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Direct Debits

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Just now, Escobarp said:

Read the clauses fromage. But anyway Like I say my time was wasted working in the industry. 
 

I’m away now to clean some vans 

esco 

I have. Nowhere does it say they will persue you for payment for matches you haven't attended.

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With a direct debit isn't it via a finance company rather than the club - they in turn release money to the club in advance?

2 minutes ago, Youri McAnespie said:

With a direct debit isn't it via a finance company rather than the club - they in turn release money to the club in advance?

Nope. It goes straight to the club. Or "Football Ventures Whites Limited" to be specific.

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FVWL Football Limited t/a Bolton Wanderers Football Club is charging you £24.80 for BWFC

To confirm, the amount above is "24 Pounds and 80 Pence".

We will debit your bank account ********  by Direct Debit on or shortly after January 4, 2022.

This payment will appear on your bank statement as Bolton Wanderers, ref: F26****.

We will notify you via email at least 3 working days in advance of any changes to your payment date or amount.

 

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Just now, Cheese said:

Nope. It goes straight to the club.

Which further reinforces my point. No need to post the dd terms then. As I’m right 😚

 

esco

1 minute ago, Escobarp said:

Which further reinforces my point. No need to post the dd terms then. As I’m right 😚

 

esco

No it doesn't. If it was a Finance company, it would be treated as a loan. The club don't lend you the money, to be paid back in installments...

2 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Nope. It goes straight to the club.

I thought Sweaty had set up some deal with a financier to get the ST cash in advance and probably trouser it so him and his cunt son could lie in their Monaco pool like fat blobs laughing at us...

3 minutes ago, Cheese said:

I have. Nowhere does it say they will persue you for payment for matches you haven't attended.

Right ok. Simpleton terms 

when you buy the season ticket it costs x

the dd agreement is a method of paying x that’s all  nothing more nothing less  nowhere does it say you don’t have to pay x   If this or that happens   

the club has the right to cancel the ticket or suspend as it sees fit and doesn’t have to refund for unused portions as per the legal clauses I’ve highlighter. 
 

as such by the fact you agreed to pay x for it the club has a legal right to expect you to pay x for it in full if it chooses. And thus it can continue to take the direct debits or if they stop can pursue you for the balance. 
 

thus x remains payable. Whether the ticket remains live or not. 
 

but honestly if you think you’re right that’s ok

 

esco 

 

1 minute ago, Cheese said:

No it doesn't. If it was a Finance company, it would be treated as a loan. The club don't lend you the money, to be paid back in installments...

Read above 

 

esco 

Imagine living in a world where you believe you’re never wrong but often are but never ever admit it. 
 

must  be hard work. 
 

esco 

6 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Nope. It goes straight to the club. Or "Football Ventures Whites Limited" to be specific.

 

When I get one I just buy it outright - as I'm not a tramp, same with gym membership, but not bothered with either since the lockdown, I've been to both but just paid as I went, including Ifollow, or the odd Sky one.

36 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Imagine living in a world where you believe you’re never wrong but often are but never ever admit it. 
 

must  be hard work. 
 

esco 

Imagine living in a world where you think Finance on a car is the same as a Season Ticket at a football club.

1 minute ago, Cheese said:

Imagine living in a world where you think Finance on a car is the same as a Season Ticket at a football club.

I don’t. Do you know someone who does? Or someone who works in finance in the Motor industry? 

Imagine posting terms and conditions. Not reading them. Then someone points you to two clauses in them terms you posted. And then ignoring that as it doesn’t suit 

thats an ill individual. Very poorly 

but this individual has form for this. Many examples of this. Sadly. 
 

esco 

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Just now, Escobarp said:

I don’t. Do you know someone who does? Or someone who works in finance in the Motor industry? 

So your career in Finance involved Season Tickets at Football Clubs? You should've said.

Just now, Cheese said:

So your career in Finance involved Season Tickets at Football Clubs? You should've said.

No it involved corporate banking 😘
 

But I can read. You clearly can’t 

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Just now, Escobarp said:

Imagine posting terms and conditions. Not reading them. Then someone points you to two clauses in them terms you posted. And then ignoring that as it doesn’t suit 

thats an ill individual. Very poorly 

but this individual has form for this. Many examples of this. Sadly. 
 

esco 

Neither of the clauses you pointed to back up your claims though... You aren't entering a credit agreement when you buy a season ticket. If you cancel your Direct Debit, your ticket is cancelled and you probably won't be able to get one in future. Simple as that.

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5 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Neither of the clauses you pointed to back up your claims though... You aren't entering a credit agreement when you buy a season ticket. If you cancel your Direct Debit, your ticket is cancelled and you probably won't be able to get one in future. Simple as that.

The clauses are in the terms and conditions of the season ticket. You posted them

 read the clauses. Or don’t. I don’t care. Get help mate 

 

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1 minute ago, Dr Faustus said:

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Made me remember why I stopped engaging with the lunatic so thank you 😎

 

Esco 

2 hours ago, Cheese said:

I read it quite different, in that they'll just withdraw your Season Ticket and may prevent you from making future purchases.

That's how I read it too.

Can't claim a refund for any unused bit, but does it say you have to pay if not already done so?

11 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Made me remember why I stopped engaging with the lunatic so thank you 😎

 

Esco 

Doesn't take much for you to resort to personal insults does it? Ta-ra

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15 minutes ago, Dr Faustus said:

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Proper made me giggle that

Right so reading further, I get what esco is saying, but it's not exactly clear on those terms.

Anyway, best course of action is to speak to someone politely, and maybe grovel a bit.

Why antagonise.

17 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Doesn't take much for you to resort to personal insults does it? Ta-ra

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No personal insults. Your a loony 😎. I’m a loony I don’t see it as an insult. It’s just who I am. Embrace it fromage my old Mucker 

if you have taken offence then I apologize 

 

esco 

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