All new labour are two face tawts. Do has I say not as I do.

 

You only have to see/listen to what Brown & Co where spouting back in the 70's & 80s complete fcuking opposite to now.

 

I mean who'd have though a labour government would give the green light to building Nuclear Power staion back in the 80's.

 

Wasn't Hain monitored by MI5/MI6 cause they thought he was national threat at the time?

 

The biggest cock up by the tories was to appoint William Hague when they did, too young at the time, but I reckon he's the man for the job now imo.

Edited January 25, 200818 yr by Crew86

I just think for the work they do, and the hours they have to work (sometimes doubleshifts) the money they are on is poor. I believe some of them are on 11kish? They are a service we need.

 

Saying that, I could just be believing what the papers say about the way they are treated. (And I know there are other sectors that deserve a pay rise too). Just from recent experience, the nurses seem to do more work than the doctors!

I truly value what Nurses do.

 

Re Pay-they know what they are likely to earn before they enter the job. If they want a different payscale, there is nothing stopping them going to a different occupation.

BNP its the future

BNP its the future

 

Will they teach people how to use apostrophes?

Bliar and his cronies have created the country we live in today...

 

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I think there are comparisions between Blair and Thatcher:

 

The way they controlled their parties - no one fell out of line.

 

Jumping into bed with the USA- This stems from Maggie and Ron's 'special relationship'.

 

However, Maggie wouldn't have introduced the minimum wage. child tax credits, working family tax credits. All of which make a big difference to people who work very hard for very little reward.

 

Plus Gordon Brown has brought a lot of prosperity to middle class Britain. Overseeing a huge growth in economy resulting in booming property prices. (Have you seen all the conservatories in Harwood?)

 

They have been in government too long and made too many enemies now and big Dave will get his chance. I just hope my daughter doesn't have to share a text book with someone else, like I had to under the tories.

You see it's a hard one for me....

 

I'm right wing...not to the extreme just a nationlist...

 

And i hate alot of what this country now is...

 

but...

 

I work in Construction have done since i left school and now some 20 years later...hold a very good job in a large construction firm building social housing....

 

and there is no denying under this government the construction sector has boomed...

 

and the ammount of houses to be constructed in the future is huge...

 

so on this one i have no complaints....

 

as i don't think the tories would have invested as much in the regeneration of some of our most deprived areas and inner cities.

BNP its the future

 

 

You starting to go all left wing again, TSO?

 

 

I think there are comparisions between Blair and Thatcher:

 

The way they controlled their parties - no one fell out of line.

 

Jumping into bed with the USA- This stems from Maggie and Ron's 'special relationship'.

 

However, Maggie wouldn't have introduced the minimum wage. child tax credits, working family tax credits. All of which make a big difference to people who work very hard for very little reward.

 

Plus Gordon Brown has brought a lot of prosperity to middle class Britain. Overseeing a huge growth in economy resulting in booming property prices. (Have you seen all the conservatories in Harwood?)

 

They have been in government too long and made too many enemies now and big Dave will get his chance. I just hope my daughter doesn't have to share a text book with someone else, like I had to under the tories.

And dont forget to add 3.5 million out off work and 15%+ interest rates, if people are worried now just think what would happen if interest rates got any where near that and out of work to boot.

And one reason we are now going along the Nuclear power route is that Maggie shut all the ragging coal mines down and built gas powered stations instead, now we've not enough gas and dont get me started on what she did with the oil compenies anyone remenber Brit-oil, that when we all owned it. Another of Maggies gave aways

Fair do's Bobcat, I will probably vote labour for the rest of my days but it doesn't make me a tree hugging millitant.

 

I am pretty Nationalistic myself. I think it is a shorter journey from Labour to the BNP than Tory to the BNP.

 

I just feel as a lad from a working class background earning a relatively modest income Labour will 'fight my corner' more than some Eton nobjockey. (Although New Labour has it's fair share of them too granted).

And dont forget to add 3.5 million out off work and 15%+ interest rates, if people are worried now just think what would happen if interest rates got any where near that and out of work to boot.

And one reason we are now going along the Nuclear power route is that Maggie shut all the ragging coal mines down and built gas powered stations instead, now we've not enough gas and dont get me started on what she did with the oil compenies anyone remenber Brit-oil, that when we all owned it. Another of Maggies gave aways

true and then imported coal from Russia, at the same time as starting a "buy British" campaign/proaganda stunt. theres a lot wrong with this government, but god forbid we would ever go back to them days, no work, old people getting electricity cut off, negative equity and so on.

Fair do's Bobcat, I will probably vote labour for the rest of my days but it doesn't make me a tree hugging millitant.

 

I am pretty Nationalistic myself. I think it is a shorter journey from Labour to the BNP than Tory to the BNP.

 

I just feel as a lad from a working class background earning a relatively modest income Labour will 'fight my corner' more than some Eton nobjockey. (Although New Labour has it's fair share of them too granted).

 

The problem being that they'd fight your corner so long as you weren't fighting an asylum seeking disabled jobless lesbian single parent who's making 30K a year on benefits but still shoplifts and has just bought their council house under right-to-buy for ?19.99.

 

The Conservatives on the other hand may fight for the few decent, good people of this country, those of us who work 5 days a week and pay large amounts of tax, tax that is currently funding New Labour's parasite generation.

The problem being that they'd fight your corner so long as you weren't fighting an asylum seeking disabled jobless lesbian single parent who's making 30K a year on benefits but still shoplifts and has just bought their council house under right-to-buy for ?19.99.

 

The Conservatives on the other hand may fight for the few decent, good people of this country, those of us who work 5 days a week and pay large amounts of tax, tax that is currently funding New Labour's parasite generation.

thats all true and annoys the f*ck out of me, but, having said all that i would rather be working and earning enough to pay tax whatever they spend it on, than on the dole and not paying any, which, as someone else who works in construction, would be a good possibility under the tories if their past performances were repeated.

It all goes round in cycles...

 

at somepoint in the early 70's under labour weren't we on 4 day weeks, power cuts...with no bins emptied, mortuarys full to overflowing....

 

Tories got in...yuppies mid 80's..blah blah...loads of money...then crash

 

Labour get in...prosperity...loads of money...low unemployment...

 

now round the corner it's anticipated...crash...

 

it's all bollocks really.

The problem being that they'd fight your corner so long as you weren't fighting an asylum seeking disabled jobless lesbian single parent who's making 30K a year on benefits but still shoplifts and has just bought their council house under right-to-buy for ?19.99.

 

The Conservatives on the other hand may fight for the few decent, good people of this country, those of us who work 5 days a week and pay large amounts of tax, tax that is currently funding New Labour's parasite generation.

 

I know there are scumbags who bleed the welfare state, I despise them as much as the next true blue Tory.

 

Thing is, I am proud to live in a civilised country that provides a safety net and free healthcare. Isn't it part of our British sense of fair play?

It's no different to here or the US. Too long a term for either of them and they lose focus and fook things up. Time for a change and I'd be with Carlos this time around. Needs to be balanced up again.

 

I am still waiting for the ENP to emerge and I'll be back. Nowt wrong with a bit of right wing nationalism

I know there are scumbags who bleed the welfare state, I despise them as much as the next true blue Tory.

 

Thing is, I am proud to live in a civilised country that provides a safety net and free healthcare. Isn't it part of our British sense of fair play?

 

You aren't allowed to have anything British anymore, the PC do-gooder namby-pambies have decreed they may offend non-British people.

 

Although I see your point, it's all so 1970's. The safety net is only really there if you are a professional at playing the system, the NHS really is on it's arse and this is such a civilised society that all the Romanian and Bulgarian criminals have relocated here. Plus it's only a matter of time before Sharia law is introduced anyway...

You aren't allowed to have anything British anymore, the PC do-gooder namby-pambies have decreed they may offend non-British people.

 

Although I see your point, it's all so 1970's. The safety net is only really there if you are a professional at playing the system, the NHS really is on it's arse and this is such a civilised society that all the Romanian and Bulgarian criminals have relocated here. Plus it's only a matter of time before Sharia law is introduced anyway...

 

This is what happened in Slough on Thursday (note how much money was involved!!!!)

 

 

 

 

Revealed: How Romanian pickpocket gangs are building palaces back home with child slave labour

 

Fagin-style criminal gangs from Romania are making vast amounts of money from trafficking children into Britain to work as pickpockets and beggars, it is revealed today.

 

The money amassed by the gangs is being funnelled back to Romania, often to build lavish homes for the gang members, the Daily Mail has discovered.

 

Villages where once horses and carts were the only form of transport are being transformed into places with expensive cars and glitzy mansions.

 

One such place is Tandarei, 90 miles from the capital Bucharest. On a visit to Slough last year, a Daily Mail reporter found 100 members of an extended family, many under 18, who had arrived from the Romanian village.

 

The journey from Romania to Britain has become one of the most lucrative moves for those leaving Eastern Europe.

 

Many of those making the 1,500-mile trip are Romany gypsies who have embarked on a life of crime in the UK.

 

The revelation comes as police staged a dramatic series of dawn raids yesterday in a campaign to stamp out the trafficking of Romanian slave children smuggled into Britain.

 

Many of the youngsters watched in terror from bedroom windows before being carried away. Ten children were taken into care.

 

Hundreds have settled in Slough - just a ?3 bus journey to London Victoria Station.

 

By the end of May last year, 88 Romanian gypsy children, apparently without children, had turned up at the town's civic centre.

 

Yesterday, 24 suspected "controllers" were arrested on suspicion of human trafficking and running a "highly organised" theft business involving up to ?1billion a year. The youngsters ranged in age from less than one to 17.

 

Many such children are made to travel to central London every day and carry out crimes including pickpocketing, credit card cloning and distraction thefts targeting commuters and tourists.

 

Almost 400 officers were involved in the raids yesterday on rundown properties in Slough, Berkshire.

 

But detectives said the operation was only the start and predicted more raids to tackle the dramatic increase in street thefts and petty crime since Romania and Bulgaria joined the EU 12 months ago.

 

Officers wearing body armour and supported by dogs screamed "police, police, police" as they used sledgehammers to smash through doors of gang members.

 

"The objective was to disrupt and detect criminal offences in relation to organised crime networks in Romania, which represents itself in an upsurge in crime in London," said Commander Steve Allen, who led the operation.

 

"We have taken to safety children who may have been brought into the country to commit crime.

 

"The background starts a year ago with the addition of Romania and Bulgaria into the EU, when it became clear there was quite a dramatic increase in theft from people around central London.

 

"It became clear we weren't talking about low-level crime, but one end of a highly organised network which involved, most seriously, the trafficking of children.

 

"This operation is about protecting vulnerable people, about providing reassurance to all members of the community and bringing to justice the members of serious organised crime."

 

Commander Allen said the number of Romanian criminals known to them in central London rose from 12 in 2006 to 214 last year after the expansion of the EU.

 

He estimated that each active Romanian criminal makes about ?100,000 a year, most of which is channelled back to his home country. The cash is used to fund luxury cars and homes.

 

The Romanian crimewave led to 700 more thefts in central London in 2007 than the previous year, he added.

 

At one address in Slough, police found 12 adults and eight children crammed into a small three-bedroom house.

 

Commander Allen believes there is more than one gang involved, and many more trafficked children still to be found.

 

He said: "The reason we targeted Slough is because that's where the intelligence this time has led us. We have other intelligence available to us that would take us into other parts of London."

 

Last night, the freed children were being cared for by Slough Borough Council. Officials said attempts would be made to reunite them with family either in the UK or in Romania.

 

The adults arrested are also accused of breaches of immigration rules, deception, fraud and theft. Many were understood to be Romany gypsies.

 

Large sums of cash and credit cards were also seized.

 

One of the offences associated with the gangs are so-called deception crimes. A popular trick involves a gang member asking for directions with a London Underground map while another steals a handbag or a mobile phone.

 

The leader of Westminster City Council, Sir Simon Milton, praised the arrests and said Eastern European gangs were behind an "unprecedented surge" in pickpocketing in Westminster.

 

He added: "The Government has been talking tough on crime, but it is about time it started following its words with actions and started forcibly removing those foreign nationals involved in criminal behaviour.

 

"We know from intelligence that many of the individuals arrested by police today have been convicted previously, which is simply unacceptable and cannot be allowed to continue unchecked."

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/arti...in_page_id=1770

And dont forget to add 3.5 million out off work and 15%+ interest rates, if people are worried now just think what would happen if interest rates got any where near that and out of work to boot.

And one reason we are now going along the Nuclear power route is that Maggie shut all the ragging coal mines down and built gas powered stations instead, now we've not enough gas and dont get me started on what she did with the oil compenies anyone remenber Brit-oil, that when we all owned it. Another of Maggies gave aways

 

3.5 million on the dole? How many did they inherit? How many were there when the reds took over? How many do we have now and how many are on bad-back allowance?

 

15% interest rates? For about 20 minutes. The low rates we have had since the late 90's were down to the Tories, not Labour.

 

Gas? Its running out in the North Sea, can't blame maggie for that.

 

And don't talk shite about the coal. Unproductive, uneconomical, run by a publically funded jobs for the boys cartel.

we should of listened

I'm going down to B&Q today to buy a few bags of sand.

Then I'm going to bury my head in it!

 

Had a good old discussion with two older couples yesterday at theairport - all about immigration, etc.

Both seemed well-to-do (very involved with charitable causes) - but both with right wing(ish) views.

Problem is, people only voice their concerns quietly, whilst looking over their shoulders - frightened that they'll be pigeon-holed in the "skinhead Nazi" mold.

 

Anyway, I'm going to VOTE PEDRO

Edited January 26, 200818 yr by Smiley

let the immigrants in, and for every 10, ship out 20 scrotes