Sorry if this has been mentioned elsewhere, RIP Ms Widdecombe, a character of politics, no 78 year old woman deserves to suffer the horrendous death she apparently suffered, I met her when she was prison minister and she was very staff orientated but also campaigned for prisoners to be treated fairly

15 minutes ago, Zico said:

found the article, it's from GB News, will watch it shortly

What a surprise! 😂

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

There are clips (and full video) of a group of experts in the EU discussing the potential for civil war.

Eoin Linehan, David Betz, and another chap o don't know the name of, explaining how we got here, and the likelihood.

Extremely stark, with the experts saying the UK, Ireland and Sweden are the most likely to go first, and that would trigger other nations to follow.

I would imagine France wouldn't be too far behind.

You really need to work out how to change the TV channel, you gullible moron.

41 minutes ago, Zico said:

what does a civil war look like

"I say, old bean, would you mind terribly if I were to take a pot shot at you."

"Not at all my good man."

59 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Have you any thoughts on it? I've shared mine

Just now, athywhite1958 said:

Have you any thoughts on it? I've shared mine

None whatsoever.

2 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

There are clips (and full video) of a group of experts in the EU discussing the potential for civil war.

Eoin Linehan, David Betz, and another chap o don't know the name of, explaining how we got here, and the likelihood.

Extremely stark, with the experts saying the UK, Ireland and Sweden are the most likely to go first, and that would trigger other nations to follow.

I would imagine France wouldn't be too far behind.

I'l think it's fair to say they are fringe opinions

https://ukandeu.ac.uk/civil-war-in-the-uk-nightmare-or-far-right-fantasy/

2 hours ago, athywhite1958 said:

I don't believe this for one minute, are we meant to believe a bloke drives 267 miles to kill a random old woman for no apparent reason?

Maybe he knew her

Maybe he knew the bloke who was originally arrested, who was local, and the latter tipped the police off

Could be all sorts of reasons

2 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said:

Maybe he knew the bloke who was originally arrested, who was local, and the latter tipped the police off

Could be all sorts of reasons

Don't worry, Bolty and Athy are on the case.

2 hours ago, athywhite1958 said:

I don't believe this for one minute, are we meant to believe a bloke drives 267 miles to kill a random old woman for no apparent reason?

She's not a random old woman though?

Remember Victoria Wood's Christmas Special of 2000?

It ended with the Ann Widdecombe Song.

(Can someone with the skill set post the Youtube video?)

13 minutes ago, MalcolmW said:

Remember Victoria Wood's Christmas Special of 2000?

It ended with the Ann Widdecombe Song.

(Can someone with the skill set post the Youtube video?)

Counter terrorism ploice now leading the investigation after new information comes to light

The suspect has apparently been rearrested on terrorism charges

Edited 11 hours ago11 hr by Lt. Aldo Raine

4 hours ago, mickbrown said:

The prick

X (formerly Twitter)

Old Gassy (@OldGassy1984) on X

"So, Nigel, we want you just to walk along this road in the style of any completely normal human being." "Completely normal?" "Yes, that's right -- completely normal."

It really made me laugh this

To be fair, I'd probably be exactly the same

Tbf explains why people speculating does not help

The Police are releasing whatever information they can when available.

4 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

There are clips (and full video) of a group of experts in the EU discussing the potential for civil war.

Eoin Linehan, David Betz, and another chap o don't know the name of, explaining how we got here, and the likelihood.

Extremely stark, with the experts saying the UK, Ireland and Sweden are the most likely to go first, and that would trigger other nations to follow.

I would imagine France wouldn't be too far behind.

so I've watched the video

the thumbnail, title and into are very sensationalist

"months from civil war"

that betz guy suggests civil war like in the Balkans and Sarajevo where organised groups target infrastructure in what he called ethnic enclaves, blowing up petrol stations and cutting power

that's not happening

and the French and Irish guys who follow say the same thing, that's it's not going to happen

that it'll be civil unrest like we've seen so far may last longer with more dire consequences

so not civil war

2 hours ago, Cheese said:

Don't worry, Bolty and Athy are on the case.

Fuck off you condescending prick, I gave an opinion, you don't agree, that's fine, we are all entitled to our opinions

47 minutes ago, athywhite1958 said:

Fuck off you condescending prick, I gave an opinion, you don't agree, that's fine, we are all entitled to our opinions

Get to fuck, you thick old racist ghoul.

Any civil unrest will be enflamed by Billionaire (trillionaire?) tech giants from across the pond and idiots will lap it up. Twitter, Instagram etc need binning. The biggest danger to democracy the world has known since fuckin Hitler.

What happened to Ann Widdecombe (sp?) was despicable and her killer and anybody linked with it needs to be punished with the utmost severity to 1) keep the peace and 2) stop people from political point scoring but fuck me we live in dangerous times and most of that danger is coming from incredibly powerful individuals trying to exert their political will onto the world for their own disgusting gains

6 hours ago, kent_white said:

No - but I think we're in a particularly difficult position here.

Post colonial, post Brexit, lack of a clear vision about what type of country we want to be, disfunctional political class, divided populations, hugely diminished armed forces, begining to see the first tangible effects of global warming etc and so on and so forth.

Maybe it's the same everywhere - but I just notice it more here because this is where I live.

Fair enough. Can't argue with that. I see it in many places.

Edited 9 hours ago9 hr by bolty58

6 hours ago, wakey said:

Ah yes, the good old days of Hillsborough and Orgreave.

Charge!!!!!!!!

You're right about Hillsborough. Scousers played a blinder being judged to be completely free of blame.

4 hours ago, kent_white said:

I'l think it's fair to say they are fringe opinions

https://ukandeu.ac.uk/civil-war-in-the-uk-nightmare-or-far-right-fantasy/

"Far right fantasy". Can't decide whether to use 'fiddling whilst Rome burns' or 'the boy who cried wolf' or 'head in the sand'.

I'll combine the three just as long as the net result doesn't come out as 'fiddling with boys in the sand'.

1 hour ago, Zico said:

so I've watched the video

the thumbnail, title and into are very sensationalist

"months from civil war"

that betz guy suggests civil war like in the Balkans and Sarajevo where organised groups target infrastructure in what he called ethnic enclaves, blowing up petrol stations and cutting power

that's not happening

and the French and Irish guys who follow say the same thing, that's it's not going to happen

that it'll be civil unrest like we've seen so far may last longer with more dire consequences

so not civil war

Not months no. It will come though.

1 hour ago, athywhite1958 said:

Fuck off you condescending prick, I gave an opinion, you don't agree, that's fine, we are all entitled to our opinions

He truly is a fucking moron. Apologies, he prefers the term 'thicko'.

43 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Get to fuck, you thick old racist ghoul.

old, yes, thick racist ghoul? you need to get your facts right, oh it doesn't matter because you make everything up like one of your fantasies

12 minutes ago, athywhite1958 said:

old, yes, thick racist ghoul? you need to get your facts right, oh it doesn't matter because you make everything up like one of your fantasies

Superb post.