Don't need to go on about the importance of this game, especially with 2 aways following

 

At £15 a ticket it would be nice to have a decent crowd and really get behind the lads

 

Can't score for shit but 2-1 whites

It's because he created and scored and was an attacking threat

 

It's an area we're struggling with

 

Be surprised if he returned and we got worse

Oh yeah I know exactly what he did, but it's a step up for him as well. Suppose hope is all we have left.

No.We need far more to be able to compete. The squad is not strong enough but I think if we had 2 strong players in midfield able to impose themselves on the game we can stay up. We are asking an attacking midfielder-Karacan and a young boy on work experience-Cullen to protect a back 4. This is not PP's choosing it is the situation we are in financially because as has been posted previously the likes of Burton,Barnsley & Millwall are in a far better position to attract players.

yes and no for me mate

 

Financial side of things yes but he still signed 4 wingers now you telling me his scouts couldn't find a couple of freebies for the middle? Obviously no world beaters but tacklers

yes and no for me mate

 

Financial side of things yes but he still signed 4 wingers now you telling me his scouts couldn't find a couple of freebies for the middle? Obviously no world beaters but tacklers

That Dawson from Scunthorpe is better than what we currently have who was on a free this summer.

 

A leader as well. Never shut up on the 2 games against us

Edited September 24, 20178 yr by tomski

That Dawson from Scunthorpe is better than what we currently have who was on a free this summer.

 

A leader as well. Never shut up on the 2 games against us

go bury?

That Dawson from Scunthorpe is better than what we currently have who was on a free this summer.

 

A leader as well. Never shut up on the 2 games against us

i agree he is better than what we have.We need better than him though.Wheater & Beevers were the best in the league 1 but in the championship...

I think we all knew what we get out of wheater tbf

 

Beevers massive disappointment

Many times last season we weren't the better footballers in games, but we were able to stay in games then score from set pieces

 

I've not spent any time on this but perception is we didn't create very many chances

 

This season, the better players we come up against mean the opposition take more of their chances

 

Causing us to have to get back into games, leaving us more open

 

I reckon if we all picked our team before Leeds it would be massively different today and I also think we would all include vela and ameobi

 

Mainly cos they've not had chance to prove they're not up to it

Ha! Yeah everyone, give them a chance to let us down!

Think we know Ken doesn't want to spend money that he can't get back, so I still can't see him paying anyone off.

I probably kinda agree that he won't

 

However, the logic isn't necessarily sound; pay him off, we stay up *, his shares are worth more

 

* and I know there's no guarantee of that but my point is he can get his ££ back

Edited September 24, 20178 yr by jules_darby

It's a gamble either way isn't it - suppose it depends how close he is / isn't to selling the club. Obviously worth more in the Champo....

It's a gamble either way isn't it - suppose it depends how close he is / isn't to selling the club. Obviously worth more in the Champo....

aye, course it is

 

I think he's less likely to speculate to accumulate

 

And frankly it's probably for the best given ou Le recent history

 

I'd still pot PP mind

 

Some chance is better than no chance (of staying up)

go bury?

Aye

aye, course it is

I think he's less likely to speculate to accumulate

And frankly it's probably for the best given ou Le recent history

I'd still pot PP mind

Some chance is better than no chance (of staying up)

Agree. As a business man I'm sure his arse is starting to twitch.

I don't know how much PP earns, though I'd hazard a guess something akin to some of the players.

The wage restriction which PP has admitted caused a headache, perhaps means that some money may have been saved from what the club could have paid.

Its only a rough guess, but I reckon he could be put on gardening leave, and not cost the club a fortune.

He is on a rolling one year contract too, so it wouldn't last too long.

Edited September 25, 20178 yr by Tonge moor green jacket

I probably kinda agree that he won't

 

However, the logic isn't necessarily sound; pay him off, we stay up *, his shares are worth more

 

* and I know there's no guarantee of that but my point is he can get his ££ back

 

Ken's been around in football long enough to have a decent idea as to whether he thinks we have any real chance of staying up. I don't think Parky is a hindrance to staying up, personally. I think there are some better managers around, but would they even look twice at us? The problem is the players we have, through the spine of the team, from keeper to centre forward are probably all struggling at this level. The likes of Noone, Ameobi Little - they are fine for the championship. But the spine of our team, the most critical part is very, very sup-par. And the only way that can be fixed is spending money in January. Serious money. And by then I think its way too late.

 

You can blame Parky for the weak spine, but I think we also have to take into account the fact he was severely hamstrung in the market. 

Ken's been around in football long enough to have a decent idea as to whether he thinks we have any real chance of staying up. I don't think Parky is a hindrance to staying up, personally. I think there are some better managers around, but would they even look twice at us? The problem is the players we have, through the spine of the team, from keeper to centre forward are probably all struggling at this level. The likes of Noone, Ameobi Little - they are fine for the championship. But the spine of our team, the most critical part is very, very sup-par. And the only way that can be fixed is spending money in January. Serious money. And by then I think its way too late.

 

You can blame Parky for the weak spine, but I think we also have to take into account the fact he was severely hamstrung in the market.

the only person struggling at this level is parkinson

the only person struggling at this level is parkinson

Ha!

I don't think another manager could save us these players are poor and remind me of Lennons squad the last time we got relegated go 1 down they give up.

the only person struggling at this level is parkinson

 

Can revisit this if and when he goes. And a new bloke is there. What if we're not winning still. Who will you blame then?

the only person struggling at this level is parkinson

So you think every player in the team is Championship standard and no one is struggling ?

 

I am struggling for player who is not struggling if I am honest.

Think Madine looks like our only championship standard player at the moment!

I don't think another manager could save us these players are poor and remind me of Lennons squad the last time we got relegated go 1 down they give up.

 

i dont think they give up

 

they run out of ideas

 

im more convinced than ever it needs to be 451 and rely on free kicks

i dont think they give up

 

they run out of ideas

 

im more convinced than ever it needs to be 451 and rely on free kicks

I have been saying 451 since about half way through last season.

 

First thing stop letting in over 2 goals a game. If that means being boring and negative so be it.

 

The strange is people criticise Parky for his negative style but we need to be more defensive.

Think Madine looks like our only championship standard player at the moment!

Even he can't win the headers and then be the one running onto them. For all his improvement the lad couldn't finish his tea.

So you think every player in the team is Championship standard and no one is struggling ?

 

I am struggling for player who is not struggling if I am honest.

no I'm not saying that it's how you get the best out of them just like millwall she'd Utd are doing

 

We jumped out of the traps Saturday and was unlucky not to lead but concede and heads just go, second half Parkinson should have had that team fired up but total opposite