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Knee Injuries

My knee went on Wednesday while at work, I can bend it but its painful. It was stiff but now theres a bit of a pulling sensation. I'm going to try for a Doctors appointment, but does anyone have an idea what it's likely to be or how long it takes to heal? I'm mad busy at work at the moment and can't afford any time off.

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In reply to Jules and Ben Der it was a shooting pain through the middle of my knee originally.  On Saturday I was walking down the stairs and jarred it and now it's a weird pulling sensation when I bend it.  It was also tender to touch on the inner leg side of the knee.

 

Got a Doctors appointment for tonight (amazingly) so fingers crossed he'll refer me to a Physio or at least tell me what I'm dealing with.

 

I've had quite a bit of trouble with my knees over the years and running hasn't helped it. 

In reply to Jules and Ben Der it was a shooting pain through the middle of my knee originally.  On Saturday I was walking down the stairs and jarred it and now it's a weird pulling sensation when I bend it.  It was also tender to touch on the inner leg side of the knee.

 

Got a Doctors appointment for tonight (amazingly) so fingers crossed he'll refer me to a Physio or at least tell me what I'm dealing with.

 

I've had quite a bit of trouble with my knees over the years and running hasn't helped it. 

There we - it's from go running then...........

 

The problem occurs from when your tits keep banging into your kneecaps

 

You need a good support bra at your age

 

 

 

Seriously though, it could be anything but doesn't sound like you've torn owt...probably pulled summat

I'm fucking dreading getting to your lots age

BCG - it could well be the Bursitis I had last year. Started off as a shooting pain,I thought nothing of it until one day,it just swelled up and I couldn't walk.

 

Had it chopped off,but am fine on crutches now.   HTH

 

PS - I've done my cruciate,ACL,EDL,EBY GUM in the past and recognise the difference.  You could well have spilt nail varnish on it though  :blum:

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Been Docs, tissue damage, told me to take 400mg Ibuprofen for the swelling and come back in a fortnight if it's no better.

 

I'm going to play on it though, I'm enjoying everybody fetching/carrying for me.

  • 12 years later...

Just out of knee surgery.

Waiting to speak to surgeon about what they did.

From the scan they needed to remove loose cartilage and loose bodies which have been giving me grief for 12 months.

Been no running and cycling from me for over 12 months, so I’m hoping I get a full recovery will get me back in the exercise trail in the summer.

Anyone been through something similar? How did your recovery go?

Anyway, off y tits on Fenanyl at the moment, so enjoying the experience! 

Similar many years ago. Tony Banks did my knee and he retired in 2006. I was never able to run seriously again but I turned to cycling and still do. Occasionally. You could be different of course. Hope it works out.

24 minutes ago, desperado said:

Just out of knee surgery.

Waiting to speak to surgeon about what they did.

From the scan they needed to remove loose cartilage and loose bodies which have been giving me grief for 12 months.

Been no running and cycling from me for over 12 months, so I’m hoping I get a full recovery will get me back in the exercise trail in the summer.

Anyone been through something similar? How did your recovery go?

Anyway, off y tits on Fenanyl at the moment, so enjoying the experience! 

Few years ago, tore the cartilage in my knee. They cut around it and removed all crap that had built up around the joint

Before I went in, they used a marker pen to draw an arrow on my leg pointing to the knee so they couldn't fuck it up

When I came round afterwards it looked like they had made a bloodbath of my knee but turns out it was iodine

Wanted a nice scar but as it was key hole surgery it was just two tiny pin pricks either side of the knee

Slowly did exercise to get back into things though it took a while which was more down to my laziness 

I tended to do cycling/exercise bike as it was non impact 

4 hours ago, desperado said:

Just out of knee surgery.

Waiting to speak to surgeon about what they did.

From the scan they needed to remove loose cartilage and loose bodies which have been giving me grief for 12 months.

Been no running and cycling from me for over 12 months, so I’m hoping I get a full recovery will get me back in the exercise trail in the summer.

Anyone been through something similar? How did your recovery go?

Anyway, off y tits on Fenanyl at the moment, so enjoying the experience! 

Ive had 3 meniscus ops on left leg. Ended up with bone on bone arthritis and was in constant pain. At 49 I was considered to young for a knee replacement so was offered a "high tibial osteotomy" which is a brutal procedure that realigns your leg to wear out the opposite side of your knee.  It is a long recovery, I was off work nearly a year.  But 9 yrs on and its holding up well.  

When they offer you meniscus surgery they tell you you may develop arthritis within 10 years. I haven't met anyone who has had a cartilage trim that hasn't gone on to develop it.

Knees are fucking shit

47 minutes ago, batton carrier said:

Ive had 3 meniscus ops on left leg. Ended up with bone on bone arthritis and was in constant pain. At 49 I was considered to young for a knee replacement so was offered a "high tibial osteotomy" which is a brutal procedure that realigns your leg to wear out the opposite side of your knee.  It is a long recovery, I was off work nearly a year.  But 9 yrs on and its holding up well.  

When they offer you meniscus surgery they tell you you may develop arthritis within 10 years. I haven't met anyone who has had a cartilage trim that hasn't gone on to develop it.

Knees are fucking shit

Interesting you should say that. 

Apparently after chatting to surgeon, there’s 3 things going on.

1/ Torn cartilage which was flapping about which they’ve cut away

2/ Early onset of Arthritis - nothing they can do about that… at this stage. 

3/ Some deep lying Loose Bodies - They are at the back of the knee, big, but inaccessible. It would have been too invasive/risky/problematic to go into the back of the knee. The potential damage and trauma that would have been caused didn’t justify doing anything.

Hoping that the loose cartilage was the key issue with pain/discomfort - that’s what the surgeon has suggested. If so I may be able to get back to exercising, not completely without pain/discomfort (as I suspect the other two problems will prevent that) but at least to a level that I can at least do it. Because I haven’t done anything properly for 12 months now. 

As for the arthritis I’ll follow physios advice on that and deal with it as/when 🤞

2 minutes ago, desperado said:

Interesting you should say that. 

Apparently after chatting to surgeon, there’s 3 things going on.

1/ Torn cartilage which was flapping about which they’ve cut away

2/ Early onset of Arthritis - nothing they can do about that… at this stage. 

3/ Some deep lying Loose Bodies - They are at the back of the knee, big, but inaccessible. It would have been too invasive/risky/problematic to go into the back of the knee. The potential damage and trauma that would have been caused didn’t justify doing anything.

Hoping that the loose cartilage was the key issue with pain/discomfort - that’s what the surgeon has suggested. If so I may be able to get back to exercising, not completely without pain/discomfort (as I suspect the other two problems will prevent that) but at least to a level that I can at least do it. Because I haven’t done anything properly for 12 months now. 

As for the arthritis I’ll follow physios advice on that and deal with it as/when 🤞

Simple advice but for obvious reasons keeping on top of weight is key along with some dietary changes to help reduce inflammation.  

Im active as fuck now and a few stone lighter than I was. Eventually my left knee will pack in and il have to look into a replacement.  Thing is they aren't new knees they are a shitty hinge the only benefit is you end up pain free. As fucked as they are il be keeping hold of mine as long as I can.

Good luck with the recovery and dont do to much . I tore mine again 4 months after my first operation 

2 minutes ago, batton carrier said:

Simple advice but for obvious reasons keeping on top of weight is key along with some dietary changes to help reduce inflammation.  

Im active as fuck now and a few stone lighter than I was. Eventually my left knee will pack in and il have to look into a replacement.  Thing is they aren't new knees they are a shitty hinge the only benefit is you end up pain free. As fucked as they are il be keeping hold of mine as long as I can.

Good luck with the recovery and dont do to much . I tore mine again 4 months after my first operation 

Thanks for the advice - much appreciated.

And to @DirtySanchez and @BobyBrno for sharing experiences, it’s good to compare.

 

Don't get old, lads.

It fucks you up.

Totally unrelated to your actual problem but I’ve had issues with both my knees the past few years. After seeing a post from @gonzo regarding the psoas muscle I sought help from a physio. Turned out that was the issue that I had

Anyway, a couple of points. Decent physios are amazing and will point you down the right track. Non-loadbearing exercise is the way forward. Swimming and cycling works wonders for me. Village Gym where I’m a member has quite a few blokes doing “running” in the lanes to aid recovery from knee and hip issues. They swear by it

Pity I was not here earlier in the week…

I did my knee playing 5 a side, in 1996, eventually had key hole surgery and was back playing in a couple of months. Was fine for about 20 years and it started hurting again and clicking. Referred back to surgeon , another key hole job, but the damage was more severe so the doctor drilled into knee to cause a micro fracture to get my body to produce new cartilage. This worked for a short while but during physio it just went again. I went back to specialist and arranged for him to check it out, but as I had changed jobs private health care no longer covered it and nhs would not touch it. 
I basically just had to manage it, but no more football, knee just deteriorated and at 58 had a TKR total knee replacement , which is classed as a major op, upside was I missed Oxford play off game. Knee is now totally pain free but is not a bendy as it once was. I would do as much you can to avoid the TKR if does affect you mobility. 

22 hours ago, batton carrier said:

Ive had 3 meniscus ops on left leg. Ended up with bone on bone arthritis and was in constant pain. At 49 I was considered to young for a knee replacement so was offered a "high tibial osteotomy" which is a brutal procedure that realigns your leg to wear out the opposite side of your knee.  It is a long recovery, I was off work nearly a year.  But 9 yrs on and its holding up well.  

When they offer you meniscus surgery they tell you you may develop arthritis within 10 years. I haven't met anyone who has had a cartilage trim that hasn't gone on to develop it.

Knees are fucking shit

Had the same high tibial osteotomy @ 5 years ago after several keyhole surgeries and similar recuperation to yours although mine was just after lockdown so we were working from home so I was able to push my mouse around for a bit whilst listening to Steve Wright in the afternoon (RIP). Had a spinal block rather than full anaesthetic and was dosed up on all sorts of wonderful chemicals. Got to take a large bottle of morphine home with me in the world’s best party bag which I still have in case I ever run out of Malbec. 
 

41 minutes ago, White on Tyne said:

Had the same high tibial osteotomy @ 5 years ago after several keyhole surgeries and similar recuperation to yours although mine was just after lockdown so we were working from home so I was able to push my mouse around for a bit whilst listening to Steve Wright in the afternoon (RIP). Had a spinal block rather than full anaesthetic and was dosed up on all sorts of wonderful chemicals. Got to take a large bottle of morphine home with me in the world’s best party bag which I still have in case I ever run out of Malbec. 
 

How have u found it since.  I think overall mine has been well worth it. Although the post op lay up was hard.  Did they leave your plates in . I couldnt live with mine and they took em out  a couple years after initial op.

16 hours ago, batton carrier said:

How have u found it since.  I think overall mine has been well worth it. Although the post op lay up was hard.  Did they leave your plates in . I couldnt live with mine and they took em out  a couple years after initial op.

Was a bit painful for several months afterwards and the specialist said it might be a bit of medial ligament stuck under the plate. But it would ease off. It did ,so they left the plate and screws in. It’s fine now and doesn’t set off airport scanners. Glad to hear yours all ok now.

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