July 21, 20251 yr One in Manchester this afternoon/evening, on the back of two others in recent times. 15 hurt today. Coincidence or one for the conspiracy theorists?
July 21, 20251 yr If the driver of the one today is anything other than a 50 odd year old white bloke with Union Jack tattoos, then it’s a terrorist situation.
July 21, 20251 yr If you turn the volume right up you can hear the driver shouting “Alans snack bar” 95742f17-8f3b-4898-9831-f657468d08ec.mov
July 21, 20251 yr Have you seen the poor woman on the floor? Didn’t look good; how a bus has been sent on that route, driver not realised I’ll never know.
July 22, 20251 yr Another one today in Newton Heath https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1e0xw1jd3xo.amp Edited July 22, 20251 yr by fatolive Added link
July 22, 20251 yr 18 hours ago, Dr Faustus said: Have you seen the poor woman on the floor? Didn’t look good; how a bus has been sent on that route, driver not realised I’ll never know. The driver has been arrested "on suspicion of causing serious injury by careless driving" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1lj31l6rm1o However the thing that jumps out at me in that article Labour MP for Worsley and Eccles Michael Wheeler said the crash was "unacceptable". "It's not the first time this has happened, so after understanding what's happened we need to do everything we can to make sure it doesn't happen again," he told BBC Radio Manchester. A bus has previously had its roof ripped off after striking the same bridge in April 2023 They clearly didn't learn from the last time, but maybe this is not a good route for double decker buses to take
July 22, 20251 yr 3 hours ago, fatolive said: Another one today in Newton Heath https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1e0xw1jd3xo.amp Training bus that as well ffs. That bridge is notorious for buses and HGVs crashing and getting stuck under it
July 22, 20251 yr 1 hour ago, Zico said: The driver has been arrested "on suspicion of causing serious injury by careless driving" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1lj31l6rm1o However the thing that jumps out at me in that article Labour MP for Worsley and Eccles Michael Wheeler said the crash was "unacceptable". "It's not the first time this has happened, so after understanding what's happened we need to do everything we can to make sure it doesn't happen again," he told BBC Radio Manchester. A bus has previously had its roof ripped off after striking the same bridge in April 2023 They clearly didn't learn from the last time, but maybe this is not a good route for double decker buses to take Guessing whoever put a double decker on the 100 route will be culpable as well?
July 22, 20251 yr 4 hours ago, Zico said: The driver has been arrested "on suspicion of causing serious injury by careless driving" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1lj31l6rm1o However the thing that jumps out at me in that article Labour MP for Worsley and Eccles Michael Wheeler said the crash was "unacceptable". "It's not the first time this has happened, so after understanding what's happened we need to do everything we can to make sure it doesn't happen again," he told BBC Radio Manchester. A bus has previously had its roof ripped off after striking the same bridge in April 2023 They clearly didn't learn from the last time, but maybe this is not a good route for double decker buses to take As if they asked a bloke called Wheeler about it.
July 22, 20251 yr 4 hours ago, MancWanderer said: Training bus that as well ffs. That bridge is notorious for buses and HGVs crashing and getting stuck under it Can the road not be made deeper. Genuine question. Surely we can modify roads to stop this shit
July 22, 20251 yr 8 minutes ago, Big E said: Can the road not be made deeper. Genuine question. Surely we can modify roads to stop this shit Think it might be easier and cheaper to modify bus routes to avoid low bridges
July 22, 20251 yr 21 minutes ago, Big E said: Can the road not be made deeper. Genuine question. Surely we can modify roads to stop this shit Would be my first thought but in this instance that’s one hell of a railway track going over the top. I’m no engineer but I’m guessing the foundations may play a part? Happy to be corrected by anyone who knows more. Seems a lot of this type of incident is associated with railway bridges? 12 minutes ago, Zico said: Think it might be easier and cheaper to modify bus routes to avoid low bridges Possibly yeah but other roads not capable of bus traffic? I dunno. So tempted to disappear down some sort of wormhole to investigate
July 22, 20251 yr Author Digging the road deeper, may also result in drainage difficulties. Wouldn't be the first time flooding has happened in dips under bridges.
July 23, 20251 yr 3 hours ago, Big E said: Can the road not be made deeper. Genuine question. Surely we can modify roads to stop this shit It's a fair question. Few obstacles to overcome. Foundations probably won't be deep enough and would require modification/ enhancement. Whilst keeping a live railway line open. The paperwork would take half the remaining Amazon forest. Utilities to alter. You can't just make the bit of the road under the bridge deeper. You'd have to redo the levels on the approach both sides. The drainage would need lowering so gravity systems may no longer work so you're pumping stormwater. Pump fails and the road is closed. It's doable but costs more money than you'd think. So would guess easier to work around it.
July 23, 20251 yr Author 18 hours ago, jayjayoghani said: So would guess easier to work around it. Aye- don't drive a bus into the bridge. If that proves to be too difficult, then maybe fit double deckers with a similar type of emergency braking system that a tram has. Detector on the bridge, triggers emergency brakes on the bus.
July 23, 20251 yr All bus drivers should know the height of their bus. All bridges have their height clearly displayed. No excuses for the driver. Sheer, dangerous incompetence.
July 23, 20251 yr Author 3 minutes ago, DazBob said: All bus drivers should know the height of their bus. All bridges have their height clearly displayed. No excuses for the driver. Sheer, dangerous incompetence. It happens though, not just with buses neither. Are some of the drivers not seeing the height warnings, whilst looking at the road? Are they too familiar with the roads, and therefore don't think, if the bus is off-route or a double decker instead of a single? Prosecuting drivers is all well and good, but that's after the event. Prevention is better, and if technology can help then use it.
July 23, 20251 yr 1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Aye- don't drive a bus into the bridge. If that proves to be too difficult, then maybe fit double deckers with a similar type of emergency braking system that a tram has. Detector on the bridge, triggers emergency brakes on the bus. Detectors would be a good idea, however there’s also the chance they’d go off in the low hanging trees you see them twatting on various routes but can’t see why it can’t give a warning at least. can only think this is down to lack of concentration, maybe a driver used to doing that route in a single decker etc , you can’t miss the fact you are going under a bridge
July 23, 20251 yr 14 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: It happens though, not just with buses neither. Are some of the drivers not seeing the height warnings, whilst looking at the road? Are they too familiar with the roads, and therefore don't think, if the bus is off-route or a double decker instead of a single? Prosecuting drivers is all well and good, but that's after the event. Prevention is better, and if technology can help then use it. Road signs are perfectly fine They tell you what you can and can't do at the time Speed limits etc
July 23, 20251 yr 22 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Prosecuting drivers is all well and good, but that's after the event. That's usually because it happens after the event Bit like nicking drink drivers or speeding offenders
July 23, 20251 yr It’s an approved bus route. That one in Newton Heath. Enough warning signs. Looks almost like a challenge. Get through here without wrecking the bus and you’ve got your licence
July 23, 20251 yr 2 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Are some of the drivers not seeing the height warnings, whilst looking at the road? Anyone driving and not being able to see a sign/warning, because they are looking at the road, should not be driving at all. Let alone driving something with so many passengers. I do agree that there should be some sort of warning device though.
July 24, 20251 yr Get Prof. Pat Pending off Wacky Races involved. He'd have an accordion bus or summat - top deck gets lowered at the flick of a switch. Sign on the stairs saying top deck is only for kids and midgets.
July 24, 20251 yr Author 9 hours ago, DirtySanchez said: That's usually because it happens after the event Bit like nicking drink drivers or speeding offenders No shit! They are deliberate acts though. I'm fairly sure bus drivers don't deliberately crash into bridges. 9 hours ago, fatolive said: Detectors would be a good idea, however there’s also the chance they’d go off in the low hanging trees you see them twatting on various routes but can’t see why it can’t give a warning at least. can only think this is down to lack of concentration, maybe a driver used to doing that route in a single decker etc , you can’t miss the fact you are going under a bridge You would have some sort of signal emitting device on the bus, which is detected by a sensor on, or near the bridge. Fascinating looking along an avenue of trees and seeing the line where they are repeatedly pruned by passing high vehicles.
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