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Politics

What is that "mate" of mine Sadiq Khan trying to achieve ?

 

You lost you demented little cretin, get over it and concentrate on your job you terrorist sympathiser.

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1 minute ago, Farrelli said:

You misunderstood. What I meant was if they earn 300k then 300k bonus on top is more than enough. That is the present cap and this is appropriate in my opinion. 

You still want to stifle earnings though - if the cap is unlimited (as it is at my works) then it ensures the employee keeps driving forward for more, and more, and more

What if somebody wants/needs to earn £1KK per year - if they're that good, and we tell them "sorry mate, we're capping you at £600K" then they'll be fucking off out of the country, and we lose not only the tax they would pay, but also potentially the tax that their company also pays.

I can't believe the lefty bedwetters aren't happy at a potential increase in tax take. It's just out and out jealousy.....

17 minutes ago, Sweep said:

jealousy

i have an issue with it

not the individuals themselves, just that playing silly games with money is 'worth' more than making stuff

im not saying manufacturing is worth more than other sectors, but fuck me, the world would be a better place without bankers

9 minutes ago, Sweep said:

You still want to stifle earnings though - if the cap is unlimited (as it is at my works) then it ensures the employee keeps driving forward for more, and more, and more

What if somebody wants/needs to earn £1KK per year - if they're that good, and we tell them "sorry mate, we're capping you at £600K" then they'll be fucking off out of the country, and we lose not only the tax they would pay, but also potentially the tax that their company also pays.

I can't believe the lefty bedwetters aren't happy at a potential increase in tax take. It's just out and out jealousy.....

theres a more urgent issue in the medical sector than fucking bankers

pensions capped so folk retire

24 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I am for employees getting paid for the profit and wealth they create, isn't that a good thing? Whats your problem with Banker topping the list? 

Where you asleep in 2008?

7 minutes ago, Casino said:

i have an issue with it

not the individuals themselves, just that playing silly games with money is 'worth' more than making stuff

im not saying manufacturing is worth more than other sectors, but fuck me, the world would be a better place without bankers

Bang on.

19 minutes ago, Sweep said:

You still want to stifle earnings though - if the cap is unlimited (as it is at my works) then it ensures the employee keeps driving forward for more, and more, and more

Hence the Financial Crash in 2008, and the many other market crashes prior to that...

I’d rather the Chancellor looked at preventing commerce operating in UK paying their taxes elsewhere. Also, anyone earning their living here should pay their tax here too. Both the above measures would go a long way towards solving the current cost-of-living crisis.

24 minutes ago, Sweep said:

You still want to stifle earnings though - if the cap is unlimited (as it is at my works) then it ensures the employee keeps driving forward for more, and more, and more

What if somebody wants/needs to earn £1KK per year - if they're that good, and we tell them "sorry mate, we're capping you at £600K" then they'll be fucking off out of the country, and we lose not only the tax they would pay, but also potentially the tax that their company also pays.

I can't believe the lefty bedwetters aren't happy at a potential increase in tax take. It's just out and out jealousy.....

If they are that good their basic salary would be higher. The present cap is perfectly fine especially during a cost of living crisis.

I know two bankers in dat der London. One of them retired in his 40s.

Nice lads, but not particularly bright. I'd go as far as to say as the retired one is a bit dim if I'm honest.

But like I said, good lads who knew the right people at the right time.

6 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

If they are that good their basic salary would be higher. The present cap is perfectly fine especially during a cost of living crisis.

Precisely. "There's a massive cost of living crisis! Let's give rich people more money!" is one of the thickest arguments I've ever heard.

No issue with the rich getting richer as I like to think I see the bigger picture on how more money generated on these shores trickles down. 
 

I do have sympathy also of how much the high earners have to shell out. To be only earning for yourself 45% of your working time it must be depressing. Someone close to me often tells me enough.

Where I do have an issue with it is when it’s at the expense of others and I think we are in these waters now. They can pipe down and fuck off.

8 minutes ago, tomski said:

No issue with the rich getting richer as I like to think I see the bigger picture on how more money generated on these shores trickles down. 
 

I do have sympathy also of how much the high earners have to shell out. To be only earning for yourself 45% of your working time it must be depressing. Someone close to me often tells me enough.

Where I do have an issue with it is when it’s at the expense of others and I think we are in these waters now. They can pipe down and fuck off.

Aren’t we all on that high tax band? WW average earning at £150k.

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3 minutes ago, MickyD said:

Aren’t we all on that high tax band? WW average earning at £150k.

I think most are. Trying to be respectful of the few 

9 minutes ago, tomski said:

No issue with the rich getting richer as I like to think I see the bigger picture on how more money generated on these shores trickles down. 
 

I do have sympathy also of how much the high earners have to shell out. To be only earning for yourself 45% of your working time it must be depressing. Someone close to me often tells me enough.

Where I do have an issue with it is when it’s at the expense of others and I think we are in these waters now. They can pipe down and fuck off.

The person close to you is talking out of his hole.

18 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Precisely. "There's a massive cost of living crisis! Let's give rich people more money!" is one of the thickest arguments I've ever heard.

 

Nearly as thick as your point of view... and paying bankers big bonuses has nowt to do with cost of living crisis so I am not sure why the 2 are being conflated. 

2 minutes ago, tomski said:

I think most are. Trying to be respectful of the few 

F-E-W? That isn’t even how to spell peasants!

4 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Nearly as thick as your point of view... and paying bankers big bonuses has nowt to do with cost of living crisis so I am not sure why the 2 are being conflated. 

Because we are literally in the middle of a cost of living crisis, and the new Chancellor of the Exchequer is planning to remove the cap on Bankers Bonuses... Do keep up.

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6 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

The person close to you is talking out of his hole.

Pretty sure he’s not. Went to uni so should be fine.

Just now, tomski said:

Pretty sure he’s not. Went to uni so should be fine.

He's saying 55% of what he earns doesn't go to him?

 

 

Just now, mickbrown said:

He's saying 55% of what he earns doesn't go to him?

 

 

Yes if you add NI etc

1 hour ago, Casino said:

theres a more urgent issue in the medical sector than fucking bankers

pensions capped so folk retire

Maybe, but the two have nothing to do with each other - it's too separate issues.

It's like when people, and I don't mean you, say "Why should bankers earn more, when teachers/nurses aren't paid enough"  -  absolutely nothing to do with each other at all

10 minutes ago, tomski said:

Yes if you add NI etc

He's fibbing to you.

50 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

If they are that good their basic salary would be higher. The present cap is perfectly fine especially during a cost of living crisis.

Who are you to decide what cap is "perfectly fine" - what parameters are you using when you work out what level of cap is sufficient for an individual?

42 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Precisely. "There's a massive cost of living crisis! Let's give rich people more money!" is one of the thickest arguments I've ever heard.

"There's a massive cost of living crisis, let's limit the amount of income tax we can take" is one of the thickest arguments I've ever heard

 

 

24 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

 

Nearly as thick as your point of view... and paying bankers big bonuses has nowt to do with cost of living crisis so I am not sure why the 2 are being conflated. 

He knows, as ever, he's just looking to have an argument

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