Some top footballing pundits; Barry Fry, Howard Kendal, Chris Kamara; all agree that Megson is doing a great job at Bolton given the lack of funding. What do they have to do to convince those who can't admit that he's certainly no Sammy Lee?

those who seem determined not to come next year are the blinkered anti-megson mob who 'wont come again till megson is no longer in charge'

 

If thats you're opinion then as has been said on here before i hope you're not at the Reebok for a while

 

 

Jesus, you're the blinkered one. Anyone who even slightly criticises the way we play, any player's performance, managers tactics etc, gets lumped into the anti- Megson mob. I know a few people who aren't renewing simply because they don't enjoy what's on offer. Everyone's got to have your seemingly brainwashed opinion .

Jesus, you're the blinkered one. Anyone who even slightly criticises the way we play, any player's performance, managers tactics etc, gets lumped into the anti- Megson mob. I know a few people who aren't renewing simply because they don't enjoy what's on offer. Everyone's got to have your seemingly brainwashed opinion .

 

No they don't.

 

If they don't have my opinion they just need to know that my opinion is worth more than theirs

not net, surely?

 

Immaterial, he's spent that on players. If he had to sell top players like Anelka and not been able to re-invest, then lack of funding is correct, but he's had the money to spend.

Immaterial, he's spent that on players. If he had to sell top players like Anelka and not been able to re-invest, then lack of funding is correct, but he's had the money to spend.

Sorry, don't understand.

 

If (and I haven't done the sums) he has spent nothing, then that must be a lack of funding in comparison with other clubs

he's spent approx 28 million and got 20 in, thus he's spent 8 million

 

if you think the figure shouldn't be the nett spend you're an idiot

 

oh aye, and the wage bill is considerably lower

What he said.

 

 

Let's face it, if he'd spent that amount of cash without having to sell, we'd be world beaters!

he's spent approx 28 million and got 20 in, thus he's spent 8 million

 

if you think the figure shouldn't be the nett spend you're an idiot

 

oh aye, and the wage bill is considerably lower

 

 

Simple maths. Here goes. He inherits a squad of talented players including Anelka and Diouf, sells those two among others for decent money, and net spends ?8m over the deals like you say, then one would assume that the whole value of the playing talent should increase, but it hasn't IMO. There was an intrinsic value in what he had to start with, ie funding had already taken place before he arrived. In layman terms he hasn't added value

He inherits a squad of talented players?

 

Are you joking?

 

The only player we've sold but haven't replaced with a massively superior player since Megson arrived is Anelka. Who's obviously irreplaceable.

Edited May 5, 200917 yr by Tombwfc

ahh, thanks for that, id forgotten diouf

 

so we've spent 6 million

 

 

next point....we've been here before, this talented squad had got 5 points from 10 games and was going to get relegated

 

and i note you stopped at two names

 

we sold the best player

 

we sold the second best

 

at a cost of just 6 million, he's kept us up twice, and even though you want to ignore it, reduced our wage bill

 

but, and here's the rub

 

he's ginger and he's proved the doubters wrong - TWICE

ahh, thanks for that, id forgotten diouf

 

so we've spent 6 million

 

 

next point....we've been here before, this talented squad had got 5 points from 10 games and was going to get relegated

 

and i note you stopped at two names

 

we sold the best player

 

we sold the second best

 

at a cost of just 6 million, he's kept us up twice, and even though you want to ignore it, reduced our wage bill

 

but, and here's the rub

 

he's ginger and he's proved the doubters wrong - TWICE

 

 

He hasn't proved anything to me, i don't care if he's got green hair either.

 

We were going out of the league after that 4-0 drubbing at Villa, the players pulled us out of that, it dawned on them that all those years efforts getting to become an established premier league side would go down the pan, a last chance saloon. Don't tell me inspired management and tactics got us out of it.

That was a very long winded rant. Other than my saying WBA had some decent midfield players, two or three we have tried to sign recently, what's your problem? Have you got Megson on the brain as you seem to mention him every post?

 

 

I was being conciliatory, nice and even apologetic in that post. If you read that as a rant then you are indeed a vegetable.

Simple maths. Here goes. He inherits a squad of talented players including Anelka and Diouf, sells those two among others for decent money, and net spends ?8m over the deals like you say, then one would assume that the whole value of the playing talent should increase, but it hasn't IMO. There was an intrinsic value in what he had to start with, ie funding had already taken place before he arrived. In layman terms he hasn't added value

 

The 'Donkey Deano' tag becomes more apt every day. You can witter on to your hearts content about 30 mil spent on players or whatever. The nett reult has to be taken into account and judged as good or bad management. In this case, even Price Waterhouse would have to give it the thumbs up.

 

The key point which you miss in your fervour to criticise is that the powerhouses can spend that amount on one player and not give a flying f?ck whether they recover any of it by selling etc.

 

We are being astutely managed to survive in a league where most clubs have assets which dwarf ours.

He inherits a squad of talented players?

 

Are you joking?

 

The only player we've sold but haven't replaced with a massively superior player since Megson arrived is Anelka. Who's obviously irreplaceable.

 

How can you say that? I've checked the squad from the Braga game when Megson arrived and he has clearly decimated it:

 

Jussi Jaaskelainen

Nicky Hunt

Andrew O'Brien

Abdoulaye Meite

Gerald Cid

Ricardo Gardner

Danny Guthrie

Gavin McCann

Gary Speed

Kevin Davies

Nicolas Anelka

 

Substitutes :

 

Ali Al Habsi

Kevin Nolan

Andranik Teymourian

Mikel Alonso

El-Hadji Diouf

Joey O'Brien

Daniel Braaten

 

Gerald Cid - surely due an international call up soon

Abdoulaye Meite - great season with WBA

Danny Guthrie - another top 4 finish for Newcastle

Kevin Nolan - see Danny Guthrie, midfield dynamo

Gary Speed - still going strong

Andranik Teymourian - cracking season with erm Barnsley

Mikel Alonso - Looking to win the league in Spain, Segunda Division.

El-Hadji Diouf - banging them in at Sunderland, got a big money move to Blackburn

Daniel Braaten - oddly, doing best of the lot at Toulouse, currently 5th in Ligue 1.

Edited May 5, 200917 yr by Carlos

How can you say that? I've checked the squad from the Braga game when Megson arrived and he has clearly decimated it:

 

Jussi Jaaskelainen

Nicky Hunt

Andrew O'Brien

Abdoulaye Meite

Gerald Cid

Ricardo Gardner

Danny Guthrie

Gavin McCann

Gary Speed

Kevin Davies

Nicolas Anelka

 

Substitutes :

 

Ali Al Habsi

Kevin Nolan

Andranik Teymourian

Mikel Alonso

El-Hadji Diouf

Joey O'Brien

Daniel Braaten

 

Gerald Cid - surely due an international call up soon

Abdoulaye Meite - great season with WBA

Danny Guthrie - another top 4 finish for Newcastle

Kevin Nolan - see Danny Guthrie, midfield dynamo

Gary Speed - still going strong

Andranik Teymourian - cracking season with erm Barnsley

Mikel Alonso - Looking to win the league in Spain, Segunda Division.

El-Hadji Diouf - banging them in at Sunderland, got a big money move to Blackburn

Daniel Braaten - oddly, doing best of the lot at Toulouse, currently 5th in Ligue 1.

 

Just another anti Megson rant from you, Carlos. You sicken me

Surely had these players stayed, it'd have been us playing Man Utd tonight.

Surely had these players stayed, it'd have been us playing Man Utd tonight.

 

Aye, and we'd have panned them.

Looking at that defence it isn't any surprise that AOB looked superb when he first arrived

Looking at that defence it isn't any surprise that AOB looked superb when he first arrived

 

Tom's Shit from the Last 10 Years XI from the Jussi thread is only marginally worse.

He inherits a squad of talented players?

 

Are you joking?

The only player we've sold but haven't replaced with a massively superior player since Megson arrived is Anelka. Who's obviously irreplaceable.

 

He isn't joking

 

The squad Megson inherited won 4 straight PL home games including Man Utd before his January dealings when he sold Anelka and bought Taylor,Steinsson and Cahill.The home wins suddenly stopped.

He isn't joking

 

The squad Megson inherited won 4 straight PL home games including Man Utd before his January dealings when he sold Anelka and bought Taylor,Steinsson and Cahill.The home wins suddenly stopped.

 

I don't think that he, as in Megson, actually sold Anelka himself or had any say in the matter.

I don't think that he, as in Megson, actually sold Anelka himself or had any say in the matter.

 

The January sale of Anelka was an executed clause in the new extended contract he'd signed.

He isn't joking

 

The squad Megson inherited won 4 straight PL home games including Man Utd before his January dealings when he sold Anelka and bought Taylor,Steinsson and Cahill.The home wins suddenly stopped.

 

No team could lose a player like Anelka and not feel it. As others have highlighted, Anelkas departure had nothing to do with our current manager. No doubt you'll continue to put an anti Megson twist on everything which has happened to BWFC during his tenure.

 

Are you Welsh? From Holyhead?

Edited May 6, 200917 yr by bolty58

Deano Holland?

He hasn't proved anything to me, i don't care if he's got green hair either.

 

We were going out of the league after that 4-0 drubbing at Villa, the players pulled us out of that, it dawned on them that all those years efforts getting to become an established premier league side would go down the pan, a last chance saloon. Don't tell me inspired management and tactics got us out of it.

 

that old chestnut.

 

If we do well it's inspite of megson, if we're poor it's megsons fault

He hasn't proved anything to me, i don't care if he's got green hair either.

 

We were going out of the league after that 4-0 drubbing at Villa, the players pulled us out of that, it dawned on them that all those years efforts getting to become an established premier league side would go down the pan, a last chance saloon. Don't tell me inspired management and tactics got us out of it.

 

That makes everything you post regarding Megson irrelevent in the future. The players pulled us out of the shit but when things arent going well its the managers fault? The same players this season but its not their fault its the managers? What a load of steaming horse shit.