Yay or nay?

 

Every other country seems to be doing it to suit themselves.

 

Ideally we'd have enough English born, bred or through their parents not to have to snaffle players who only qualify through having lived here for 5 years ... but seeing as that's not the case I'm all for it.

 

 

serious question - would john barnes qualify under gonzos rules

I think THE GONZO was fishing

really, i'm interested in what folk think

 

is it ok for blacks and not for whites?

not a question of "should"

 

up to him, born and bred jock to a jock mum, but his formative years spent in USA

 

thems his options

 

http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/1679/us-national-team/2009/09/23/1519545/holden-playing-for-the-us-a-no-brainer

 

so for me, he's american like farah and muamba are english

 

 

Good work Zico

 

Marc, says thanks.

 

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wanderers/wanderersnews/10728284._/

I never actually decried the fact that the likes of John Barnes,Muamba and mo Farrah has the choice to play/take part for England/Gb in my last post,I was merely stating their choice wouldn't be so easy or quickly if the countries of their birth had a set up like ours and provided the riches it therefore entails.

 

Does Mo Farrah consider himself a true British man? I'm saying he doesn't,would he have chosen to run under the Somali flag had they been as prosperous nation as ours? I'm saying he would.

 

If they chose to take the British/English name to succeed in sport without actually considering themselves as English I.e terry butcher then I think it's wrong.

 

If the rules in place suggest its right then fair fucks to them wanting to do it,like Jules says they are only doing what we all want imigrants to do.

 

But I'd be interested to hear how many actually consider themselves British etc.

 Let’s wait until a genuine talent turns up who does it week in week out and wants to play for England before we have a national debate about it because its hypothetical nonsense at the moment.

 

 

 

My initial question was a hypothetical one.  Not sure why you think it's a  nonsensical one though?

 

Why should we have to wait until there is a 'genuine talent'?  The pros, cons, fors and againsts will shirley still be the same ones.

There's a joke doing the rounds on this subject, along the lines of Madeline McCann being eligible to play for Portugal.

 

I like a joke that is close to the bone as much as anyone but I'm not sure if this is too far?

My initial question was a hypothetical one. Not sure why you think it's a nonsensical one though?

 

Why should we have to wait until there is a 'genuine talent'? The pros, cons, fors and againsts will shirley still be the same ones.

This wasn't against your post or the thread, more of a comment on why every newspaper and website seems to be obsessed with something that is not relevant.

 

Hypothetically, Messi came to bolton aged 13 and scored a debut hat trick at 16 propelling us to the top of the league over the next two seasons. Sat in the balmoral on a Friday night he decides that he hates Argentina and wants to represent England. The question is do we carry on booing him?

We spend gazillions a year on grass roots football to nurture kids into stars.

 

Well we spend gazillions on the new England training centre and the Premiership academies and such like.

 

The vast majority of grass roots football doesn't get tuppence, and nurturing kids who slipped through (or 'failed') the academy net is pot luck.

Hypothetically, Messi came to bolton aged 13.

 

That's not hypothetical, it actually happened.  Fat Sam said so.  Fartside wouldn't give Fat Sam the £100 it would've cost to sign him though .

There's a joke doing the rounds on this subject, along the lines of Madeline McCann being eligible to play for Portugal.

 

I like a joke that is close to the bone as much as anyone but I'm not sure if this is too far?

 

 

 

She's better than Zidane

if I were him, I'd play for Belgium anyway, good team in the making they are

If Man Uniteds Januzaj is now eligible to play for England does that mean Madeleine McCann is now eligible to play for Portugal?

If he scored the winner in the WC final, no one would care, he'd be a hero, some non British act won BGT, as long as they're good and it's all legal, then bring them type of players on.

 

Of course though many would have only seen him v Sunderland, he's clearly talented, but one game isn't enough.

 

Saw on Sky that Scotland wanted Rooney, okay :lol:.

Muamba's situation is different to many.

There's a good chance he and his family would have been dead, had they not fled the country.

 

He's hardly likely to want to represent that country later in life, is he?

He didn't choose England. We chose him. he was educated here and nurtured as a player here.

If Man Uniteds Januzaj is now eligible to play for England does that mean Madeleine McCann is now eligible to play for Portugal?

I just re worded the original of that joke and sent it little Whitt and jimmy Sharples.

 

Fuck me it doesn't take long does it?

 

Haha

 

Do I get royalties?