Clueless Coyle

[anewman]

See he's ruining yet another football club. Ross county broke a new record of 11 league games without a win over the weekend and are now 6 points adrift at the bottom. How the fuck does that man land employment in football?

 

Any way what do you disciples of him and that keep the faith bollocks think now??

 

Oh and he's just signed David magic ????????

[famouswanderer]

10 times worse than freedman, and thats saying something

[radcliffe white]

Joke of a man

 

Yet bolton fans spout so much hatred for Megson

[Zico]

you might want to update your avatar (unless you're still bitter bout Cahill leaving on the cheap)

[Dr Faustus]

Megson; horrible cunt, average manager

Coyle; nice bloke, fucking awful manager

Freedman; average bloke, awful manager

Lee; nice bloke, good coach, poor manager

Lennon; friendly cunt, average manager at best

[Biggish Dave]

Summed up beautifully by the good Dr

[Zico]

funny thing is, Coyle still has a better record than Megson

[radcliffe white]

Nice guys come last

[mickbrown]

Before he lost it, Coyle had us playing some of the best stuff I've seen during my time going to matches

[desert]

Nice guys come last

Thats the way Doris likes it.

Edited January 29, 2018 by desert

[frank_spencer]

Before he lost it, Coyle had us playing some of the best stuff I've seen during my time going to matches

Up until the stoke debacle he was the best manager ever on the eyes of many.

 

Then when things went to shit he was unable to sort it out. And things for him and the wanderers went massively downhill from there.

[radcliffe white]

funny thing is, Coyle still has a better record than Megson

so he should

 

Didn’t coyle manage about 50 games more? And a few of them in championship

[radcliffe white]

so he should

 

Didn’t coyle manage about 50 games more? And a few of them in championship

just looked 28 games more

[Zico]

better record for us, and everywhere else overall

 

that's in terms of win ratio, which is about as objective a benchmark as you can get

 

but it's enough to suggest that if coyle was a fucking awful manager, megson was nowhere near average

 

and then you've got all the other elements of being a manager that will inevitably drag megson in to the same bracket as Coyle

[Casino]

better record for us, and everywhere else overall

 

that's in terms of win ratio, which is about as objective a benchmark as you can get

 

but it's enough to suggest that if coyle was a fucking awful manager, megson was nowhere near average

 

and then you've got all the other elements of being a manager that will inevitably drag megson in to the same bracket as Coyle

 

 

is it bollocks

 

only sky care about win ratio

 

ppg every time...whoever it favours!

[Guest]

better record for us, and everywhere else overall

 

that's in terms of win ratio, which is about as objective a benchmark as you can get

 

but it's enough to suggest that if coyle was a fucking awful manager, megson was nowhere near average

 

and then you've got all the other elements of being a manager that will inevitably drag megson in to the same bracket as Coyle

 

Both were garbage. If someone forced me to have one back as manager for a year I'd pick Megson.

 

Coyle was absolutely appalling. He took a decent side down that year. Megson sucked the life out of the place, but did grind out results here and there. 

[Dr Faustus]

PPG for me... Coyle should have a better record, but look at the progression made under each... Coyle's impact on the club is far more drastic than his predecessor's

[Zico]

is it bollocks

 

only sky care about win ratio

 

ppg every time...whoever it favours!

 

clearly you don't, but it's still a decent benchmark 

 

as for PPG

 

Megson

P: 98

W: 27

D: 26

L: 45

 

Points: 107

PPG: 0.91

 

Win Ratio(%): 27.5

 

Coyle

 

P: 126

W: 42

D: 24

L: 60

 

Points: 150

PPG: 0.84

 

Win Ratio(%): 33.3

 

But you knew that already

 

as it makes Freedman better than them both

 

edit: it doesn't, it confirms he was the worst

Edited January 29, 2018 by ZicoKelly

[Casino]

you said win ratio was as objective as it gets

 

it isnt as it potentially disregards some good results

 

now, carry on

[Casino]

and as for the coyle/megson debate, look at the team captain clap left behind

 

utter dung

[Zico]

you said win ratio was as objective as it gets

 

it isnt as it potentially disregards some good results

 

now, carry on

 

well, said it was as about as objective as it gets, PPG also good, but win ratio is still a good, objective metric

 

could go for loss ratio instead

 

Megson - 45%

Coyle - 47%

 

whichever way you look at it, there isn't much in it

 

certainly not enough to say one is average and one is fucking awful

 

then it gets subjective

 

and we'll be here all day

 

like we have on many many days before

 

that team coyle left behind shoud've stayed up and should've gone straight back up, and it was his fault it didn't

 

he also added stuart holden to megson's team and took them from a dour, struggling outfit to one of the best footballing teams we've ever had

 

when lisbon gets mentioned it's time to lock the thread

[RUREADY2ROLL]

We were loving it when Coyle had us playing flowing football; wolves away was superb

 

Like people said where he went wrong was spunging the little money we had buying rubbish and putting us further in debt; he was responsible for our demise but he should not have been allowed to spend what we didnt have.

 

Always liked him as a person until he fucked up against West Brom bringing on CYL when we needed to see the game out; hated him ever since

[enzo gambaro]

Lisbon.

[Guest]

We were loving it when Coyle had us playing flowing football; wolves away was superb

 

Like people said where he went wrong was spunging the little money we had buying rubbish and putting us further in debt; he was responsible for our demise but he should not have been allowed to spend what we didnt have.

 

Always liked him as a person until he fucked up against West Brom bringing on CYL when we needed to see the game out; hated him ever since

 

Coyle got lucky. Holden was a great player who just exploded onto the scene and he managed to get Elmander playing well. We had decent players and the reality was that it didn't take much to turn it round.

 

However, beyond the initial lift, he showed he had no skills in management. Major decisions were wrong, behind the scenes planning and preparation non-existent. That's fine when things are going well but you'll always hit a rough spot and even average managers find ways to turn it round. Coyle simply couldn't. And his decisions weren't just bad, they were inexcusable. Signing Sordell is without doubt the most confused piece of thinking ever, and one that to this day costs us dearly. 

[Zico]

Coyle got lucky. Holden was a great player who just exploded onto the scene and he managed to get Elmander playing well. We had decent players and the reality was that it didn't take much to turn it round.

 

However, beyond the initial lift, he showed he had no skills in management. Major decisions were wrong, behind the scenes planning and preparation non-existent. That's fine when things are going well but you'll always hit a rough spot and even average managers find ways to turn it round. Coyle simply couldn't. And his decisions weren't just bad, they were inexcusable. Signing Sordell is without doubt the most confused piece of thinking ever, and one that to this day costs us dearly. 

 

agree with that

 

but if it didn't take much to turn it round, it doesn't reflect well on Megson

 

there are traits in both that the other lacked which would've made them a better manager