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When he went on to see the king , Charles said “ the last time I said “ Andy Burnham “ I was taking to my brother about some photos …

There’s a massive difference in accident rates and severe injuries since you started out in the 70s too mate . The rest, again, sorry but it’s not accurate to be polite . If you think more utility pipes and repairs took place in the 70s than in the last decade, there’s a whole host of stats to prove that wrong , but then again that will have been compiled on a laptop so you’ll probably dismiss it as modern bollocks.

Not much of that post is true to be honest mate, and we still have lane rental for works on highways . Some of it could be , ie paid no matter how long on site perhaps, but paid an agreed fee with penalties and responsibility for overrun so it’s not in the interests to be on site and to get the job done . Very few day rates now , price per meter / km on replacement work and badger like fuck if you hit an obstacle that prevents your daily targets . Risk averse, yes, but that’s a good thing, days of dig deep, throw well back and fuck the consequences so long as the pipes in are well gone .

I’m 56 , I still have imprints of the plastic seats in my dad’s Hilman avenger on the back of my kegs and remember the stink of the vynil roof and carpets . Whits post made me smile as it’s true . Must admit, always thought you were of a similar age, no idea why like .

Think that’s the point, they didn’t see him as the victim, they saw him as the perpetrator of the crime they’d been sent to investigate .

Possibly not no, if they’d been told there’d been “ just an attack “ , they may have just behaved the same in fairness, ie if both were white. I’m just going off the reports of the way racial attacks are trained to be dealt with and thinking the coppers mindset was that he was dealing with a perpetrator of that rather than a victim. it’s entirely feasible that it could have been two white lads, or even two Sikhs and the result of just being a shit copper lead to the same ending. But it’s also feasible the coppers mindset on the fact he was attending a race hate situation was a contributing factor on his decision making.

Agree They received a call saying there’d been racial abuse/ assault I don’t think there can be any doubt when they got there they had that in their mind and how they treated the situation and it’s both rank bad police negligence which could have been caused by the emphasis on dealing with racism training or how that copper interpreted that training, which obviously could be one leading to the other . I don’t think it’s two tier as such but I definitely think from watching that the assumption was that there had been a racial element from the victim and the training on how to deal with that contributed to their reaction . I don’t think they knew he’d been stabbed and just left him to die but fucking hell slumped over like he was handcuffing him without checking him over shows they thought they were dealing with a perpetrator rather than a victim before establishing the facts . Will only know that if they release what that training / process is , which I’m sure will come out in any enquiry

Oh I know that. There are well articulated genuine concerns too, which I agree with , I just found this bemusing and amusing

Course they don’t. there’s a church near us, recently converted and gone up to be a Syriac Christian church . syriac Christians seem to be from India , it’s always full and they have lots of celebrations there. in the local one Sunday after one had just finished, the local bore says to me: see that lot this afternoon? Fucking hell they’re all over place now, never thought we’d get one in Breightmet , disgraceful, Bolton council “ etc etc I pointed out that they were infact Christians, the church was Christian and it was more than likely a Christian celebration. his reply , “ you obviously didn’t see it, these were all Muslims , fuckin 100s of em” to which another halfwit then said, yeh, they’re Muslim Christians 🤷‍♂️ I made my excuses and left them to it at that stage , but obviously their appearance determined what they were, to those two at least .

Took a girl to a French restaurant on our first date. She had frogs legs and chicken breast . lovely personality though

Think it is a bit due to the simple fact that you possibly wouldn’t know an Irish person walking down the street unless you spoke to them so the numbers didn’t stand out coupled with the fact, let’s face it, no matter what any political differences some may have had , Irish people who came over here were generally living the same way as English people . Didn’t need to build churches as already here for those that wanted them . Same as Polish now tbh . course there were and are clubs for certain aspects of “ home” but by and large no different. Work , drink, sport . that said, I do remember the Irish jokes on tv and thinking why is that happening , my dads not thick etc along with a few incidents of name calling when bombs going off etc and sometimes it was upsetting, but nowhere near the same and the reason my dad settled in Bolton was because of the friendliness he’d been shown and how he met people like him just with different accents .

It is , without doubt, however, the advent of the printing press was also demonised the same when it first arrived , due to the propaganda it could spread faster and is credited for the schism in the church and the Protestant reformation, which luckily didn’t cause any issues at all across Europe … Though I agree social media is a factor , it’s the same issues, the speed of information to support a cause and how it’s used by those receiving it, just a different era and subject . there’s nowt new in this world

I do the line often , ( and ref sometimes) usually because no one else will , but then the same people who won’t do it become experts on off side and call every decision and whether a ball up by the corner flag was out when they’re at the halfway line with 20 people in the way , roaring and screaming. Kids football turns parents into abusive wankers , seen it for years .

Aye get all that, particularly the barometer effect, that’s dead right, but there’s people in frenzies about this one, as if all the foreign folk are getting deported come Friday .

I’m confused. it’s local elections, basically who is in charge of collecting the bins and local issues . the way Facebook is you’d think it was determining us getting a new parliament, or as some even seem to think a new leader of the country, some even think they are voting for “ Nigel” I know things can be read into the result as a measure of public feeling but fuck me nothing is going to change in terms of any national set up on Friday ?