Nethen

 

 

 

I'm no quantum physicist, but I am rather fascinated by this 'ere particle accelerator in Switzerland.

 

 

 

Now, there is a school of thought that says trying to recreate the big bang underneath Geneva is a bit risky ie. the earth, and everything on it will be sucked into a microscopic black hole and compacted to the size of Posh Spice's lunch. Or, better still, most of Europe will disappear in a massive ball of flames and the Champions League fixtures will be massively backlogged for the next 400 seasons or so.

 

 

 

The most likely outcome, however, is that a lot of men with beards will be masturbating furiously because they have found something called the Higgs Bosun. Better known in cardigan-wearing circles as the God particle. The fact that finding this will cost a shade under ?10 billion is of supreme indifference to these people, who will tell us that we are a step closer to understanding the beginnings of the universe.

 

 

 

Now, I think this will divide people straight down the middle. On one side the cynics, who will complain bitterly that such sums of money could feed Africa for a decade rather than be spent on a hugely elaborate microscope. Their argument will be strengthened with the possibilty that we may all end up meeting our maker having been compressed into atomic dust.

 

 

 

On the other side will be those who think such discoveries are the foundation on which the human race must stand to progresss and become better. To understand something so mind-bogglingly complicated could be the key that unlocks the meaning of life. Or at least make Star Trek look feasible.

 

 

 

Me? I can't decide. For now I'm going to see what happens. But if I end up floating around space as a tachyon you can be sure I'll have a frown on my nuetron.

Edited September 8, 200817 yr by Spider

1. If it causes the end of the world, we'll not know owt about it, it'll just happen.

2. If they can afford to spend the money on a big telescope, fair play to them.

 

However, is there a chance that this device can be used in warfare, or adapted for that use? If so, I am out.

 

PS As for feeding Africa, if Geldof had spent the money raised in the 80's on contraception and sexual education, the plight of the starving wouldn't still be as bad as it was 20 yrs ago.

OK, so they find out how we were created.

 

And then what?

 

After a day or two of 'see I told you that book was a f?ckin con, a joiner wont work in the rain let alone walk on f?ckin water', and the odd fruitcake will start somekind of righteous crusade to rid the world of all that is wrong all, but les be honest, all will go back to normal soon enough becuase most right minded folk couldn't care a shiny shit one way or another.

If the world ended on Wednesday, BWFC will have finished in the top eight five out of the last six years of the premiership. Better than any other team outside the 'Big Four'

 

FACT.

Edited September 8, 200817 yr by floyd

If the world ended on Wednesday, BWFC will have finished top eight five out of the last six years of the premiership. Better than any other team outside the 'Big Four'

 

FACT.

 

Scant consolation for impending death, though.

Scant consolation for impending death, though.

 

We'd also finish above the Scum?

We'd also finish above the Scum?

That will ding dong do for me,bring it on.

Isnt this how the world was created?

 

 

Should have gone to Howfen High them lot.

1. If it causes the end of the world, we'll not know owt about it, it'll just happen.

 

actually, some Kraut ćunt has calculated it might take 5 years. Interesting 5 years though

1. If it causes the end of the world, we'll not know owt about it, it'll just happen.

2. If they can afford to spend the money on a big telescope, fair play to them.

 

However, is there a chance that this device can be used in warfare, or adapted for that use? If so, I am out.

PS As for feeding Africa, if Geldof had spent the money raised in the 80's on contraception and sexual education, the plight of the starving wouldn't still be as bad as it was 20 yrs ago.

Unfotunately, this is incorrect.

 

The fact is wherever in the world children live rather than die early in their life (measured by infant motrality rate), then the popluation growth declines

Kids live but population goes down?

 

Surely canabalism isnt that rife. Is there a legal age limit to it, like with smoking?

2. If they can afford to spend the money on a big telescope, fair play to them.

 

By they, do you mean the British tax payer, who paid for 10% of this?

In a way, I'd quite like something catastrophic to happen. The main advantage would be that all the beards would be blown straight into space and we could stop making our brains ache with their plausible yet phenomonally dull theories and findings.

 

And, it would make better telly than 9/11 did.

1. If it causes the end of the world, we'll not know owt about it, it'll just happen.

2. If they can afford to spend the money on a big telescope, fair play to them.

 

However, is there a chance that this device can be used in warfare, or adapted for that use? If so, I am out.

 

PS As for feeding Africa, if Geldof had spent the money raised in the 80's on contraception and sexual education, the plight of the starving wouldn't still be as bad as it was 20 yrs ago.

 

How the hell are we going to achieve that in Africa when, with all the education and contracepetion we have in this country, we can't stop the scum of these islands popping them out. Would rather have a good meal in front of me than a text book and free johnnys.

 

Anyway, this particle excelerator fing. I bet you it all goes pear shape when something that should happen doesn't. Some boffin with a sonic screwdriver will appear on the news saying it will be 12 to 18 months before they can do anything else because Tandy don't have the repacement parts in stock - YHIHF.

Anyroad, should I bother paying any bills this week or will British Gas be sucked into a vortex before my disconnection date?

Anyroad, should I bother paying any bills this week or will British Gas be sucked into a vortex before my disconnection date?

Gas, Leccy? F?ck em, they're loaded aren't they? Hopefully, they'll not notice your thupenny missing.

Wait till the black letter arrives!

Nethen

 

 

 

I'm no quantum physicist, but I am rather fascinated by this 'ere particle accelerator in Switzerland.

 

 

 

Now, there is a school of thought that says trying to recreate the big bang underneath Geneva is a bit risky ie. the earth, and everything on it will be sucked into a microscopic black hole and compacted to the size of Posh Spice's lunch. Or, better still, most of Europe will disappear in a massive ball of flames and the Champions League fixtures will be massively backlogged for the next 400 seasons or so.

 

 

 

The most likely outcome, however, is that a lot of men with beards will be masturbating furiously because they have found something called the Higgs Bosun. Better known in cardigan-wearing circles as the God particle. The fact that finding this will cost a shade under ?10 billion is of supreme indifference to these people, who will tell us that we are a step closer to understanding the beginnings of the universe.

 

 

 

Now, I think this will divide people straight down the middle. On one side the cynics, who will complain bitterly that such sums of money could feed Africa for a decade rather than be spent on a hugely elaborate microscope. Their argument will be strengthened with the possibilty that we may all end up meeting our maker having been compressed into atomic dust.

 

 

 

On the other side will be those who think such discoveries are the foundation on which the human race must stand to progresss and become better. To understand something so mind-bogglingly complicated could be the key that unlocks the meaning of life. Or at least make Star Trek look feasible.

 

 

 

Me? I can't decide. For now I'm going to see what happens. But if I end up floating around space as a tachyon you can be sure I'll have a frown on my nuetron.

 

 

No need to worry Spider the European Organization for Nuclear Research, reported in June saying that we are in "no conceivable danger" - so best carry on paying your bills!

 

Earth 'not at risk' from collider

 

Our planet is not at risk from the world's most powerful particle physics experiment, a report has concluded.

 

The document addresses fears that the Large Hadron Collider is so energetic, it could have unforeseen consequences.

 

Critics are worried that mini-black holes made at the soon-to-open facility on the French-Swiss border might threaten the Earth's very existence.

 

But the report, issued the European Organization for Nuclear Research, says there is "no conceivable danger".

 

The organization - known better by its French acronym, Cern - will operate the collider underground in a 27km-long tunnel near Geneva.

 

This Large Hadron Collider (LHC) is a powerful and complicated machine, which will smash together protons at super-fast speeds in a bid to unlock the secrets of the Universe.

 

Six "detectors" - individual experiments - will count, trace and analyse the particles that emerge from the collisions.

 

Most physicists believe the risk of a cataclysm lies in the realms of science fiction. But there have been fears about the possibility of a mini-black hole - produced in the collider - swelling so that it gobbles up the Earth.

 

Critics have previously raised concerns that the production of weird hypothetical particles called strangelets in the LHC could trigger the mass conversion of nuclei in ordinary atoms into more strange matter - transforming the Earth into a hot, dead lump.

 

The lay language summary of the report, which has been written by Cern's top theorists, states: "Over the past billions of years, nature has already generated on Earth as many collisions as about a million LHC experiments - and the planet still exists."

 

The report added: "There is no basis for any concerns about the consequences of new particles or forms of matter that could possibly be produced by the LHC."

 

The new document is an update of the analysis carried out in 2003 into the safety of the collider by an independent team of scientists.

 

The authors of the latest report, including theoretical physicist John Ellis, confirmed that black holes could be made by the collider. But they said: "If microscopic black holes were to be singly produced by colliding the quarks and gluons inside protons, they would also be able to decay into the same types of particles that produced them."

 

The report added: "The expected lifetime [of a mini-black hole] would be very short."

 

On the strangelet issue, the report says that these particles are even less likely to be produced at the LHC than in the lower-energy Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider (RHIC) in New York, which has been operating since 2000.

 

A previous battle over particle accelerator safety was fought over the US machine.

 

'Fundamental question'

 

The scientific consensus appears to be on the side of Cern's theorists.

 

But in 2003, Dr Adrian Kent, a theoretical physicist at the University of Cambridge, wrote a paper in which he argued that scientists had not adequately calculated the risks of a "killer strangelet" catastrophe scenario.

 

He also expressed concern that a fundamental question (how improbable does a cataclysm have to be to warrant proceeding with an experiment?) had never been seriously inspected.

 

The LHC was due to switch on in 26 November 2007. The start-up has been postponed several times, however, and is currently scheduled for later this summer.

 

The first delay was precipitated by an accident in March 2007 during stress testing of one of the LHC's "quadrupole" magnets.

 

A statement carried on the Cern website from the US laboratory that provided the magnet stated that the equipment had experienced a "failure" when supporting structures "broke".

 

It later emerged that the magnet had exploded in the tunnel, close to one of the LHC's most important detectors.

 

No one was in the immediate vicinity of the test, so there were no injuries. The magnet problem was fixed shortly afterwards.

 

In March, a complaint requesting an injunction against the LHC's switch-on was filed before the United States District Court for the District of Hawaii by seven plaintiffs.

 

One of the plaintiffs had previously attempted to bring a similar injunction against the RHIC over safety concerns.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7468966.stm

Now I appreciate people going to the effort of finding stuff out for us, but can someone just sum the whole thing up in one or two lines please?

My understanding is this:

 

One side wants to smash tiny things together to see what happens.

 

The other side don't.

 

The best analogy would be two boys each given a radio for their 10th birthday.

 

One boy wants to take it apart to see how it works, hoping to be able to put it back together afterwards. In this way he hopes to be able to say he's as clever as the person who made it.

 

The second boy, grateful for the gift, listens to the beautiful music it produces.

Thank you. That's how I see it pretty much too.

 

Apart from it wouldn't cost ?10 billion for a radio.

Thank you. That's how I see it pretty much too.

 

Apart from it wouldn't cost ?10 billion for a radio.

 

 

As it was a gift, it would be rude to ask how much it cost.

As it was a gift, it would be rude to ask how much it cost.

true, but it would be fairly safe to assume......................

As is often the case I predict they will get f?ck all in the way of answers, but create a list as big a s a house of yet more questions that arise.

 

In the modern world we kid ourselves we know more and more, whereas the case is in fact that we know less and less, but I suppose at least we know less and less about more and more.

 

Wow, that was profound.

 

C?nt, boobs, willy.

C?nt, boobs, willy.

 

You just about saved yourself there!

As is often the case I predict they will get f?ck all in the way of answers, but create a list as big a s a house of yet more questions that arise.

 

In the modern world we kid ourselves we know more and more, whereas the case is in fact that we know less and less, but I suppose at least we know less and less about more and more.

 

Wow, that was profound.

 

C?nt, boobs, willy.

 

To quote one of my favourite artists:

The man that knows something

Knows that he knows nothing at all

Edited September 9, 200817 yr by no balls