanderers	3	1	0	2	2	0	0	2	5	1	0	4	3	7	20.00	2019–20	2022–23
Burton United	2	2	0	0	2	1	0	1	4	3	0	1	12	3	75.00	1903–04	1904–05
Colchester United	2	1	1	0	2	0	0	2	4	1	1	2	4	4	25.00	1987–88	2020–21
Darwen	2	2	0	0	2	2	0	0	4	4	0	0	7	2	100.00	1891–92	1893–94
Hereford United	2	2	0	0	2	1	1	0	4	3	1	0	10	4	75.00	1976–77	1987–88
Leeds City	2	2	0	0	2	1	0	1	4	3	0	1	7	2	75.00	1908–09	1910–11
Forest Green Rovers	1	0	0	1	2	1	0	1	3	1	0	2	1	2	33.33	2020–21	2022–23
Aldershot	1	1	0	0	1	1	0	0	2	2	0	0	4	0	100.00	1988–89	1988–89
Barrow	1	1	0	0	1	0	1	0	2	1	1	0	4	3	50.00	2020–21	2020–21
Burton Swifts	1	1	0	0	1	1	0	0	2	2	0	0	10	2	100.00	1899–1900	1899–1900
Crawley Town	1	0	0	1	1	1	0	0	2	1	0	1	4	2	50.00	2020–21	2020–21
Harrogate Town	1	1	0	0	1	1	0	0	2	2	0	0	4	2	100.00	2020–21	2020–21
Loughborough	1	1	0	0	1	1	0	0	2	2	0	0	10	2	100.00	1899–1900	1899–1900
New Brighton Tower	1	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	2	1	0	1	3	4	50.00	1899–1900	1899–1900
Salford City	1	1	0	0	1	1	0	0	2	2	0	0	3	0	100.00	2020–21	2020–21
Scarborough	1	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	2	1	0	1	3	5	50.00	1987–88	1987–88
Stevenage	1	1	0	0	1	1	0	0	2	2	0	0	3	1	100.00	2020–21	2020–21
Yeovil Town	1	0	1	0	1	0	1	0	2	0	2	0	3	3	0.00	2013–14	2013–14

55 minutes ago, Whitestar said:

So without, checking (someone will) who would you guess be for the club we have played most times in league games?

I'm going Blackburn Rovers or Fulham.

 

 

 

11 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Sure it's Fulham

Am sure we've had this before and it's them 

 

Just checked it and 1st of August 2025 will be exactly 50,000 days since the day of the very first matches. They could do summat for that if they realise. Or a good day to launch a new book on league history. We'd get plenty of mentions after all.

58 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Sure it's Fulham

Nowhere near according to that Wiki table. I suppose Villa and Blackburn will have had at least a 20 year head start. 

1 minute ago, Leyther_Matt said:

Nowhere near according to that Wiki table. I suppose Villa and Blackburn will have had at least a 20 year head start. 

Ah yeah never thought of that.

Would never have guessed Villa.

A surprising number of "odd numbers". Seasons buggered up by war?

I’m I reading it right we have better records against everyone till Ipswich on that list?

Ive no recollection of playing Ipswich before that cup match in 94. Never heard one spoke about either.

18 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

A surprising number of "odd numbers". Seasons buggered up by war?

Check it again....

 

20 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Ive no recollection of playing Ipswich before that cup match in 94. Never heard one spoke about either.

The Worthy wonder goal was v Ipswich.

10 hours ago, Whitestar said:

The Worthy wonder goal was v Ipswich.

Ah yeah. Silly boy.