athywhite1958 Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Athy can you check they are cousins before throwing accusations about? They'll be fingering each other senseless if they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beer_swiller Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Come on girls stop squabbling. The writing was on the wall from last season but was not properly addressed. But for the goals from Sturrige we would have dropped then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Come on girls stop squabbling. The writing was on the wall from last season but was not properly addressed. But for the goals from Sturrige we would have dropped then. that's another fallacy people like to trot out. Elmander was scoring until Coyle shufted him into random positions to accommodate Sturridge and Fat Kev. If anything it was Elmanders goals that kept us up as Sturridges goals came during our post Christmas collapse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrp Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 that's another fallacy people like to trot out. Elmander was scoring until Coyle shufted him into random positions to accommodate Sturridge and Fat Kev. If anything it was Elmanders goals that kept us up as Sturridges goals came during our post Christmas collapse Frank you know Facts arnt allowed on here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Frank you know Facts arnt allowed on here! sorry, i'm off to do my 20 Hail Mary's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 We won 4 and drew 1 of the 7 games in which Sturridge scored. ie when he scored we got 1.86pts per game. Just an alternative view / fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloria Stitz Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Sturridge didn't just bring goals. He brought all round PL quality. An ability to keep the ball as well as win it from deep and attack with it. The Klasnic and Davies partnership has been costing us all season and Coyle can't see it and will no doubt revert to it on Saturday. Neither come with ball holding abilities, meaning each time it goes up to them, it comes straight back in the form of an attacking opposition move, meaning the back line is too often exposed, hence the appalling defensive record. On top of this, neither are the type of players to drop back and win the ball from midfield and attack with it in the way that Sturridge would, meaning we're constantly having to rely on a good pass or cross from which to score. Thanks for reading, Gloria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anewman Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Sturridge didn't just bring goals. He brought all round PL quality. An ability to keep the ball as well as win it from deep and attack with it. The Klasnic and Davies partnership has been costing us all season and Coyle can't see it and will no doubt revert to it on Saturday. Neither come with ball holding abilities, meaning each time it goes up to them, it comes straight back in the form of an attacking opposition move, meaning the back line is too often exposed, hence the appalling defensive record. On top of this, neither are the type of players to drop back and win the ball from midfield and attack with it in the way that Sturridge would, meaning we're constantly having to rely on a good pass or cross from which to score. Thanks for reading, Gloria. fuck off with your little poxy statements at the end of a paragraph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underpants Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 to owen coyle and the players of bwfc time to step up to the plate-or fuck off http://www.wanderersways.com/forum/topic/68352-seems-skd-thinks-the-same-as-us/page__view__findpost__p__908706 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beer_swiller Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 From the assumptions just in this topic Coyle needs a masterstroke of genius to keep us in the prem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anewman Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 From the assumptions just in this topic Coyle needs a masterstroke of genius to keep us in the prem. I would say if he got rid of the inept backroom staff and employed qualified, experienced staff that would be a good start During the Newcastle game it showed the bench and one of the coaches was bigger than Big E The others looked like rabbits in a headlight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 I would say if he got rid of the inept backroom staff and employed qualified, experienced staff that would be a good start During the Newcastle game it showed the bench and one of the coaches was bigger than Big E The others looked like rabbits in a headlight That'll be his brother-in-law the kit man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anewman Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 That'll be his brother-in-law the kit man. why the fuck does a kitman sit on the bench????? surely he should be in the dressing room making sure everything is spick and span Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 why the fuck does a kitman sit on the bench????? surely he should be in the dressing room making sure everything is spick and span not a clue he's also spotted waddling his way round the pitch during the pre game warm-up engaging in 'banter' with the players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anewman Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 not a clue he's also spotted waddling his way round the pitch during the pre game warm-up engaging in 'banter' with the players thats exactly what I was on about, inept staff I'd rather see phil brown or mcclaren on the pitch with the players than mister blobby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waffer cup 07 Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 thats exactly what I was on about, inept staff I'd rather see phil brown or mcclaren on the pitch with the players than mister blobby While mentioning Phil Brown i would bring him in as a coach and motivator ( sad to say we need one ) The current coaches obviously aren't good enough , so Brown can't be any worse and i'm sure he could get the players more up for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted December 28, 2011 Moderators Share Posted December 28, 2011 (edited) that's another fallacy people like to trot out. Elmander was scoring until Coyle shufted him into random positions to accommodate Sturridge and Fat Kev. If anything it was Elmanders goals that kept us up as Sturridges goals came during our post Christmas collapse it was clearly both of there goals that kept us up - though Sturridge's goals could be considered more valuable if we were collapsing at the time (gained us 2 v Wolves and 1 v Newcastle for example) - however the only real "collapse" was the last 5 games where we lost all 5 and he only scored 1 so fair to say it was both of them combined that kept us up one scored most of his in the 1st half of the season and the other in the 2nd half I'd have said we would have been far more comfortable by the end of the season had SKD been the one to make way Edited December 28, 2011 by ZicoKelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Bloody 'ell Frank, the voice of reason Thanks for reasoning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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