So moving on after yesterday’s disappointment i strangely fancy a draw 

as per the hardcore will be in attendance with 400 others 

1-1 

15 hours ago, mickbrown said:

I don’t see the point of the Turkish fella. 

Just catching up

Last night proved we can play 442 cos we played 441 and didn't get battered

Donaldson is the best striker for holding ball up 

442 for me against Swansea 

I’ve seen the last 4 of the last 5 away games, “live” and “sober”.

In every one we deserved nothing and it was so bloody comfortable for the home team.

Once we concede you know it’s game over.

 We create next to nothing as the stats clearly show and we’re a horrible, tedious watch.

We got one point in these 4 games, at Rotherham and we didn’t deserve that.

And that’s only the away games.

Something has to change......

 

 

Edited November 3, 20187 yr by captainmed

3 minutes ago, captainmed said:

I’ve seen the last 4 games away games, “live” and “sober”.

In every one we deserved nothing and it was so bloody comfortable for the home team.

Once we concede you know it’s game over.

 We create next to nothing as the stats clearly show and we’re a horrible, tedious watch.

We got one point in these 4 games, at Rotherham and we didn’t deserve that.

And that’s only the away games.

Something has to change......

 

 

Home form is the key, that’s where we’ve been shocking. We’ve 2 away wins and a couple of draws which is passable. 

Edited November 3, 20187 yr by Mounts Kipper

I get all the "Parky Out!" viewpoints but I can't help thinking fondly of our opening few games of the season. What did Parky do then that he isn't doing now? I get that Le Fonre went but he'd barely starred in the first few games.

It didn't take long for teams to start to exploit our weakness (not being able to play football) so what happened at WBA, Reading, etc.?

1 minute ago, MickyD said:

I get all the "Parky Out!" viewpoints but I can't help thinking fondly of our opening few games of the season. What did Parky do then that he isn't doing now? I get that Le Fonre went but he'd barely starred in the first few games.

It didn't take long for teams to start to exploit our weakness (not being able to play football) so what happened at WBA, Reading, etc.?

We had a great deal of luck in those early games tbf 

I don't think we were lucky at reading but aye, we rode our luck

And we had ameobi

Alnwick made a few saves to keep us in at Reading 

It's his job, matey

urgh . 

the only plus is we're not getting beat by 3 clear goals every week. 

16 hours ago, mickbrown said:

I'd play Williams where Oz is playing. Have him further forward. He can take the ball on the turn, he can run at defenders and he can pick a pass. I've yet to see Oz do that.

And I hate to say this about Oz, as he's probably had it all his life, but he's just too small. And it does matter.

On a slightly related note, I read an interview with David Brookes (Bournemouth, ex Sheff U) in the Mirror today in which he said that after City released him around 4 years ago Bolton turned him down because he was too small. That inspired decision cost us about £10mil.

The stark reality is that we are useless going forward without ameobi. We are a one man team unfortunately, and unless he stays fit, were going to be in and around the bottom 5 or 6 most of the season.

After today’s results were a point off 2nd bottom.

 

6 hours ago, Eddie said:

For me the most obvious problem that we have is that we don’t score goals, 3 in 15 hours of football is embarrassing. Without scoring there is so much pressure on keeping clean sheets and we’re just not good enough to keep enough of them.

Our best chance of goals is Doidge, his record shows that, albeit in a lower league, and his finish at Rotherham was one that no other player in our team could have done. If Parky doesn’t think he can play up top on his own then pick whoever is better out of Magennis and Donaldson and play them as a 2, give them 5 games together, let them train together as a partnership for a few weeks.

Work back from there. I’d say the current “wingers” are useless so until Ameobi comes back you could either go down the route of a narrow midfield 4 with Oztumer in the 10 role and 3 behind, probably Lowe, Williams and Vela/Murphy or go 352. Both systems have their weak points, the narrow midfield puts pressure on the full backs and you need your midfield 3 to get out wide and cover but that’s the kind of stuff you should be working on in training to solve. 352 has more issues for me, I do think that we now have centre backs that are more comfortable in that system, Wilson is a lot happier than Beevers to shift out to left back and Hobbs is better than any of last years options, but we don’t really have the wingbacks. Olkowski has been one of our better players but looks lost as a wingback and then the left wingback position is a choice of 3 bad options.

There isn’t an easy option, but doing what he’s doing at the moment, different formations, 5 changes, not giving anyone a run to find some form, confusion all over the pitch. It smacks of just throwing ideas out there and hoping one works, without actually working on anything. There’s no plan and it’s looking more and more like the desperation at the end of Lennon’s stint.

I hope he turns it round because you can’t argue with what he’s done for the club, but hiding behind the same excuses whilst hoping one of his many approaches somehow works or Ameobi comes back as the saviour once again is tedious.

Absolutely spot on. 2 up front supported by Oz or Ireland, and Ameobi. Williams and Lowe defensive mid. Ditch rubbish wingers. 4 man defence. And stick with it for half a dozen games, tell them he believes in them. 

7 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

On a slightly related note, I read an interview with David Brookes (Bournemouth, ex Sheff U) in the Mirror today in which he said that after City released him around 4 years ago Bolton turned him down because he was too small. That inspired decision cost us about £10mil.

Out of interest, do you think he's the only player we turned down

Or do you think there might be fcuking hundreds

And do you think there's only us turned down the fantastic opportunity to sign him

18 minutes ago, Casino said:

Out of interest, do you think he's the only player we turned down

Or do you think there might be fcuking hundreds

And do you think there's only us turned down the fantastic opportunity to sign him

Turning players down who go on to do well elsewhere is an occupational hazard. Turning players down because they're too small (if that really was the case) would be pretty stupid. The greatest player in the world for the last ten years should have put such nonsense to bed

29 minutes ago, Casino said:

Out of interest, do you think he's the only player we turned down

Or do you think there might be fcuking hundreds

And do you think there's only us turned down the fantastic opportunity to sign him

We also turned down Alan Ball for the same reason. 

3 hours ago, Casino said:

I don't think we were lucky at reading but aye, we rode our luck

And we had ameobi

If Reading had decent forwards we would have easily lost that one 

43 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

On a slightly related note, I read an interview with David Brookes (Bournemouth, ex Sheff U) in the Mirror today in which he said that after City released him around 4 years ago Bolton turned him down because he was too small. That inspired decision cost us about £10mil.

That old shit argument 

You'll be moaning about Walters and mooy next

Fair point

Despite what is said in the article I'd think it's much nearer the truth that we didn't think he was good enough

19 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said:

If Reading had decent forwards we would have easily lost that one 

But they haven't

Like we haven't

It's why they are as shit as us  

Anyway, Brooks left city at 17

He's 5 feet 10, ffs

Hardly a bloody midget

Wiki has him at 5 10

Mail at 5 6

5 2 at the time he left city

Anyway, I still don't think we turned him down cos he was two small

Reading about him, sheff Utd almost got shut of him to chesterfield

Brooks is quality how someone can’t see that is beyond me.

57 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Brooks is quality how someone can’t see that is beyond me.

We are not talking about now

We are talking about 4 years ago

In fact, less than that, when sheff Utd were happy to swap him for chef evans