Is it kicking off big time or is this just everyday stuff they deal with or a bit of both?

 

As of yesterday, sub 10 Israelis dead, over 100 Arabs

It's not me talking bollocks

Just now, Casino said:

As of yesterday, sub 10 Israelis dead, over 100 Arabs

It's not me talking bollocks

Maybe Israel have a better defence system for the thousands of missiles fired ?  

Not to mention Iran backing them,  link was uploaded last night before you ask.

Just now, miamiwhite said:

Maybe Israel have a better defence system for the thousands of missiles fired ?  

To be fair, defence doesn’t kill folk, offence does.

4 minutes ago, MickyD said:

To be fair, defence doesn’t kill folk, offence does.

Right then, how many would be dead in Israel if they were without their amazing Iron Dome defence system ?

Edited May 15, 20215 yr by miamiwhite

5 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

Right then, how many would be dead in Israel if they were without their amazing Iron Dome defence system ?

Lots for sure, I am not sure anyone is saying it is right to fire rockets indiscriminately into populated areas.

I have to question the Israeli actions that led to this latest shitstorm though. At the same time they have the right to defend themselves from attack.

16 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

What about all the missiles fired from the Palestinians  ?

Stop talking one sided bollocks lad.

Aye, Iran doing a great job of exporting rocks.

Just up against a very fine military with a fine weapons production industry behind them.

14 minutes ago, MickyD said:

To be fair, defence doesn’t kill folk, offence does.

Useful to have a good defence then?

Maybe the Iranians should make one. 

1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Aye, Iran doing a great job of exporting rocks.

Just up against a very fine military with a fine weapons production industry behind them.

Exactly mate. The amaurosis on here from some folk is disgusting. I presume they missed the clip the other night of over a 1,000 rockets being fired into Israel. Sticks and stones my typhlotic arse.

10 vs 100- is that the best way to judge who's the most cunty?

Kinell, both as bad as each other, but, as that Sheffield United striker showed- if you don't a good twatting, don't prod the hornets nest.

2 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Useful to have a good defence then?

Maybe the Iranians should make one. 

They're too busy with their nuclear programme intent on wiping Israel off the map.

1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

10 vs 100- is that the best way to judge who's the most cunty?

Kinell, both as bad as each other, but, as that Sheffield United striker showed- if you don't a good twatting, don't prod the hornets nest.

That's all he has got mate, won't answer re the countless missile attacks.

5 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

10 vs 100- is that the best way to judge who's the most cunty?

Kinell, both as bad as each other, but, as that Sheffield United striker showed- if you don't a good twatting, don't prod the hornets nest.

I guarantee Israel wouldn’t fire rockets into Palestine if not provoked. Hamas are the cunts. 

Even a simpleton can't be excused for not getting the sticks and stones analogy

 

Just now, Mounts Kipper said:

I guarantee Israel wouldn’t fire rockets into Palestine if not provoked. Hamas are the cunts. 

Hamas are a terrorist group

Israel are supposed to be better than that

they're not

 

Just now, Casino said:

Even a simpleton can't be excused for not getting the sticks and stones analogy

 

Don't try and excuse yourself with that bullshit analogy.

Like Mounts rightly says, Israel are defending theirselves here and many people are supporting the Palestinians which you won't point out.

3 minutes ago, Casino said:

Hamas are a terrorist group

Israel are supposed to be better than that

they're not

 

You have to take into account how Jews have been persecuted throughout history, surrounded by Islamic countries who swear death to the state of Israel, any sign of weakness will result in more not less aggression. Israel have every right to retaliate, I back them 100% over any and every Arab/Islamic state. 

10 minutes ago, Casino said:

Even a simpleton can't be excused for not getting the sticks and stones analogy

 

Israel using artillery pieces tol; far more old hat than a modern rocket.

Your analogy is shite. Both kill readily. However as the terrorist organisation is firing them, are you suggesting Israel shouldn't fire back?

I'm more than critical of Israel's general behaviour- having your home seized is bound to bring about aggression, but knowing you're facing an enemy capable of such behaviour, chucking rockets indiscriminately at them is only going to yield a stronger response.

 

So that excuses em breaching UN resolutions for fun does it?

Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Israel using artillery pieces tol; far more old hat than a modern rocket.

Your analogy is shite. Both kill readily. However as the terrorist organisation is firing them, are you suggesting Israel shouldn't fire back?

I'm more than critical of Israel's general behaviour- having your home seized is bound to bring about aggression, but knowing you're facing an enemy capable of such behaviour, chucking rockets indiscriminately at them is only going to yield a stronger response.

 

It's fucking stupid

I agree

But what else can they do in the face of what Israel get away with

That's my point

1 minute ago, Casino said:

So that excuses em breaching UN resolutions for fun does it?

Hamas don’t start the shit then it won’t happen. 

3 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

You have to take into account how Jews have been persecuted throughout history, surrounded by Islamic countries who swear death to the state of Israel, any sign of weakness will result in more not less aggression. Israel have every right to retaliate, I back them 100% over any and every Arab/Islamic state. 

I wonder if the mosques in the holy parts of Jerusalem could be taken down and rebuilt elsewhere, or shift the Jewish bits into Tel Aviv or elsewhere?

Just separate the nobbers and build a wall.

4 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

I wonder if the mosques in the holy parts of Jerusalem could be taken down and rebuilt elsewhere, or shift the Jewish bits into Tel Aviv or elsewhere?

Just separate the nobbers and build a wall.

Doubt it’s possible Jerusalem is a holy city for all religions. 

8 minutes ago, Casino said:

It's fucking stupid

I agree

But what else can they do in the face of what Israel get away with

That's my point

Give up allowing Iran to use them as a proxy in their attempt to destroy Israel.

Hamas are a terrorist group, and no doubt extreme: If they had their way no doubt "Palestine" would become a very extreme place with no desire to get on with their neighbours. 

Egypt eventually did give it up.

Until they stop splintering and having their own tribal agendas, there is no chance.

Come together, stop lobbing rockets, then they will have much more support. Trump has gone now, and the new chap is much more in tune with their plight.

Get a more open minded USA on board and the UN may grow more balls in its attitude towards Israel, and who knows, sanctions may follow. Just like they do with Iran.

 

Edited May 15, 20215 yr by Tonge moor green jacket

This is a very good read indeed.

 

https://besacenter.org/do-arabs-hate-palestinians/