DutchWhites Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 As I've said before, Megson is the best manager we could have on our limited budget and ambition. So we sack Megson...who do we get? Owen Coyle? Phil Brown? Nigel Pearson? They are all half-decent managers but none of them have kept a team in the Premiership. Megson has. More than once. Get behind him or fook off, we need Megson more than we need the anti-Megson fools. I'd rather see 10000 in the ground supporting the manager than 20000 with half of them hurling abuse at him. None of them have kept a team in the Premiership - well apart from Sunbed (whoms fate will probably be decided on Saturday) the others have not actually been in the Premiership ever as a manager sho how can you comment like that???? Or do you have fore-knowledge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter HomerJay Posted May 14, 2009 Site Supporter Share Posted May 14, 2009 (edited) Four attempts at mediocre, none right Picking up on grammar is gay... but it did make me laugh I thought you were building up to a joke when I first read it in my defence, i cut and pasted it, as it origionally said average. so there :p AND its spelling not grammar. did you not go to school or sommit? Edited May 14, 2009 by HomerJay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natasha Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 None of them have kept a team in the Premiership - well apart from Sunbed (whoms fate will probably be decided on Saturday) the others have not actually been in the Premiership ever as a manager sho how can you comment like that???? Or do you have fore-knowledge? Er, that's the point my Dutch friend. They haven't managed in the Premiership so they would be a huge risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchWhites Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Er, that's the point my Dutch friend. They haven't managed in the Premiership so they would be a huge risk. Neither had Guus Hiddinck, Fergie, Arsen Wenger, Moyes, Allardyce (at Bolton) - just to name a few when they first joined their respective teams - so were they a huge risk as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer28 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 As I've said before, Megson is the best manager we could have on our limited budget and ambition. So we sack Megson...who do we get? Owen Coyle? Phil Brown? Nigel Pearson? They are all half-decent managers but none of them have kept a team in the Premiership. Megson has. More than once. Get behind him or fook off, we need Megson more than we need the anti-Megson fools. I'd rather see 10000 in the ground supporting the manager than 20000 with half of them hurling abuse at him. I'd rather see the other 10,000 back because of the 20 of us who got season tickets in 1997 there are only 4 left! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Neither had Guus Hiddinck, Fergie, Arsen Wenger, Moyes, Allardyce (at Bolton) - just to name a few when they first joined their respective teams - so were they a huge risk as well? Hiddink, Wenger and Fergie had all won stuff outside England even though you could say fergie was a gamble that nearly didn't pay off. Moyes was a big gamble and it worked for Everton given time. Allardyce joined a team in the Championship so doesn't fit into you comparison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchWhites Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Hiddink, Wenger and Fergie had all won stuff outside England even though you could say fergie was a gamble that nearly didn't pay off. Moyes was a big gamble and it worked for Everton given time. Allardyce joined a team in the Championship so doesn't fit into you comparison But none of them had managed a team in the PREMIERSHIP before coming over to join or getting promotion with respective clubs - so yes it does fit into the profile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 But none of them had managed a team in the PREMIERSHIP before coming over to join or getting promotion with respective clubs - so yes it does fit into the profile. Coyle et al have'nt even managed at a level similar to the prem the 3 you mentioned have all won major trophies before coming to the prem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchWhites Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Coyle et al have'nt even managed at a level similar to the prem the 3 you mentioned have all won major trophies before coming to the prem But as everyone keeps saying the PL is a different animal to that on the mainland continent - so a big gamble! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no balls Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 But as everyone keeps saying the PL is a different animal to that on the mainland continent - so a big gamble! So Guus Hiddink was a big gamble? Give over will you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchWhites Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 So Guus Hiddink was a big gamble? Give over will you! Ok, explain as to why he was not a big gamble considering he has NEVER managed a team in the Premiership and the game played in the Premiership is a different style to many successful, and not, teams on the mainland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no balls Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Ok, explain as to why he was not a big gamble considering he has NEVER managed a team in the Premiership and the game played in the Premiership is a different style to many successful, and not, teams on the mainland. He had a track record of being motivator & a decent tactician, as well as having previous experience of a high pressure managerial role, all of which which Chelsea needed. One doesn't have to have been actually managed in the EPL to understand the level required. He's managed more than one country, please don't tell me that isn't a high a pressure job then the Championship. P.S. You don't seem to have replied to Widnes offer. If you come on here giving it the billy bigbollocks, then a - don't expect flak & b - please don't then ignore the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no balls Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 (edited) double post - how odd! Edited May 14, 2009 by no balls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchWhites Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 He had a track record of being motivator & a decent tactician, as well as having previous experience of a high pressure managerial role, all of which which Chelsea needed. One doesn't have to have been actually managed in the EPL to understand the level required. He's managed more than one country, please don't tell me that isn't a high a pressure job then the Championship. P.S. You don't seem to have replied to Widnes offer. If you come on here giving it the billy bigbollocks, then a - don't expect flak & b - please don't then ignore the issue. All that as maybe (fantastic pedigree which even I agree with) but completely all unproven in the Premiership. For all we know he could have fallen flat on his face with managing a PL team. There again, kicked out of CL, not won every game and FA Cup final which they could either win or lose. He has managed to do well, but he was still a big gamble (retrospect is always a good thing, isn't it!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no balls Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 All that as maybe (fantastic pedigree which even I agree with) but completely all unproven in the Premiership. For all we know he could have fallen flat on his face with managing a PL team. There again, kicked out of CL, not won every game and FA Cup final which they could either win or lose. He has managed to do well, but he was still a big gamble (retrospect is always a good thing, isn't it!) Any new employee is a gamble of some sort, in any business at any level, but big? No, he wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tylswhite Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Neither had Guus Hiddinck, Fergie, Arsen Wenger, Moyes, Allardyce (at Bolton) - just to name a few when they first joined their respective teams - so were they a huge risk as well? Hiddink - proven world class manager, no gamble there. Fergie - Won many titles in Scotland's top division with a team not Rangers or Celtic (good achievement even though hes a cunt) Wenger - 50/50 on this one, had success previously but it was a calculated risk more than a gamble imo Moyes - A gamble that paid off Allardyce - N/A. Started in championship and was given TIME to build up his empire. Any manager available for us to get would be a bigger risk than keeping Megson imo. He deserves next season at least to see if he can push on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchWhites Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Hiddink - proven world class manager, no gamble there. Fergie - Won many titles in Scotland's top division with a team not Rangers or Celtic (good achievement even though hes a cunt) Wenger - 50/50 on this one, had success previously but it was a calculated risk more than a gamble imo Moyes - A gamble that paid off Allardyce - N/A. Started in championship and was given TIME to build up his empire. - promotion in his 2nd season - so how much time did he need to go from the lower half of the Division 1 to promotion? (sorry for next bit as I know I will get flack) whilst a certain other person in just under 2 seasons has only moved us up 3 places (so far) - again not looking for Europe or top5 fginish but a top half finish and possibly a top 10 finish would have been good enough! Any manager available for us to get would be a bigger risk than keeping Megson imo. He deserves next season at least to see if he can push on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 but a top half finish and possibly a top 10 finish would have been good enough! are they not the same thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchWhites Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 are they not the same thing? top half is anywhere between 1 and 12 top ten is between 1 and 10! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 top half is anywhere between 1 and 12 top ten is between 1 and 10! 20 team league and half of 20 is ............................................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules_darby Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 top half is anywhere between 1 and 12 top ten is between 1 and 10! Right, this gimp is definitely a) a wind up or on a wind up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tylswhite Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 The championship is a different world to the premiership and lets face it we were a top 2 or 3 side in that division who were under achieving. Allardyce got us organised and back up the league where we belonged, that was the easy bit and that bought him the time he needed. What he did in the premiership was fantastic but he did so off the foundations which he built in the championship and the first couple of seasons in the premiership, had he got us relegated straight away he wouldnt of got slated because he got us promoted to start with. So what im saying is if Megson had come in when we were in the championship and got us promoted and done like we have this season he wouldnt have got slated like he is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Right, this gimp is definitely a) a wind up or on a wind up C'mon, we know, from experience, that bankers can't add up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gudnisson Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Dutch Whites, For crying out loud why can't you leave the Megson thing alone. He had no right to keep us in the league last season (5 points in October when he came). He has more than earned the chance next season to keep us improving (even if the improvement is not quick enough for you). Changing manager now in my opinion could have us relegated next season. Why take the risk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchWhites Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 (edited) Right, this gimp is definitely a) a wind up or on a wind up OKIE DOAKIE - NOT REALLY CONCENTRATING ON THIS SITE TODAY AS I AM ALSO DOING MY OWN WORK, AS OUT OF A TEAM OF SIX THERE IS JUST ME!!! SO APOLOGIES FOR LOOKING THICK ON THAT - D'OH STUPID ME! ALSO APOLOGIES FOR THE MANY SPELLING MISTAKES TODAY AS WELL ALSO MAKING SOME STUPID ERRORS AT WORK AS WELL :-( Edited May 14, 2009 by DutchWhites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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