7 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Jail Time 

 

 

 

 

though he did go at them with some sort of weapon that was well OTT

good to see he was able to get up afterwards at least

 

7 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Jail Time 

 

 

 

 

Bloody immigrants made them do it.

45 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Bloody immigrants made them do it.

You really are a strange fish

50 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Bloody immigrants made them do it.

How do you know they aren't immigrants? 

Bit racist judging someone on their skin colour.

1 minute ago, gonzo said:

How do you know they aren't immigrants? 

Bit racist judging someone on their skin colour.

They probably are. Bloody immigrants.

 

 

6 hours ago, kent_white said:

I put these two in the same file as paedo hunters. 

In their (admittedly not very sophisticated minds) they will absolutely believe they are doing the right thing. 

I'm reality - they're just getting in the way and complicating what is already a complicated scenario. 

And if they were doing it anonymously (like hunt sabs for example) - I'd be right behind them. But I think they're really doing it for their own egos. 

Precisely mate

 I tried pointing out they were only making things worse & tarring all asylum seekers with the same brush… only to be told I don’t know what facts are & that I’m being contradictory. Both claims that RW is yet to elaborate on 😄 no surprise there.

 Best start looking at more graphs. 

9 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Precisely mate

 I tried pointing out they were only making things worse & tarring all asylum seekers with the same brush… only to be told I don’t know what facts are & that I’m being contradictory. Both claims that RW is yet to elaborate on 😄 no surprise there.

 Best start looking at more graphs. 

was highlighting that it’s weird that you are in full agreement with the police when a minority of football fans are being a nuisance and agreeing with them being banned yet when it’s a minority of asylum seekers being wrong uns it’s a case of “ it’s not all of um” 

Did you take notice of Ajax’s recent game 😉

1 hour ago, royal white said:

was highlighting that it’s weird that you are in full agreement with the police when a minority of football fans are being a nuisance and agreeing with them being banned yet when it’s a minority of asylum seekers being wrong uns it’s a case of “ it’s not all of um” 

Did you take notice of Ajax’s recent game 😉

If you care to look back to when the decision was made, I clearly said it wasn't fair on the peaceful contingent looking to travel to the game and they should find a way for them to come. I just acknowledged it was tricky for the police to manage because of Maccabi fans and local Muslims. 

Accusing me of not knowing facts - then coming out with a massive porkie 😄 Not your finest work mate.

What a bonkers Whatabout tangent to go down just because I criticised a couple of clowns for tarring all migrants with the same brush. 

 

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8 hours ago, Zico said:

like these and some of them paedo hunters I think that they're obviously wrong uns who think that what they doing makes up for what else they've been up to in their lives

Ah. Cheese you mean?

2 hours ago, royal white said:

was highlighting that it’s weird that you are in full agreement with the police when a minority of football fans are being a nuisance and agreeing with them being banned yet when it’s a minority of asylum seekers being wrong uns it’s a case of “ it’s not all of um” 

Did you take notice of Ajax’s recent game 😉

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c98ng15qmy9o

BBC News. Hmmmm.

13 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c98ng15qmy9o

BBC News. Hmmmm.

Mr Guildford said: "The information provided from the Dutch was very, very clear in terms of they reflected on the days before, during and after the match as a result of clashes between the Maccabi ultras and the local Muslim community.

"In terms of what we were told, the ultras were very well organised, militaristic in the way that they operated. 

"They attacked members of the local community, including taxi drivers. Tore down flags. People were thrown into the river."

He added that the Dutch commanders were "unequivocal" that they "would never want to have Maccabi Tel Aviv playing in Amsterdam again in the future".

The ban was the "best way to minimise the risks" to the local community, players and fans, said Mr O'Hara.

"Had we allowed the fans and it had gone wrong I feel that I would be sitting here again anyway."

7 hours ago, London Wanderer said:

Mr Guildford said: "The information provided from the Dutch was very, very clear in terms of they reflected on the days before, during and after the match as a result of clashes between the Maccabi ultras and the local Muslim community.

"In terms of what we were told, the ultras were very well organised, militaristic in the way that they operated. 

"They attacked members of the local community, including taxi drivers. Tore down flags. People were thrown into the river."

He added that the Dutch commanders were "unequivocal" that they "would never want to have Maccabi Tel Aviv playing in Amsterdam again in the future".

The ban was the "best way to minimise the risks" to the local community, players and fans, said Mr O'Hara.

"Had we allowed the fans and it had gone wrong I feel that I would be sitting here again anyway."

''But mainly because we don't like Jews'

Was his next line. Shame on you for missing it out! 😋

9 hours ago, London Wanderer said:

Precisely mate

 I tried pointing out they were only making things worse & tarring all asylum seekers with the same brush… only to be told I don’t know what facts are & that I’m being contradictory. Both claims that RW is yet to elaborate on 😄 no surprise there.

 Best start looking at more graphs. 

All I know is the net immigration is down 2/3 in one year. But nobody seems to be talking about it. 

Or labouring under the misapprehension that out 'wealth creators ' are the ones leaving. Planefills of then. Private jets of course!

Why is nobody talking about this? Because if you spin it right you could claim that Labours actions since they took office have cut immigration into the UK by a third is 12 months. 

It's a hell of an achievement whoever was ultimately responsible for it.

And we're still on here arguing whether Tel Aviv should have been allowed to play villa 🙄

12 minutes ago, kent_white said:

All I know is the net immigration is down 2/3 in one year. But nobody seems to be talking about it. 

Or labouring under the misapprehension that out 'wealth creators ' are the ones leaving. Planefills of then. Private jets of course!

Why is nobody talking about this? Because if you spin it right you could claim that Labours actions since they took office have cut immigration into the UK by a third is 12 months. 

It's a hell of an achievement whoever was ultimately responsible for it.

And we're still on here arguing whether Tel Aviv should have been allowed to play villa 🙄

On this one a fair bit of credit has to go the changes made the Tories to visa requirements. There was some coverage on one of the news channels talking about the damage to the economy of stopping people on visas coming especially on Universities. 

2 hours ago, kent_white said:

''But mainly because we don't like Jews'

Was his next line. Shame on you for missing it out! 😋

You know what the driving force was for the ISIS council was in banning Maccabi Tel Aviv (oops, sorry 'Tel A Viv' fans - the teacher said so) fans.

Pure anti semitism. A core strength of the Labour Party.

1 hour ago, kent_white said:

All I know is the net immigration is down 2/3 in one year. But nobody seems to be talking about it. 

Or labouring under the misapprehension that out 'wealth creators ' are the ones leaving. Planefills of then. Private jets of course!

Why is nobody talking about this? Because if you spin it right you could claim that Labours actions since they took office have cut immigration into the UK by a third is 12 months. 

It's a hell of an achievement whoever was ultimately responsible for it.

And we're still on here arguing whether Tel Aviv should have been allowed to play villa 🙄

Stop trying to muddy the waters FFS. How are the productivity figures looking? Unemployment up to 5% - the highest since early 2021.

Be interesting to see how many hospitality businesses now close or significantly reduce their workforce to try to survive under the ideologically inspired activities of the incompetent oaf Starmer installed because she poses no threat to his position.

Big leap in the polls yet?

1 hour ago, Ani said:

On this one a fair bit of credit has to go the changes made the Tories to visa requirements. There was some coverage on one of the news channels talking about the damage to the economy of stopping people on visas coming especially on Universities. 

You won't get any of them to acknowledge this. Thankfully, those in the know are pointing this out.

We need more immigrants not less.

Immigrants that are here to pay in to the system and contribute. 

There's not enough people paying in.

 

9 hours ago, London Wanderer said:

Mr Guildford said: "The information provided from the Dutch was very, very clear in terms of they reflected on the days before, during and after the match as a result of clashes between the Maccabi ultras and the local Muslim community.

"In terms of what we were told, the ultras were very well organised, militaristic in the way that they operated. 

"They attacked members of the local community, including taxi drivers. Tore down flags. People were thrown into the river."

He added that the Dutch commanders were "unequivocal" that they "would never want to have Maccabi Tel Aviv playing in Amsterdam again in the future".

The ban was the "best way to minimise the risks" to the local community, players and fans, said Mr O'Hara.

"Had we allowed the fans and it had gone wrong I feel that I would be sitting here again anyway."

A flag.

A taxi driver, 

“people were thrown into the river” 😂😂 yes of course, you’re so fkin gullible 

 

Amsterdam police also made no reference in a detailed timeline provided to us of the notable claim by West Midlands Police that Maccabi fans threw "innocent members of the public into the river".

The five people convicted in Amsterdam were all for violence against Israelis.

5 minutes ago, gonzo said:

We need more immigrants not less.

Immigrants that are here to pay in to the system and contribute. 

There's not enough people paying in.

 

We took in over 900k last year. We can’t continue taking in numbers like that 

1 minute ago, royal white said:

We took in over 900k last year. We can’t continue taking in numbers like that 

Economic migrants not boat folk.

We need grafters to pay some tax.

An aging population, the welfare state is absolutely out of control, the bond markets are a few years from implosion.

There's just not enough cash going in the pot. 

Either we get more money from somewhere or someone further down the line is going to have to make some serious decisions. Major cuts etc. 

 

2 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Economic migrants not boat folk.

We need grafters to pay some tax.

An aging population, the welfare state is absolutely out of control, the bond markets are a few years from implosion.

There's just not enough cash going in the pot. 

Either we get more money from somewhere or someone further down the line is going to have to make some serious decisions. Major cuts etc. 

 

Boat folk will be approx 50k which well over half will be granted asylum. We are still taking in over 900k a year legally. 

19 minutes ago, gonzo said:

We need more immigrants not less.

Immigrants that are here to pay in to the system and contribute. 

There's not enough people paying in.

 

Sorry, but that is completely wrong.

The figures illustrate that the opposite is happening. The net effect is paying less in than is being taken out.

It puts intense, negative effects on housing and infrastructure, weakens wages, and is causing increasing isolationism within society. 

All the previous thinking is being broken down.

12 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Economic migrants not boat folk.

We need grafters to pay some tax.

An aging population, the welfare state is absolutely out of control, the bond markets are a few years from implosion.

There's just not enough cash going in the pot. 

Either we get more money from somewhere or someone further down the line is going to have to make some serious decisions. Major cuts etc. 

 

Government spending. Cut it. 

Civil service- cut it.

The issue isn't the amount coming in, it's the amount they spend, waste and abuse.

We're about to have trial by jury greatly reduced, yet courts don't exactly operate for as long as they could.

Some functions aren't available until 10.30 and stop around 4.00pm.

Time is lost because certain functions aren't available- translator, stenographer for example.

More money would come in as well if so many efficiency damaging rules weren't being imposed on business.