Smiley Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 I voted NO. Some minor millionaire - then fair do's. Some billionaire oil magnet who wants us as a play-thing - no thanks.
obbzi Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 Up until yesterday I would have said no, don't sell, but after seeing Citeh buy Robinho (which has made me hate the kunts even more!) then maybe we might have to just in order to keep up with the other teams. But being realistic we will never ever get a rich Arab buyingus will we
Tyler Durden Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 This whole "keep up" thing... with or without millions/billions we would never keep up with Man U, Chelsea and now City. They have huge fanbases - that's why they're attractive to buyers. We don't. Even if we did get a billionaire - you think Robinho would come and play infront of 20k and live in Lostock? West Ham got taken over by a multi-hundred-millionaire and look what happened there. Football is changing, just like Britain in general - the haves are having more, the have-nots are scraping less. I'm happy to support a club with soul rather than sale.
Notlob Downunder Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 (edited) I agree I prefer the home town club with players from the area and pies from the local shop ie the Burnden days. But the premier league is now a global brand and being nostalgic and having the family club values will not get us anywhere in the premier league. If we want to progress foriegn investment is the only way forward. Don't forget we have had one of the richest english family based companies on the board for years and have we ever seen them seriously dip their hands in their pockets. I know their money is peanuts in todays game but being on the board is just a publicity stunt for these guys and a free game and feed every week. Davis is pissing into the wind with the money he has to spend, Gartside is just as dubious as any other Pl chairman and Megson is a reflection of both Davis, Gartside and our standing in the PL. Edited September 2, 2008 by Notlob Downunder
Spider Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 The arabs have been eyeing the prem with envy for years It's a huge product out in the UAE and despite what we might be hoping their interest will take decades to wane It's a tricky one for me. On one hand I see BWFC ploughing on in a frugal sense, battling to stay up and keeping heads above water in front of 20k On the other hand, I see full stadia, world class players in the shirt and big shiny cups. But there's the rub - world class players and trophies are finite. 7/8 arabs fighting over 4 cups doesn't work Unless a European Super League/World league happens. And given the bottomless pit of cash, don't be surprised. But, hypothetically, its a yes through gritted teeth from me. The prem as we know it may just have started its decomposition last night
obbzi Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 This whole "keep up" thing... with or without millions/billions we would never keep up with Man U, Chelsea and now City. They have huge fanbases - that's why they're attractive to buyers. We don't. Even if we did get a billionaire - you think Robinho would come and play infront of 20k and live in Lostock? the keep up I was referring to was just keeping up with our rivals, ie Hull, Wigan, Stoke etc, teams who will never win the title but who will battle to stay in the Premier league. Stoke signed a few players (albeit rubbish to average players!) but at least they splashed some cash. Hull were rumoured to have bid ?7 mill for Frazer Campbell! Catch 22 situation, I don't want us to go out and blow what little money we have on average players who are not going to improve the team or squad but Megson was going on about how he still had a substantial wedge to sign 2 very good players. And about attracting world class players we have a had some fantastic players, Djorkaeff, Okocha so it is possible to attract them!
Tyler Durden Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 It's the whole "progression" thing that gets me. what do people want? To be challenging the top 4? That will never happen, you're in for a long and disapointing time if that's what you want for BWFC. Comfortable Premiership team, challenging for Carling/FA Cup and the odd Euro Jolly? Then yes, I think that's where we're heading - but it will take time for a manager to build that foundation - and it doesn't help when fans slag everything about the club off at every turn.
HomerJay Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 i bet you could guess who would vote yes before they did! ie all the cnuts who make fill this board with complete and under shite!
Spider Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 i bet you could guess who would vote yes before they did! ie all the cnuts who make fill this board with complete and under shite! Harsh - don't you want the best for the club/town?
Smiley Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 I would doubt 100% that Robinho could name the City manager, any players, the stadium name and knows anything about their history. Which is sad. However, I do believe he knows that they've offered him ?92K per week in wages and a monster signing on fee. That will be sure. Makes me wonder if we'd be better off out of this division now. Its all got a bit pathetic to be honest. And let's be 100% honest here, the Arabs would much sooner have bought United or Liverpool. NOT Man City.
Tyler Durden Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 (albeit rubbish to average players!) but at least they splashed some cash. So... you want us to buy rubbish to average just to splash cash? Oi Sammy Lee, come back over 'ere lad. Hull were rumoured to have bid ?7 mill for Frazer Campbell! Did they sign him?... No.... And we paid ?8.5m for Elmander, ?5m for Muamba, ?5m for Cahill, ?3.5m for Taylor, ?3m for Steinsson and have signed Riga and Smolarek for nothing...... Megson was going on about how he still had a substantial wedge to sign 2 very good players. And we couldnt get the ones he wanted, so he saved the money instead of panicking. In January, we have money to spend where our rivals who have panicked won't - like last season. And about attracting world class players we have a had some fantastic players, Djorkaeff, Okocha so it is possible to attract them! We attracted them at the end of their careers when no-one else wanted them. We've moved on from patching and fixing a team together and are BUILDING a side that can grow - younger, hungrier and better. It will take time, Rome wasn't built in a single transfer window!
HomerJay Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 Harsh - don't you want the best for the club/town? absolutley, and the best is not certainly not being some foreigners play toy.
Smiley Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 the keep up I was referring to was just keeping up with our rivals, ie Hull, Wigan, Stoke etc, teams who will never win the title but who will battle to stay in the Premier league. Stoke signed a few players (albeit rubbish to average players!) but at least they splashed some cash. Hull were rumoured to have bid ?7 mill for Frazer Campbell! Can't agree on splashing cash for the sake of it. And Hull were being dragged into those figures by United's demands - nothing to do with the players actual value. I really don't think the lad should be commanding that kind of transfer fee - we got Anelka for just ?1m more FFS. Our club spent quite a bit of money last January and has put a most of our eggs in Elmander's basket..... we aren't going to win the league and we aren't going to be challenging for Europe or Cups. Let's just forget that and focus on a miracle top 12 finish.
obbzi Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 So... you want us to buy rubbish to average just to splash cash? Oi Sammy Lee, come back over 'ere lad. Did they sign him?... No.... And we paid ?8.5m for Elmander, ?5m for Muamba, ?5m for Cahill, ?3.5m for Taylor, ?3m for Steinsson and have signed Riga and Smolarek for nothing...... And we couldnt get the ones he wanted, so he saved the money instead of panicking. In January, we have money to spend where our rivals who have panicked won't - like last season. We attracted them at the end of their careers when no-one else wanted them. We've moved on from patching and fixing a team together and are BUILDING a side that can grow - younger, hungrier and better. It will take time, Rome wasn't built in a single transfer window! No I'm not saying sign average players, I even posted that! I just think with teh current players missing from the team Cahill, Elmander, Taylor, O'Brien we could have done with some more depth just some loan signings. If we get any more injuries I think we will be in for a very hard time!
Ani Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 it is like saying would you like to sister to marry real good decent down to earth bloke who treats her well or some jumped up rich ragging prick who treats her like shit and fucks about behind her back and will leave her when something better comes along. the sad thing that yesterday just hammers home is that football is now fcuk all to do with supporters.
obbzi Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 the sad thing that yesterday just hammers home is that football is now fcuk all to do with supporters. That is a very good point and a lot of people at work today have said they are no longer renewing their season tickets at their club (Man U) because they have had enough.
gregbwfc Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 Voted no. Reckon if things carry on like this, the PL will be a closed shop/franchise type affair in a few years,once the "right" 16/18 clubs are in place. Can't see us being one of the right clubs.Sadly.
bolty58 Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 i bet you could guess who would vote yes before they did!ie all the cnuts who make fill this board with complete and under shite! Not sure that's 100% right but does have a lot of merit. I suspect the majority who voted no are the hard core who would still be there if we plummeted to the 4th division again. BWFC til they die. I suspect that the majority who voted yes are younger 'stars in their eyes' types who have been seduced by the glitz and glamour of the whole Premier League hype and believe that we could be like the top four. Wouldn't bother with us if we weren't in the Premier League. Before any fooker goes off like a two bob watch, I said 'majority' (i.e. not all of them).
Boothy Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 F?ck the league, I just wanna be in the UEFA cup again. Never had so much fun!
Guest The Special One Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 I'll wait til I see citehs season ticket prices next season before i decide, not that I have one like
Carlos Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 Abu Dhabi United admitted they wanted City to play Premier League games over there!!! They're just another franchise. I can't think of owt worse than being surrounded by gloryhunters myself, I'd rather go back to Division 4.
Smiley Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 Vote NO! Sit tight and wait til "Our Amir" is a multi-millionaire. He'll see us reet!
Boothy Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 Vote NO! Sit tight and wait til "Our Amir" is a multi-millionaire. He'll see us reet! He used to parade in a Munich top. His ties with BWFC are purely commercial.
HomerJay Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 He used to parade in a Munich top. His ties with BWFC are purely commercial. huh, is bwfc a better commercial train than manure?
Boothy Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 Guess not. But United didn't turn round and show him off after the Olympics.
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