JimmyRiddle Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 (edited) any wimmin wearing the veil go througha special women only security gate in a separate room away from the eyes of men Why does the Qu'ran say thats acceptable??? Edited July 4, 2008 by JimmyRiddle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burndens Bogs Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 (edited) why what the fcuk has it got to do with you two faced bastards abound on this thread (imo) 'who the fcuk are they to tell us what to do' then 'they shouldn't wear this n that' well look, tis time to open your eyes they can wear whatsoever they like (in normal day to day life) and have as much right to do so as anybody else to be honest it should be actively encouraged, nay mandatory, for all gingers to cover up It beggars belief,it really does- i find myself losing hope for this country. Edited July 5, 2008 by Burndens Bogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globaldiver Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 why what the fcuk has it got to do with you two faced bastards abound on this thread (imo) 'who the fcuk are they to tell us what to do' then 'they shouldn't wear this n that' well look, tis time to open your eyes they can wear whatsoever they like (in normal day to day life) and have as much right to do so as anybody else 100 per cent agree, but is our liberalness our weakness. Can our idealism, our 60s idealism, perhaps, be compatible with life's reality? Will love out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHAT Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 I do hope it shat in there Don't bring me into it!I'll be here all night once you get me going on this subject!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 Why does the Qu'ran say thats acceptable??? because they only cover their heads in the view of men they are not related to. Arabic department stores have a wimmin only floor where they take the robes off and try on nice clothes make up etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted July 5, 2008 Members Share Posted July 5, 2008 Could a western girl walk down the main street of Kabul, Teheran or Baghdad in a boob tube and mini skirt? For about a second and a half before execution - maybe. Special airport security and shopping arrangements for them? Fook off. At least they're easy to spot. Peculiar how things go off the rails. In Casino and Franks liberal utopia, it is OK for outsiders to dress and behave in a way that many find offensive/provocative and yet an Englishman can be banned from attending our national sport for uttering some expletive at an opposition supporter miles away from a football stadium. Orwellian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyRiddle Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 Could a western girl walk down the main street of Kabul, Teheran or Baghdad in a boob tube and mini skirt? For about a second and a half before execution - maybe. Special airport security and shopping arrangements for them? Fook off. At least they're easy to spot. Peculiar how things go off the rails. In Casino and Franks liberal utopia, it is OK for outsiders to dress and behave in a way that many find offensive/provocative and yet an Englishman can be banned from attending our national sport for uttering some expletive at an opposition supporter miles away from a football stadium. Orwellian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 (edited) Could a western girl walk down the main street of Kabul, Teheran or Baghdad in a boob tube and mini skirt? For about a second and a half before execution - maybe. Special airport security and shopping arrangements for them? Fook off. At least they're easy to spot. Peculiar how things go off the rails. In Casino and Franks liberal utopia, it is OK for outsiders to dress and behave in a way that many find offensive/provocative and yet an Englishman can be banned from attending our national sport for uttering some expletive at an opposition supporter miles away from a football stadium. Orwellian. No and that whats make us a better nation than those backwards nations, treat others as you would want to be treated yourself. um in ARABIC department stores ie in Dubai, Saudi etc etc. and as for airport security as it's INTERNATIONAL air travel i see no isssue with provision of these facilities. i don't see a problem with people in burkahs same as i have no problem with sikhs in turbans and Jews with the curly sids and hat combos, hardly erroding peoples civil liberties or our british way of life? Edited July 5, 2008 by frank_spencer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no balls Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 how so? Because we were all made beautiful in our own way, albeit some more than others. To not show people yourself is quite sad and lazy imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no balls Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 because they only cover their heads in the view of men they are not related to. Arabic department stores have a wimmin only floor where they take the robes off and try on nice clothes make up etc But Frank, what's the f?cking point if they go out in public in a big black piece of cloth and nowt else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted July 5, 2008 Members Share Posted July 5, 2008 i don't see a problem with people in burkahs same as i have no problem with sikhs in turbans and Jews with the curly sids and hat combos, hardly erroding peoples civil liberties or our british way of life? I suppose if that coont Richard Reid can hide a bomb in the heel of his shoe then a Jew or Sikh could, possibly, hide one in their hair or headgear. The difference is, however, that no Jew or Sikh to my knowledge is likely to become a suicide bomber. Generally, both peace loving people - violent only in self defence. Further, hiding ones identity with curly sideburns (and, yes, I do think that particular sect look right tw@ts) or a turban isn't possible in my opinion. The repulsive looking burkha can be used to hide an identity; explosives belt or an overgrown mackerel kebab. If a bloke can be banned from football stadia for the most minor infraction then this affront to English traditions should be banned forthwith. Far more sinister than yer average bloke who likes a few pints and a bit of a ruck to keep warm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffs Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 Part of my athiest views is the freedom to smoke in a controlled public environment, and my views are valid; it says so in the various 'rules' on freedom, it can be interpreted one way or another but hey. Now then, nobody makes provision for it anymore; I am a social outcast, because it MIGHT cause harm to others. This lot MIGHT be up to no good, but we're bending over for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted July 5, 2008 Moderators Share Posted July 5, 2008 It beggars belief,it really does- i find myself losing hope for this country. this country fought wars for folks freedom you know, this country you claim to be proud of and infer folk like me are fcuking it up seems im all for freedom and youre just for telling folk who aren't like your vision of englishness that they need to change sounds backward and third world to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted July 5, 2008 Moderators Share Posted July 5, 2008 (edited) I suppose if that coont Richard Reid can hide a bomb in the heel of his shoe then a Jew or Sikh could, possibly, hide one in their hair or headgear. The difference is, however, that no Jew or Sikh to my knowledge is likely to become a suicide bomber. Generally, both peace loving people - violent only in self defence. Further, hiding ones identity with curly sideburns (and, yes, I do think that particular sect look right tw@ts) or a turban isn't possible in my opinion. The repulsive looking burkha can be used to hide an identity; explosives belt or an overgrown mackerel kebab. If a bloke can be banned from football stadia for the most minor infraction then this affront to English traditions should be banned forthwith. Far more sinister than yer average bloke who likes a few pints and a bit of a ruck to keep warm. while i don't consider the actions of the w?nkers who blew up the twin towers to be those of folk acting in self defence, pound to a penny they'll think thats what they were doing (though therell also be a few who can't wait to go shag loads of birds) in just the same way plenty arabs will see plenty jews as murdering scum Edited July 5, 2008 by Casino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no balls Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 this country fought wars for folks freedom you know, this country you claim to be proud of and infer folk like me are fcuking it up seems im all for freedom and youre just for telling folk who aren't like your vision of englishness that they need to change sounds backward and third world to me It seems f?cked up to me though that we fight for freedom so they can "they" oppress the weaker sex in a free, democratic country. So called, honour killings & also forced marriages happen in the UK and in other countries to women who are British citizens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burndens Bogs Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 this country fought wars for folks freedom you know, this country you claim to be proud of and infer folk like me are fcuking it up seems im all for freedom and youre just for telling folk who aren't like your vision of englishness that they need to change sounds backward and third world to me Yeh, British folk. A bit like Sharia law then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted July 5, 2008 Moderators Share Posted July 5, 2008 It seems f?cked up to me though that we fight for freedom so they can "they" oppress the weaker sex in a free, democratic country.So called, honour killings & also forced marriages happen in the UK and in other countries to women who are British citizens. back to your assumption that muslim wearing the burkha are being forced to do it spoken with plenty muslim women about the subject? and what the bollocks have honour killings and forced marriages got to do with it? i thowt we were talking about clothes???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted July 5, 2008 Moderators Share Posted July 5, 2008 Yeh, British folk. A bit like Sharia law then you'll need to do better bogsy thats piss poor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no balls Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 back to your assumption that muslim wearing the burkha are being forced to do it spoken with plenty muslim women about the subject? and what the bollocks have honour killings and forced marriages got to do with it? i thowt we were talking about clothes???????? I didn't make that assumption, re read my posts before getting on your high horse, I merely enquired as to "is it?". If it isn't then I find it very strange a woman would not want to show the smile and eyes God/Allah gifted them. I also find it disrespectful to the rest of society. An instance being, in a supermarket, the person on the till looks up, smiles and says hello, What does the person in the Burkha do? Part of life is social interaction, so are these women happy not having any. I find that hard to understand. Unless of course they'd sooner not socialise with "infidels" i.e. other members of the society they have chosen to live in. I also pointed out that you talk of us giving folk freedom to do as they wish, and so I merely pointed out our giving folk freedom so they can oppress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted July 5, 2008 Moderators Share Posted July 5, 2008 fwiw, i don't see why they would want to do it i'm pretty strong in my view that none of them should be forced to either (unless they chose to enter into a marriage with a bloke who required em to do it from the off) ie if they chose to get into that marriage, they live with it for the period of the marriage what i do have a problem with, is us whiteys deciding what is and isn't acceptable for (honour me for the sake of my point, cos the vast majority are) a law abiding section of society, just because its 'our country' cos it aint its just a lump of rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burndens Bogs Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 you'll need to do better bogsy thats piss poor No Cas,to infer that our soldiers fought for multiculturalism in this country is piss poor. Multiculturalism has been (and will increasingly be) a disaster for Britain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no balls Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 what i do have a problem with, is us whiteys deciding what is and isn't acceptable for (honour me for the sake of my point, cos the vast majority are) a law abiding section of society, just because its 'our country' I understand your point, on acceptable behaviour, each to their own to a certain extent, but that isn't my arguement though. Mine is the lack of respect these women show for themselves if forced to or their lack of respect for the rest of society by wearing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globaldiver Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 No Cas,to infer that our soldiers fought for multiculturalism in this country is piss poor. Multiculturalism has been (and will increasingly be) a disaster for Britain Apart from curry houses, chinkys etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 I understand your point, on acceptable behaviour, each to their own to a certain extent, but that isn't my arguement though. Mine is the lack of respect these women show for themselves if forced to or their lack of respect for the rest of society by wearing it. Perhaps their religious views mean that they are respecting themselves by doing what they believe Allah wants them to do. I'll be honest i've never known any muslim girl who wears the full Burkah, plenty with the head scarf, but i think they numbers 'forced' into it by their other half must be minutely small Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHAT Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 I had one of the scruffy fcukers nearly run into the side of my car because she had a stupid black bag over her head.Specs on and trying to see out of a two inch wide slit cut into it.There must be a law against driving around with a bag on your head surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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