Elmander Off, McCann on

its certainly the last 3 missed, we've missed every Pen we've had since BSA left (purely a co-incidence)

nothing pisses me off more than missed pens, golden opportunity that you cannot afford to waste at this level of football. think we played well but all for nowt now.

Spot on.

 

We were the better side today. Newcastle only had 15 minutes today, which was after our penalty miss. After those 15 minutes, we then looked the better side and could have got a draw.

I'm not too disappointed with the game result today. I think Elmander todays only went off with a dead leg or a minor injury which shouldn't keep him out. We seemed to deal well with Newcastle going forward. St James's park is a very tough place to go to, it was their 1st home game of the season and we restricted them to only a few chances but also created several goalscoring opportunities of our own (even without Elmander).

 

I'm disappointed with Riga not coming on earlier than he did. Waiting until the 85th minute when your 1-0 down is a bit sill yas you've nothing to loose, although i personally would liked to hae seen him come on when Elmander went off - moving Davies into the centre and playing Riga on the wide right where Davies was playing.

 

I think Taylor must have had another dissappointing game as he came off early in the 2nd half for Gardner. I was hoping Taylor would be taking our penalties as he is the only recognised player in the team who can take them (i've never seen Davies take a pen before ever!), although i'm sure Elmander would have taken it had he been on. We missed a few good chances towards the end with Davies and Nolan twice going close.

 

I think where we come this season will be judged on our home form and nicking the odd points away by being solid, tough to break down on the road and hoping to get teams on the break or from set pieces. With West Brom loosing at home today (2 defeats on the trot for them) hopefully their confidence will be knocked a bit and we can pick up 3 points against them. I think with some of the players in their team in the middle and the suspect defending from the today we should be looking to overpower them.

 

We have a game against Northampton on Tuesday in the League Cup. Hoping to see some of the fringe/new players i.e. Shittu, Dzemaili, Riga, Helgusson, Vaz Te etc having a run out and putting in good performances to challenge for next week. If Elmander is fit i think it would be good for him to play and get more minuted under his belt and maybe getting on the score sheet and building more confidence

sorry but thats 3 points chucked away on balance of play missed chances etc,penalty practice on monday think thats 3 of last five missed. and who the fcuk are newcastle, i will tell you nobody, nearly relegated last year. manu arsenal liverpool chelsea etc they are not, if you start writing games off against teams like this you will be fooked.

 

not as close as you lot were

Shit happens, we'll play worse and get points. Better teams will go and get nowt there, just chalk it up and move on. Stoke and West Brom were the 2 that mattered most out of the Aug fixtures.

not as close as you lot were

 

correct you are,

 

but dont take away the fact that we should go to your place looking for something, and should of got something from the game today.

Shit happens, we'll play worse and get points. Better teams will go and get nowt there, just chalk it up and move on. Stoke and West Brom were the 2 that mattered most out of the Aug fixtures.

 

 

 

correct. you lot seem full of doom and gloom, i reckon you'll be a decent side this year, don't think you'll be anywhere near going down.

Can someone please explain when you can select any 3 from 7 subs why one of them is not a striker ? Once Elmender went off after 15 min we settled for lets keep a clean sheet and try and pinch summat, one of the reasons that i and many other adult season ticket holders have not renewed is this safety first negative policy that prevails. 12 teams every week set out first and foremost not to lose and get to the 40 points mark by any method possible. A earlier post about a new signing from Torino is probably accurate as he is another defensive midfield player. One for Jonathon or any other stats man has Nobby ever taken a pen before ?

correct you are,

 

but dont take away the fact that we should go to your place looking for something, and should of got something from the game today.

the way you set up at our place, on a regular basis, would suggest you never come for more than a point. i think you've only beaten us once at st james' at 25 years.

 

i agree, a draw would have been fair today however

Can someone please explain when you can select any 3 from 7 subs why one of them is not a striker

Perhaps because as things stand, Megson doesn't believe we have another striker that can hack it in the Premier League - that opens up another question though

Spot on.

 

We were the better side today. Newcastle only had 15 minutes today, which was after our penalty miss. After those 15 minutes, we then looked the better side and could have got a draw.

 

almost word for word what the Stoke fans were saying last week. And just as pointless, performances dont get you points, taking your chances do.

12 teams every week set out first and foremost not to lose and get to the 40 points mark by any method possible.

Has this not been the case every season for the last 10 years? - because of the financial implications of dropping down a division, it will unfortunately remain that way as well. As for people not renewing season tickets, it'll probably continue season upon season, not just with Bolton Wanderers, but for a lot of other teams in the top division. Whilst the clubs can generate ?35M+ from the TV deal, they probably don't give a toss if you, I or anybody else renews or not.

Riga is supposed to be a striker/winger and was on the bench.Not trusting him to be sent on so early in the game doesn't inspire confidence in his abilities.

Must admit, as soon as I heard that Elmander had gone off, I just presumed that Riga would have come on, I don't know why he didn't. I would imagine that we will get the opportunity to see how good Riga is, or isn't, on Tuesday night

F?cking hell, doom and gloom on this thread or what. Newcastle away, first away game of the season, can't really expect much anyway at the best of times; a 1-0 defeat is probably expected.

 

Stop talking sense, you'll upset those on suicide watch

with 15 mins gone... Megson throws on an unproven player like Riga in an away game. Bolton get beat 3-0 because the system doesn't work properly and Riga isn't up to the pace yet... Bolton fans bitch because Megson didn't throw on an experienced midfield to sure things up and keep solid.

 

He made the right call. We created chances. Samuel/Nolan/Davies didn't take them. That's why we lost, not because of Megson.

well made point that Tyler

Riga isn't fit.

 

Helguson is no-where approaching being match-fit.

 

Vaz Te is shit.

 

This is why McCann came on. I'd hope that if one of the players we're in for is a striker.

with 15 mins gone... Megson throws on an unproven player like Riga in an away game. Bolton get beat 3-0 because the system doesn't work properly and Riga isn't up to the pace yet... Bolton fans bitch because Megson didn't throw on an experienced midfield to sure things up and keep solid.

 

He made the right call. We created chances. Samuel/Nolan/Davies didn't take them. That's why we lost, not because of Megson.

 

Well said Mister Durden

 

Had nolan scored from that penalty things could've been much much different. And megson praised for a solid away performance.

 

I knew as soonas GMR announced the sub of Elmander for McCann that if we didn't win megson would be slated for negativity

Two points

 

1.If a Bolton side with a midfield as negative as O'Brien/Nolan/Muamba and Taylor had lost 3-0 to a mediocre side like Newcastle it would have been a shocking result.

 

2.The result determines whether a manager made the right call.We got beat.

 

so and attacking midfielder an someone who spent most of last season as part of a front 3 makes it a negative midfield?

Just been reading on SSN that Elmander went off with a hamstring strain + Taylor went off with a toe injury. Hopefully neither are serious injuries. Don't mind them not playing on Tuesday but we will def need them in for the WBA game. Elmander is our main goalscorer and Taylor is the guy who we rely on at set pieces and crosses from the left wing.

i'd predicted a 2-0 loss so i'm not too fussed!

 

Newcastle away is always a tough game especially if thje place is in a possitive modd so 3 points against teh Baggies and we can continue with the season and forget all about today

Football must be up shit creek in the North West. The last comment will be all the more apt given GMR covered the Gay Parade in M/Cr rather than first half of Toon vs Bolton.

 

When they did cover it, the second. Said we'd been the better side till the penalty miss. Toon then had the better of the next 15 mins which concurs what has already been said. Nolan missed a great chance to equalise this after Milner should have put the game out of reach. However Davies scored in the 88th but was disallowed, I hope they show it on MOTD as neither Jack Dearden & Alan Gowling could say why & they'd watched it again on the replay.

 

From talking to friends at the game, Nolan's miss brought the crowd into the game & nothing changes games like goals. Nolan scores & its a different game c'est la vie

Edited August 23, 200817 yr by wovlad

He made the right call. We created chances. Samuel/Nolan/Davies didn't take them. That's why we lost, not because of Megson.

I also agree with this statement.

 

But we still have a problem!

 

What concerns me is we had a problem scoring last season, especially after the sale of Anelka. Megson acknowledges this and has stated it very recently.

 

Unfortunatley [ possibly through no fault of his own ] his solution to this problem appears to be keep saying "we must score more goals in all departments" and hope the same group of players will finish better. I honestly think this is not a solution at all. Once Elmander went off today we basically had last seasons team and we had last seasons finishing! That won't change I'm afraid.

 

Telling players like Samuel, Davies, Taylor, AOB they NEED to score more goals won't work! Not in a million years. For all their pluses they miss sitters and always will. We'll lose a few games like today because of it!

 

Come on you Whites

Edited August 23, 200817 yr by Arnold Jackson

From talking to friends at the game, Nolan's miss brought the crowd into the game & nothing changes games like goals. Nolan scores & its a different game c'est la vie

 

Also penalty misses change games as much as penalties that are scored , we should know 1995 against reading...

Edited August 23, 200817 yr by Dodgywheel

Too many negatives and not enough positives in this thread, keep the faith, its only the second match !