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The Burnden "experience"

Following on from something Smiffs mentioned in another thread, i have to agree that we look back at Burnden with rose tinted specs. I would imagine that, if we were suddenly beamed back to Burnden now,we'd have a lot more moaners (although probably a lot less JCL's). I started going to Burnden as a kid in the sixties,and i can honestly say i can only remember the "special atmosphere" on maybe a couple of dozen occasions, the rest of the time is was an aniquated sh*thole, with less than 10,000 on, and on a wet wednesday night against the likes of Doncaster or Mansfield it could be thouroughly depressing. We HAD to move forward,or we would not be where we are now.What do you think, are our memories of Burnden seen through nostalgic, rose tinted specs?

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Following on from something Smiffs mentioned in another thread, i have to agree that we look back at Burnden with rose tinted specs. I would imagine that, if we were suddenly beamed back to Burnden now,we'd have a lot more moaners (although probably a lot less JCL's). I started going to Burnden as a kid in the sixties,and i can honestly say i can only remember the "special atmosphere" on maybe a couple of dozen occasions, the rest of the time is was an aniquated sh*thole, with less than 10,000 on, and on a wet wednesday night against the likes of Doncaster or Mansfield it could be thouroughly depressing. We HAD to move forward,or we would not be where we are now.What do you think, are our memories of Burnden seen through nostalgic, rose tinted specs?

 

i could not agree more there was some great nights at burnden but there has been some at the reebok as well such as staying up on the last day against boro, wining agaist west brom to make it to the play off final and beating charlton with 10 men to make it to the fa cup semi.

we cant go back to burnden so everyone needs to just live for the here and now who knows we could welcome big clubs in the champions league some day in the next few years and that would never have happened at burnden it just was not possible to stay there sadly

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Despite what i've said elswhere i do agree,

 

But,

 

Burnden-good beats reebok-good.

 

 

Fact

Despite what i've said elswhere i do agree,

 

But,

 

Burnden-good beats reebok-good.

Fact

 

 

Agree 100%

Following on from something Smiffs mentioned in another thread, i have to agree that we look back at Burnden with rose tinted specs. I would imagine that, if we were suddenly beamed back to Burnden now,we'd have a lot more moaners (although probably a lot less JCL's). I started going to Burnden as a kid in the sixties,and i can honestly say i can only remember the "special atmosphere" on maybe a couple of dozen occasions, the rest of the time is was an aniquated sh*thole, with less than 10,000 on, and on a wet wednesday night against the likes of Doncaster or Mansfield it could be thouroughly depressing. We HAD to move forward,or we would not be where we are now.What do you think, are our memories of Burnden seen through nostalgic, rose tinted specs?

 

 

I think its more the location what is the problem plus the new people it has attracted

if they had rebuilt burnden

we wouldant be talking about size of crowds , with out doubt we would have bigger averages and sell out most weeks.

:yahoo:

The Reebok is a great stadium but sadly the location spoils it. I miss the pub crawl from the town centre.

 

Night games at Burnden used to be good, with a great atmosphere, 7:30pm Kick offs and 10 minutes half time meant we could be back in the boozer by 9:25pm or for me home by 9:50pm in Rossendale and not nearly midnight as it seems to take does these days with the car park and traffic.

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Following on from something Smiffs mentioned in another thread, i have to agree that we look back at Burnden with rose tinted specs. I would imagine that, if we were suddenly beamed back to Burnden now,we'd have a lot more moaners (although probably a lot less JCL's). I started going to Burnden as a kid in the sixties,and i can honestly say i can only remember the "special atmosphere" on maybe a couple of dozen occasions, the rest of the time is was an aniquated sh*thole, with less than 10,000 on, and on a wet wednesday night against the likes of Doncaster or Mansfield it could be thouroughly depressing. We HAD to move forward,or we would not be where we are now.What do you think, are our memories of Burnden seen through nostalgic, rose tinted specs?

 

I think you're talking shite.

 

Lets not kid ourselves, going to Burnden was the f@cking nuts. Don't care who we were playing or how much rain there was, that feeling of arriving at Burnden and walking out onto the Paddock will never be beaten. Do the hairs stand up on the back of your neck walking out onto the ESL at The Reebok? No! In retrospect, we should have never left. Proper football, proper ground, proper fans. Compared to Burnden, you can shove The Reebok up your arse!

:drinks:

 

I'll drink to that.....Amen Brother.

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I THINK YOU'RE TALKING SHITE.

 

Lets not kid ourselves, going to Burnden was the f@cking nuts. Don't care who we were playing or how much rain there was, Do the hairs stand up on the back of your neck walking out onto the ESL at The Reebok?

 

talkin' shite? Maybe you just did the big games Kent.

 

Hand on heart - Can you tell me the hairs stood up on the back of your neck against - Doncaster,Darlington, York,Crewe,Mansfield,Rotherham, Shrewsbury, Colchester, Chesterfield,Plymouth,Exeter, etc etc etc etc?.

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talkin' shite?

 

Hand on heart - Can you tell ma the hairs stood up on the back of your neck against - Doncaster,Darlington, York,Crewe,Mansfield,Rotherham, Shrewsbury, Colchester, Chesterfield etc etc etc etc.

 

 

If the hair stood up on your neck after beating them teams, just imagine how it would feel walking out of a packed Burnden after beating Man U and Liverpool

I wish people would stop referring to the "Burnden experience" and the "match day experience" like a marketing student or an American. :roll:

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If the hair stood up on your neck after beating them teams, just imagine how it would feel walking out of a packed Burnden after beating Man U and Liverpool

 

So how many times did that happen within you're lifetime?

 

I'm not doggin' Burnden - i loved the gaff, just p@sses me off when people reminisce that it was Rip Roarin' every week, cos it fcukin wasn't.For every superb atmosphere - there was 50 bad 'uns

So how many times did that happen within you're lifetime?

 

I'm not doggin' Burnden - i loved the gaff, just p@sses me off when people reminisce that it was Rip Roarin' every week, cos it fcukin wasn't.For every superb atmosphere - there was 50 bad 'uns

 

 

Oh yes it was

burnden holds great memories for all bolton fans.2-2 .fa.cup l/pool,wolves,1-0,playoffs

.woles again.5-1 mass pitch battle first 5 mins,stopping sheff,u going up in final match,

stoke.city.f.a.cup on a sunday,3-2.sending preston down&gaining promotion,

i,m sorry i can;t go on anymore :cray: :bang:

Burnden was great sometimes, and other times it was shite. The simple fact is though that the shite Burnden times were much better than the shite Reebok ones.

 

I don't miss the place that much though i miss the people. The Reebok could be as good as Burnden but things would need to change (a lot). Its the people that made Burnden magic, those same people could improve things at the Reebok. Its too ragging easy moaning about everything, its about time people did something about it.

I loved the place...

 

Walking up the slope into the paddock was like running onto the pitch its self. The atmosphere was second to none and the famous burndnen slope at the side of the pitch was excellent. I knew the guys who stood round me by name and we all had a laugh... if I speak to the guy next to me now I get a grunt at best.

 

I haven't been a fan as long as a lot on here... my first game was a 6-0 win against Newport in '86 but I loved the place.

 

We needed to move though, the site on the Manny road simply wasn't big enough for us to build sa new stadium and cope with traffic and parking. The Reebok is excellent in design and infrastructure but it has lost the soul of Wanderers.

it is possible to make the match day experience "special" now with all the police and stewards?

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Oh yes it was

 

 

Yeah reet.

The Reebok is a great stadium but sadly the location spoils it. I miss the pub crawl from the town centre.

 

Too fookin true! But your wasting your time trying to explain it to most folk on here, Fookin clueless. :-k

there was no way the club could build the reebok (or a ground like it) at burnden! there wasnt the space.

 

95% of the games at burnden were sh??t!

 

but those 5% that were fantastic did seem better than the reebok, that'll come from the terracing, if the club was ever allowed to put terracing into the reebok then the atmosphere would be fantastic, but until the powers that be allow it we have to make the best of it!

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there was no way the club could build the reebok (or a ground like it) at burnden! there wasnt the space.

 

95% of the games at burnden were sh??t!

 

but those 5% that were fantastic did seem better than the reebok, that'll come from the terracing, if the club was ever allowed to put terracing into the reebok then the atmosphere would be fantastic, but until the powers that be allow it we have to make the best of it!

 

I'd say your sums are about right there Frank. The Reebok is a magnificent stadium,but it's down to the fans to create the noise. I would imagine fans from Citeh,Arsenal,Derby,Stoke, Southampton,Boro,Sunderland etc ALL have moans about their new grounds, but it's the route football had to take after Hillsborough,we're stuck with it - so lets try to make the best of it

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Following on from something Smiffs mentioned in another thread, i have to agree that we look back at Burnden with rose tinted specs. I would imagine that, if we were suddenly beamed back to Burnden now,we'd have a lot more moaners (although probably a lot less JCL's). I started going to Burnden as a kid in the sixties,and i can honestly say i can only remember the "special atmosphere" on maybe a couple of dozen occasions, the rest of the time is was an aniquated sh*thole, with less than 10,000 on, and on a wet wednesday night against the likes of Doncaster or Mansfield it could be thouroughly depressing. We HAD to move forward,or we would not be where we are now.What do you think, are our memories of Burnden seen through nostalgic, rose tinted specs?

 

Tough un for me that mate. Having been an (almost - must have missed a game somewhere) ever present at Burnden from the early 60's until early 88 and only having attended 12-15 games at the Reebok, I am afraid I would be the ultimate rose coloured spectacles mon. I have got to be honest, I always felt a buzz walking into Burnden no matter who we were playing or what the crowd was. Maybe it was just me but the ghosts of all that had gone before affected me every single time I was fortunate enough to walk into the place. My own formative years as a fresh faced kid on the Embankment and the respect which grew very rapidly for 'Warbys mob' followed by the Lever End skinhead years and then joining the ultimate fans in the Burnden Paddock would be enough to make it always special but the echoes of the past really did make it a 'hair standing up on the back of the neck job' on most occasions for me. Phrases, names and words that still make the chest burst with pride - Dick Pym, David Jack, Teddy Vizard, Burnden Disaster, Nat Lofthouse, Stan Hanson, Eddie Hopkinson, Great Lever End, Embankment, Manny Road, Burnden Paddock, John Byrom, Tommy Banks, Roy Hartle, Freddie Hill, Franny Lee, Wyn Davies, John McGinlay, Frankie Worthy, Peter Thompson, Roger Hunt etc., etc. The thought of the Reebok makes me want to get on my 'Sanitisation soapbox' again. Only two good things to say about it. 1) It is the home of my beloved BWFC. 2) Looks impressive from a distance lit up in the twilight.

Burnden lived and breathed for me and the souls of those who had gone before (including the thousands of fine Bowtoners whose ashes were scattered on the pitch) made it a place of almost religious pilgrimage. The Reebok could never replace that.

Tough un for me that mate. Having been an (almost - must have missed a game somewhere) ever present at Burnden from the early 60's until early 88 and only having attended 12-15 games at the Reebok, I am afraid I would be the ultimate rose coloured spectacles mon. I have got to be honest, I always felt a buzz walking into Burnden no matter who we were playing or what the crowd was. Maybe it was just me but the ghosts of all that had gone before affected me every single time I was fortunate enough to walk into the place. My own formative years as a fresh faced kid on the Embankment and the respect which grew very rapidly for 'Warbys mob' followed by the Lever End skinhead years and then joining the ultimate fans in the Burnden Paddock would be enough to make it always special but the echoes of the past really did make it a 'hair standing up on the back of the neck job' on most occasions for me. Phrases, names and words that still make the chest burst with pride - Dick Pym, David Jack, Teddy Vizard, Burnden Disaster, Nat Lofthouse, Stan Hanson, Eddie Hopkinson, Great Lever End, Embankment, Manny Road, Burnden Paddock, John Byrom, Tommy Banks, Roy Hartle, Freddie Hill, Franny Lee, Wyn Davies, John McGinlay, Frankie Worthy, Peter Thompson, Roger Hunt etc., etc. The thought of the Reebok makes me want to get on my 'Sanitisation soapbox' again. Only two good things to say about it. 1) It is the home of my beloved BWFC. 2) Looks impressive from a distance lit up in the twilight.

Burnden lived and breathed for me and the souls of those who had gone before (including the thousands of fine Bowtoners whose ashes were scattered on the pitch) made it a place of almost religious pilgrimage. The Reebok could never replace that.

 

Well said Bolty, I totally agree. :)

I think its more the location what is the problem plus the new people it has attracted

correct if you miss the bus or you're lift you're fcuked when coming from little hulton or farnworth :angry:

The difference for me is the rituals of a match day at Burnden, the whole day planned and pretty much the same every week. I always felt that there was stonger feeling of togetherness with all the fans when at Burnden. I even miss trying to avoid the puddles at the back of Burnden Terrace. However, i think the reebok could have been just as good and apart from the location the biggest difference is money and americanisation of our sport. Music on goals, flying flags and fireworks just don't appeal to me, and the money means that there is a new type of fan rarely seen at Burnden.

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