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  • Really pissed off with Hales

  • Tonge moor green jacket
    Tonge moor green jacket

    Fair assessment I reckon. To see a world record today, that may last for many a year, is something to pass down the generations.

  • Tonge moor green jacket
    Tonge moor green jacket

    Oh aye. One they didn't put up was the shittest fielding!

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Aye, impressed. Their support was good and having a good time. Good atmosphere.

Really want to give the Aussies a bloody nose on Tuesday. Send Warner away crying.

3 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Solid bowling performance today.

Batting not so solid

Total shite.

Hope the old boys club are enjoying watching Vince instead of Hales. 

We lost the toss today, but hopefully they learn from this that chasing in a world cup is different to the 2nd match of a 7 match series. Runs on the board has to be our best approach whenever we get the choice.

1 hour ago, maaarsh said:

Total shite.

Hope the old boys club are enjoying watching Vince instead of Hales. 

We lost the toss today, but hopefully they learn from this that chasing in a world cup is different to the 2nd match of a 7 match series. Runs on the board has to be our best approach whenever we get the choice.

To be fair, (unless I misheard) Morgan did say after the toss that they would have batted first also.

 

56 minutes ago, Alf Hartigan said:

To be fair, (unless I misheard) Morgan did say after the toss that they would have batted first also.

 

Yes, he reckoned it would be better to bat first.

That said, there were too many poor efforts by the batsmen.

Ali has a questionable temperament when the pressure is on.

The commentators said they'd been practicing with the bowling machine set to mimic Malinga. Yet they batted as if they'd never seen him before.

If we lose to the sand paper men, the players' arses might start to go.

12 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Yes, he reckoned it would be better to bat first.

That said, there were too many poor efforts by the batsmen.

Ali has a questionable temperament when the pressure is on.

The commentators said they'd been practicing with the bowling machine set to mimic Malinga. Yet they batted as if they'd never seen him before.

If we lose to the sand paper men, the players' arses might start to go.

He does seem to be quite good at putting the cherry on top, but a bit of a waste of space when you still need someone to bake the cake. Selectors need to treat him as a spinner who bats no better than plunkett and choose accordingly.

India struggling

12 hours ago, maaarsh said:

He does seem to be quite good at putting the cherry on top, but a bit of a waste of space when you still need someone to bake the cake. Selectors need to treat him as a spinner who bats no better than plunkett and choose accordingly.

Strangely, the success of batsmen higher up in most games, deprives him of time at the crease, which obviously means he doesn't get the same amount of match practice. I'm sure I've heard commentators say he's a confidence player and presumably it doesn't help.

Perhaps open with Root, as done earlier, and put Ali in after when he has more time to build and not the same pressure. He's batted all over the place in test cricket and one day cricket.

Also seems that Vince has been the one to try to get things moving early on, when you'd expect Bairstow to be the one filling Roy's role.

Has to be mental with these England batsmen. They were virtually unstoppable now in the WC they can't chase 230 against a bowling attack led by a near 40 year old fatty....its not ability - has to be in the head.

Ali is shocking but outside a world cup he'd not even have got a bat chasing 230 odd. 

Vince is utter garbage and should never ever have been picked.

But Bairstow looks shaky, Buttler looks shaky and Roy is injured. The thing for England has been they've done well when the openers have got on top of the rate early and cracked it about for the first ten. But in this WC we've lost Roy, Hales isn't in, Bairstow has been out first ball twice - and Vince is rubbish. And that has affected our batting all the way down. When Roy and Hales and latterly Roy and Bairstow were making 60-70 odd in the first ten if not more, they set a platform, put the bowling team on the backfoot and the middle order came in and sorted the rest out. The way we start the chase is causing a problem and the middle order doesn't look so good when the rate hasn't been conquered early. 

Another win for Bangladesh; by no means a given that England will qualify.

Tomorrow is huge.

Given the struggles with Malinga, they will have to improve against stark- he's another who will get the Yorkers in with pace.

14 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Another win for Bangladesh; by no means a given that England will qualify.

Tomorrow is huge.

Given the struggles with Malinga, they will have to improve against stark- he's another who will get the Yorkers in with pace.

I really do not fancy England all that much today. Aussies have no pressure as they don't need a win- its at Lords where they usually do well and its likely to be the sort of pitch the Aussies like to play on. For me England have to find their mental strength again but once it goes in a tournament I wonder if you can get it back?

Going to get absolutely battered today it seems. Not sure about bowling first - conditions were in favour but we cannot chase totals in this WC so far.

Fortunately they're not yet getting away. A decent opening stand a d all is not lost.

 

16 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Fortunately they're not yet getting away. A decent opening stand a d all is not lost.

 

Against their bowling we are facing a very, very challenging total here unless they collapse completely from here. 

Collapse is on....

England need to be really sharp now and keep this below 280...

Could be a classic this. Decent score from Australia but certainly achievable.

England fought back well and have a chance. Australia favourites from here though. 280 looks a big score here. Rarely been chased down at Lords that sort of total. 

In the modern era scores are so much bigger, that chases would be better considered over the last 5-10 years.

I'll stick my neck out and say if Vince and Bairstow get a solid partnership of around 60 for the first wicket the we'll be ok.

A bit of a start will instill confidence. Also being watchful of Starc and his direct, full balls.

4 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

In the modern era scores are so much bigger, that chases would be better considered over the last 5-10 years.

I'll stick my neck out and say if Vince and Bairstow get a solid partnership of around 60 for the first wicket the we'll be ok.

A bit of a start will instill confidence. Also being watchful of Starc and his direct, full balls.

The World Cup though chases haven’t exactly been successful for many. Perhaps it’s the slower stickier pitches the ICC have cultivated or the pressure. Only one chase over 300. And we just failed to chase 233 against a far weaker attack. 

Normally England should knock these off no bother. This World Cup though...have to say odds seem against. Better than the 340 it looked like being at one point though.

Vince gone second ball....what a surprise!

4 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

Vince gone second ball....what a surprise!

No fucker hits that.

It's a lesson to our opening bowlers though- they got the ball doing stuff but off too short a length, so not threatening the stumps.

As for the chase, we scored far more against Pakistan: fewer needed this time to win.

 

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Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said:

No fucker hits that.

It's a lesson to our opening bowlers though- they got the ball doing stuff but off to short a length, so not threatening the stumps.

As for the chase, we scored far more against Pakistan: fewer needed this time to win.

 

Its a great ball. Still I think better players have half a chance. Personally think 285 will look a very big score by the end of today. England need to see this spell through then they need to score. No point trying to pace this innings because their quicks are tough to score off in the last ten. 

Vince should be nowhere near this side IMO. 

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