That's exactly what I'm talking about. It's having the time to recognise it and do something about it. I don't know about you but if one of my family are in hospital - I want a personal touch and for them to have a bit of TLC.

As usual all the politicians and NHS managers are being politically correct.

I had reason to attend Bolton hospital for an emergency last year.

Ambulance called to house 5pm Tuesday evening.

Patient taken by Ambulance around 5.30 ( told we would be seen sooner that way)

5.45 first check in A&E.

When we first arrived I noticed there was plenty of nurses and doctors around.

All at once at around 7 most of them disappeared for approx 40mins.

The same thing happened at 9pm.

At half ten we were told that my girl friend was going to be admitted.At 11.45 a wheel chair arrived and we were taken out of A&E . A nurse accompanied us and the porter.

" we are so sorry for the delay , but if you look left as we go through these doors you will see the reason why and its like this 7nights a week."

I did look left and saw a whole corridor filled with our friends from overseas.

In the lift the nurse explained.

Ever afternoon and evening they turn up,they are not registered with a GP .

So they don't sit in the A&E arrivals dept. Which they used to , but tensions rose between them and other patients.

They are mostly there for sick notes which they take to benefit , and help centres.

The reason the staff disappear is they have alloted times to see to these people.

That's just one reason the NHS is going down the pan.

Its a flaming joke.

PS the treatment and emergency appendix operation went well.

The nurses and doctors do an amazing job everyday.

WHY can't somebody just say there's too many people putting a massive drain on the system who have never contributed to the system .

Edited February 6, 20179 yr by embankment

Are you Jeremy Hunt?

Rhyming slang?

 

Yes,yes I am, I'm not that fucking weapon who's been having body language lessons to look less of a freak but only succeeded in channelling Anthony Perkins in Psycho on whizz.

Just watched it, looks a right mess

 

I thought Blackburn was a brand new facility, how can it be so I equipped in terms of beds, they said something like 30 cubicles for 90 patients. Seems like piss poor planning for a kick off

 

Not sure what the answer is but the likes of Liverpool and Surrey are voting against additional council tax to help pay for social care to take the pressure off the NHS. I'd imagine the appetite for higher taxes to improve the NHS wouldn't get through in most regions.

 

If so then we either come to live with a poorer health service or alternatively take money from other areas. The other 2 huge areas of public spending are benefits and education. They are both struggling as well though so there are no easy ways to find extra funding

 

P.s This Cunt who has been brought in by ambulance 1060 times, he's not helping either. Lock the likes of him in a cave and it will help take the pressure off the system

As usual all the politicians and NHS managers are being politically correct.

I had reason to attend Bolton hospital for an emergency last year.

Ambulance called to house 5pm Tuesday evening.

Patient taken by Ambulance around 5.30 ( told we would be seen sooner that way)

5.45 first check in A&E.

When we first arrived I noticed there was plenty of nurses and doctors around.

All at once at around 7 most of them disappeared for approx 40mins.

The same thing happened at 9pm.

At half ten we were told that my girl friend was going to be admitted.At 11.45 a wheel chair arrived and we were taken out of A&E . A nurse accompanied us and the porter.

" we are so sorry for the delay , but if you look left as we go through these doors you will see the reason why and its like this 7nights a week."

I did look left and saw a whole corridor filled with our friends from overseas.

In the lift the nurse explained.

Ever afternoon and evening they turn up,they are not registered with a GP .

So they don't sit in the A&E arrivals dept. Which they used to , but tensions rose between them and other patients.

They are mostly there for sick notes which they take to benefit , and help centres.

The reason the staff disappear is they have alloted times to see to these people.

That's just one reason the NHS is going down the pan.

Its a flaming joke.

PS the treatment and emergency appendix operation went well.

The nurses and doctors do an amazing job everyday.

WHY can't somebody just say there's too many people putting a massive drain on the system who have never contributed to the system .

That's really interesting. I've never worked in A&E so I can't comment. Very few of them make it upstairs onto a ward - I can tell you that at least. I'll have to ask a few of my mates in emergency.

People do vote on the evidence of their eyes and experience, it is galling to be told, contrary to all the evidence you've witnessed, that all is tickety-boo by some cosseted c*nt who's never been in an A+E rammed with non-Brits who are also piss takers, or who lives in a terraced house in the midst of rentier slumlord lets to foreigners who have novel ideas on waste disposal...

Edited February 6, 20179 yr by Youri McAnespie

Part of my last two or three months at work was as part of the project to have fire crews attending "Red 1" ambulance calls. These are mainly calls which require immediate intervention to give the patient any chance of living; cardiac arrests, etc.

I became a fireman within the NWAS control centre at Chorlton.

I'll tell you, the number of calls the ambulance service gets that to me were obviously going to be a waste of time (and resources); a cut finger, a nose bleed, ingrown toenails, headache... the list is endless.

Every single call will get a response eventually and are coded Red amber green and teal. (The teal was just an additional level that was added after greens took up most of the space in the queuing system.)

 

If an ambulance takes a victim/patient to an A&E Dept, they need to wait with them until they can give a formal handover to the A&E staff. They wait in the corridor on the ambulance stretcher with the two ambulance staff. This obviously makes the ambulance unavailable for further calls until the patiend handover is completed, sometimes hours later.

Add to this that now only three hospitals are considered Major Trauma centres; Hope, Wythenshawe and Manchester Royal so any major trauma pick up from Bolton would go to Salford, impacting on Salford's ability to perform as a drop-in centre.

This has all happened since non-medical "HR managers" were put in place to streamline the service without real knowledge of impacts on medical professionals.

Just watched it, looks a right mess

 

I thought Blackburn was a brand new facility, how can it be so I equipped in terms of beds, they said something like 30 cubicles for 90 patients. Seems like piss poor planning for a kick off

 

Not sure what the answer is but the likes of Liverpool and Surrey are voting against additional council tax to help pay for social care to take the pressure off the NHS. I'd imagine the appetite for higher taxes to improve the NHS wouldn't get through in most regions.

 

If so then we either come to live with a poorer health service or alternatively take money from other areas. The other 2 huge areas of public spending are benefits and education. They are both struggling as well though so there are no easy ways to find extra funding

 

P.s This Cunt who has been brought in by ambulance 1060 times, he's not helping either. Lock the likes of him in a cave and it will help take the pressure off the system

 

Blackburn is our local hospital and A&E now. I been there visiting the wifes relatives a number of times and did some Dietetic shadowing there four years ago. Like  many new NHS establishments (including our new Health hub in Rawtenstall) the majority of space is made up of huge grandiose entrances, receptions and massive hallways and corridors. The wards  and treatment areas themselves are tiny by comparison and beds seemed crammed together. Seems mad.

Edited February 7, 20179 yr by bgoefc

I might have to turn in my yoghurt kaftan but I see no controversy in turning away non-Brits (who aren't tipping up in some way) whose lives aren't in jeopardy...It's fucking shit and a pity that other countries couldn't give a fuck about their people and I wish we could afford to be the better nation but we obviously can't...

 

British wankers should think on too; A+E for stubbed toes and hangovers, demanding antibiotics for the sniffles, hoarding prescription medication etc. Cunts' tricks.

Sounds anything but streamlined

 

I wonder how much of all the red tape bullshit has come off the back off Trust's getting sued?

 

I'm not a fan of folk sueing the NHS, it just makes the whole thing worse for everyone else, people should have to sign waivers on the way in or fuck off and pay privately

If some Ketamine addicted Ghanaian c*nt, surgery being a sideline to his tractor importation, leaves a teaspoon in your kid's kidney due to being pissed up in theatre then sue away...It takes a special kind of cunt to approach ASONS with a case for malfeasance on the part of the NHS for serving a cold brew with no sugar.

As usual all the politicians and NHS managers are being politically correct.

I had reason to attend Bolton hospital for an emergency last year.

Ambulance called to house 5pm Tuesday evening.

Patient taken by Ambulance around 5.30 ( told we would be seen sooner that way)

5.45 first check in A&E.

When we first arrived I noticed there was plenty of nurses and doctors around.

All at once at around 7 most of them disappeared for approx 40mins.

The same thing happened at 9pm.

At half ten we were told that my girl friend was going to be admitted.At 11.45 a wheel chair arrived and we were taken out of A&E . A nurse accompanied us and the porter.

" we are so sorry for the delay , but if you look left as we go through these doors you will see the reason why and its like this 7nights a week."

I did look left and saw a whole corridor filled with our friends from overseas.

In the lift the nurse explained.

Ever afternoon and evening they turn up,they are not registered with a GP .

So they don't sit in the A&E arrivals dept. Which they used to , but tensions rose between them and other patients.

They are mostly there for sick notes which they take to benefit , and help centres.

The reason the staff disappear is they have alloted times to see to these people.

That's just one reason the NHS is going down the pan.

Its a flaming joke.

PS the treatment and emergency appendix operation went well.

The nurses and doctors do an amazing job everyday.

WHY can't somebody just say there's too many people putting a massive drain on the system who have never contributed to the system .

Worst itinerary ever.

No appearance from Ashburner Street Market Fish Stall Face either? You're right, Enzo. Piss poor.

My Dad was admitted to Royal Bolton in early December just after his 90th birthday

 

Urinary tract infection that gave him a fever that made his dementia go through the roof

 

Admitted via A+E as he was taken by ambulance and after a 9 hour wait was put on the medical assessment unit. Stayed there for 5 days because they couldn't get a bed for him on a ward. Finally moved him up to complex care because they said that they couldn't find one single factor that was causing his problem despite that fact that we kept telling staff it was infection/fever/dementia

 

On complex care he lashed out a nurse trying to put a cannula in his vein and chipped her tooth. He was 90, demented, frightened and had no idea what was going on. We were summoned by the consultant and told that he was risk to staff. When I explained that he had dementia, a fever, etc and that I had explained it all to the staff on the medical assessment unit I was told that none of that info had been moved up to complex care

 

Next summons we got was that he wasn't eating his food. Again. I explained that he was 90 and demented and needed help and encouragement to eat. I was asked why I hadn't highlighted this beforehand. I told them that I had already gone over this in the Medical Assessment Unit and with the complex care consultant but seemingly none of this info had been forwarded on to the staff on the ward

 

Fast forward to the 5th January and he died peacefully in his sleep

 

This was Dec 2009/Jan 2010.

 

The NHS hasn't reached crisis point due to the current government. It's been at that point for years. It's not down to money as such, it's down to successive governments not having a fucking clue what to do with the money that they throw at the NHS. My Dad's case highlights the point that patients and families get lost in the bureaucracy created by fuckwits who cannot manage a big organisation such as a hospital trust

 

The staff, particularly, the nurses on the wards deal with what they are faced with but as in my Dad's case, information that could help is not passed on because it has to enter "a system" and by the time that it is regurgitated it's too late to help the patient

 

I will never forgive Bolton Hospital for the way that they dealt with my Dad. I've shortened the story massively. It was failings caused purely by non-clinical reasons

 

On a "black humour" note the last conversation that I ever had with him was the day after the 2-2 Hull game when Megson was sacked. He was obviously massively demented as he thought that Megson had been "unlucky"

Mistakes in paperwork also happened with my dad. The coroner issued a corrective action notice to Bolton hospital because of it.

 

It may not have prevented the final outcome though.

 

Whilst I agree improvements can be found in systems etc; the lack of sufficient funding (I agree from successive governments) lies at the root of this.

 

Too many patients and too few staff, and the aftercare facilities etc. is always going to increase the risk of errors.

I can only think of two I've had my suspicions about in the past 3 years. Of all the things that need fixing in the NHS this one's way down the list.

Kent, Have you ever had to soap up a pair of old mans bollocks?

Kent, Have you ever had to soap up a pair of old mans bollocks?

That's one of the few perks!