With Jussi still in attack mode and the rest of the team dying on their collective arse, there has surely never been a clearer goalscoring opportunity than the one Anelka denied.

 

He'll probably get binned off to the Championship for failing to correctly apply the laws of the game.

I don't want to have a dig at the ref because I don't think he affected the result but.. For all those that have seen it on TV

 

a) Was the first penalty a penalty he seemed to get the ball from where I was. He got a toe on it, but you could understand the referee thinking he hadn't.

 

cool.gif Was the anelka penalty not offside in the first place. Yes

 

c) Was the third goal offside, It looked to me when it was passed around jussi that he was offside. No - he was behind the ball

 

d) Did any of the penalty claims warrant a penalty, i'm thinking of when Anelka got pulled down in the first half, and campo's dive looked like contact. No.

 

 

Pretty much what I thought happened, I thought Anelka had a good claim for one though. The third goal looked tight to me. I though the ref was poor and 'was be on arsenals side' (that coming from a united fan at work). But like I said to him it didn't affect the result. Arsenal's 1st was a bit of luck and their second was a good goal that we should have dealt with better, anelka should have at least tested the keeper with his shot in ET. What got me was the people ringing up on 606 saying the ref had a great game (they weren't all arsenal fans), when I thought the opposite. I just hope we can now pip either Liverpool or Arsenal to that champs league place (even if we have a better chance in the UEFA cup). Europe looks on the cards so lets look forwards to the last few weeks of the season.

Second time Chris Foy has given the oppo two penalties and sent a Bolton player off at the Reebok.

 

I can't believe Diaby got away with persistent fouling all the way through the game and never got booked, while TBH got booked for probably the only two fouls he made.

 

Suspension for TBH could be costly if Faye doesn't recover before the Spurs game. Also, Nolan must be edging up to 10 bookings now and that would be a two game ban. I can't remember any of his bookings from this season that were for a foul.

Second time Chris Foy has given the oppo two penalties and sent a Bolton player off at the Reebok.

And on both occasions he did nothing wrong in any of those decisions.

Second time Chris Foy has given the oppo two penalties and sent a Bolton player off at the Reebok.

 

I can't believe Diaby got away with persistent fouling all the way through the game and never got booked, while TBH got booked for probably the only two fouls he made.

 

Suspension for TBH could be costly if Faye doesn't recover before the Spurs game. Also, Nolan must be edging up to 10 bookings now and that would be a two game ban. I can't remember any of his bookings from this season that were for a foul.

 

 

 

correct me if I'm wrong but I thought if you got 10 yellows it was a three game ban, the additional game is for bad discipline. I might be completely wrong

Second time Chris Foy has given the oppo two penalties and sent a Bolton player off at the Reebok.

 

I can't believe Diaby got away with persistent fouling all the way through the game and never got booked, while TBH got booked for probably the only two fouls he made.

 

Suspension for TBH could be costly if Faye doesn't recover before the Spurs game. Also, Nolan must be edging up to 10 bookings now and that would be a two game ban. I can't remember any of his bookings from this season that were for a foul.

 

 

TBH had commited a couiple of tackles worse than the one he got the first booking for.

 

the red was inevitable.

 

do you get suspended for 2 yellows ?

Suspension for TBH could be costly if Faye doesn't recover before the Spurs game.

 

I'd have thought he'd be alright for the Spurs game (what sort of gay excuse is an abcess?), but we've been getting away with our ridiculously low centre back quota all season and it's bound to bite us on the arse sooner or later.

 

 

Nolan must be edging up to 10 bookings now and that would be a two game ban.

 

He's on eight. Did he get booked last night, though? I thought he picked up a characteristically stupid yellow after their third goal but I can't find any evidence of it this morning.

I'd have thought he'd be alright for the Spurs game (what sort of gay excuse is an abcess?), but we've been getting away with our ridiculously low centre back quota all season and it's bound to bite us on the arse sooner or later.

He's on eight. Did he get booked last night, though? I thought he picked up a characteristically stupid yellow after their third goal but I can't find any evidence of it this morning.

 

He did

He did

Not according to the FA website, or anywhere else I've looked.

 

You got a link?

Nolan did get booked last night.

Not according to the FA website, or anywhere else I've looked.

 

You got a link?

no but im 99% certain he got booked

I thought the referee probably got the big decisions right last night, but it was other petty things that really pissed me off. Some of his positioning was appalling, I think the ball hit him on 3 occasions in 90 minutes, one almost resulting in an Arse goal, and just other smaller decisions that never seemed to go our way. At the end I was fuming but after settled down a bit probably became a bit calmer, but I still stand by my thoughts that Foy had a poor game, as the players seem to feel as well.

 

As mentioned above though, it should not detract from a cracking game where both teams played there part.

Nolan got booked after he ran over to the linesman to protest after the Gooners third goal.

c) Was the third goal offside, It looked to me when it was passed around jussi that he was offside. No - he was behind the ball

 

He was offside as there was only one defending player involved (Jussi).

 

A player is in an offside position if:

he is nearer to his opponents' goal line than the second last opponent

 

Thus unless the pass was played backwards (which it was not) the player who received the pass and scored was offside.

He was offside as there was only one defending player involved (Jussi).

 

 

 

Thus unless the pass was played backwards (which it was not) the player who received the pass and scored was offside.

 

Wrong. The player who scored the goal was behind the player who passed the ball, and therefore behind the ball, at the time of the pass. He was not offside.

 

 

 

Just for the avoidance of doubt:

 

It is not an offence in itself to be in an offside position.

 

A player is in an offside position if:

• he is nearer to his opponents' goal line than both the ball and the second last opponent
  

A player is not in an offside position if:

• he is in his own half of the field of play
  
• he is level with the second last opponent
  
• he is level with the last two opponents
  

Commiting an Offside Offence

A player in an offside position is only penalised if, at the moment the ball touches or is played by one of his team, he is, in the opinion of the referee, involved in active play by:

• interfering with play
  
• interfering with an opponent
  
• gaining an advantage by being in that position
  

No Offence

There is no offside offence if a player receives the ball directly from:

• a goal kick
  
• a throw-in
  
• a corner kick
  

Edited February 16, 200719 yr by Gonk

He was offside as there was only one defending player involved (Jussi).

Thus unless the pass was played backwards (which it was not) the player who received the pass and scored was offside.

 

Ohhh Yatesy, schoolboy error my friend

 

You cannot be offside if YOU are BEHIND the player who makes the pass

 

Number of defenders is irrelevant

older posters may remember this "offside" goal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6tjuW3mWpk&NR

Edited February 16, 200719 yr by SatanGreavsie

older posters may remember this "offside" goal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6tjuW3mWpk&NR

I'm too young to remember that but i'd say that it was onside. I know that they didn't have to be 'active' in those days but the ball wasn't played forwards, it just hit him as he took the ball and then he carried on running with it. Kind of like a defender tackling someone and the keeper picking it up, not a back pass.

older posters may remember this "offside" goal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6tjuW3mWpk&NR

 

For a minute there,I thought this was going to be Gary Jones(?) stood "offside" by the corner flag against Wolves.