adambwfc Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 That is a very good point and a lot of people at work today have said they are no longer renewing their season tickets at their club (Man U) because they have had enough. Yeah they're all off to the massives! Also did you prechance see the queue forming outside on ssn? Just the most obvious gloryhunters ever.
trotter58 Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 Depends who you sell the club too. Leicester supporters were delighted when Mandaric took over. Liverpool supporters thought that they'd struck it rich when the club was sold to the Americans. The problem with some of these investors is that they have no real love of the club they're investing in, or even the game itself, it's just a bit of an ego trip for them. City's new owner was on SSN this morning talking about how he wants to win the Premier League next season and finish in the top four this season which seems to indicate that he doesn't have any real understanding of how much work they need to do to get anywhere near those goals. They can't all finish in the top four and i think it's only a matter of time before these owners get together and decide that they want to eliminate the element of risk by ensuring that they all win, that's how the Champions League came about.
Take Hunt Off Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 spot on .............some guy called Cook (Massives chief exec) has already been spouting about a 14 team Prem with no relegation This is the sort of corporate thought that shoulsd be crushed at birth .........these people don't give a flying fcuk about the game of footy as we know it . Vote No.
Big E Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 they should let that form and then let the rest of us get on with football
Carlos Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 The wage cap is coming, United will be calling for it ASAP.
MickyD Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 no no no no !!!! I like how our club is run. I like Davies, I like Gartside and I like Megson. I dislike conglomerates and rich businesses formed in illegal or dubious ways. I dislike big chain stores such as Homebase and Tescos. I like the local 'Iron Mongers'** and the Corner shop family run Grocers. I love Bolton Wanderers. I hate Man United Great lyric. What's the tune?
Arnold Jackson Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 1. I have said before I hate these rich pr*cks who have stolen our game and turned it into their expensive hobby. 2. If I were a Man City fan today I would be as happy as a pig in sh*t ... conversely today I'm miserable! 3. The conflict between statements 1 and 2 above is why this all happens. We [as fans] all want our club to be the best and if someone comes along and offers to use our club as their expensive plaything... we let them 'rape' us
MickyD Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 he doesn't have any real understanding of how much work they need to do to get anywhere near those goals. Didn't take Blackburn long between Jack splashing his cash and them winning the Premier League. That said, I don't think they had to wait for a transfer window to re-open before they could buy the next player.
Nowack Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 Vote NO! Sit tight and wait til "Our Amir" is a multi-millionaire. He'll see us reet! He will never be as rich as Eddie Davis.
trotter58 Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 Didn't take Blackburn long between Jack splashing his cash and them winning the Premier League. That said, I don't think they had to wait for a transfer window to re-open before they could buy the next player. Much more difficult to do it now than it was back then.
Tombwfc Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 Agreed, i'm not arsed how much the Arab has. United and Chelsea have more than enough cash to compete with them, and they've both got better squads to start with.
SatanGreavsie Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 Voted no. Reckon if things carry on like this, the PL will be a closed shop/franchise type affair in a few years,once the "right" 16/18 clubs are in place. Can't see us being one of the right clubs.Sadly. Indeed. Mark my words, they will go for this, though get round it by having not entirely made up of closed shop members - there will also be places available on a geographical basis. thus it will be 18 teams in total, made up of: 14 teams permanently in the PL in key geographical areas: Liverpool, Everton, City, United as the permanent NW representatives. Newcastle and Sunderland as permanent NE. Arsenal, Spurs, Chelsea, West Ham, QPR as permanent London. Brum, Villa as permanent Midlands. Leeds as permanent Yorkshire. 4 "extra" teams: 1 western/south coast area team (ie from Cardiff, Swansea, Bristol, Pompey, Soton) 1 extra Midlands team (ie from Wolves, WBA, Forest, Leics, Derby) 1 extra from either London or NW (eg could be us or Charlton) 1 extra Yorkshire team (presumably one of the Sheffields). If one of the non permanent teams finishes in the bottom 4 they get replaced by the best from that area in the Championship. It's going to happen!
Traf Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 Interesting logic Satan, and i agree with much of it, but QPR will never get in as a permanent member, until they build a new ground. The "new" PL will insist on grounds of minimum capacities of 35-40,000 IMO.
Sweep Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 4 "extra" teams:1 western/south coast area team (ie from Cardiff, Swansea, Bristol, Pompey, Soton) 1 extra Midlands team (ie from Wolves, WBA, Forest, Leics, Derby) 1 extra from either London or NW (eg could be us or Charlton) 1 extra Yorkshire team (presumably one of the Sheffields). At this point, both Sheffiled teams would have yielded to pressure, and will have merged to form Sheffiled City (or something equally daft)
Traf Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 At this point, both Sheffiled teams would have yielded to pressure, and will have merged to form Sheffiled City (or something equally daft) You've almost stumbled upon the truth. They'll be known as the Steel City Sabres.
no balls Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 Didn't take Blackburn long between Jack splashing his cash and them winning the Premier League. That said, I don't think they had to wait for a transfer window to re-open before they could buy the next player. Back then though, their most expensive player lived in a 4 bed detached on a Barratt estate. The football world has changed (and not for the better.)
BWFC = Priceless Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 You'd have to! Davies has been positive in the last 8 months in giving megson a decent kitty however for us to finish in the top 10 now we need someone who could come in and just throw money into the club. Would be difficult in getting the players to join us however it would be ?10million players not ?30million pounds. Something that has gone on at villa would do nicely for me!
Taffy White Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 "1 western/south coast area team (ie from Cardiff, Swansea, Bristol, Pompey, Soton)" I doubt very much that a space at the trough would be kept open for the welsh clubs
globaldiver Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 Indeed.Mark my words, they will go for this, though get round it by having not entirely made up of closed shop members - there will also be places available on a geographical basis. thus it will be 18 teams in total, made up of: 14 teams permanently in the PL in key geographical areas: Liverpool, Everton, City, United as the permanent NW representatives. Newcastle and Sunderland as permanent NE. Arsenal, Spurs, Chelsea, West Ham, QPR as permanent London. Brum, Villa as permanent Midlands. Leeds as permanent Yorkshire. 4 "extra" teams: 1 western/south coast area team (ie from Cardiff, Swansea, Bristol, Pompey, Soton) 1 extra Midlands team (ie from Wolves, WBA, Forest, Leics, Derby) 1 extra from either London or NW (eg could be us or Charlton) 1 extra Yorkshire team (presumably one of the Sheffields). If one of the non permanent teams finishes in the bottom 4 they get replaced by the best from that area in the Championship. It's going to happen! must be room for one of the bristols?
SatanGreavsie Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 "1 western/south coast area team (ie from Cardiff, Swansea, Bristol, Pompey, Soton)" I doubt very much that a space at the trough would be kept open for the welsh clubs You reckon, even with their catchment area?
Sweep Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 must be room for one of the bristols? They also would be forced top merge and be called Bristol Buccaneers or something. Swansea and Cardiff would also merge to form the Force-Cymru. Soccer Franchising, it's the future - RL is leading the way, and Soccer will follow the same league footprint. On a more serious note, as and when the big boys do want to "close the shop" so as to have no relegation, I wonder if it would involve bringing down Celtic and Rangers, in order to generate maximum income. One of thereasons this doesn't happen at the minute is because it may well affect the standing of each indiviual FA and their national team. The question is, would these owners give two sh?ts about the Scotland and England teams?
Zico Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 At this point, both Sheffiled teams would have yielded to pressure, and will have merged to form Sheffiled City (or something equally daft) maybe but no one from Sheffield, i.e. current Wed or Utd fans, would go watching them not a chance
Sweep Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 maybe but no one from Sheffield, i.e. current Wed or Utd fans, would go watching them not a chance I agree, and I was of course making it as a tongue in cheek statement, but it is the sort of daft thing I could see some foreign owners suggesting. If the fans don't like it, then fc?k them, we'll move the franchise to Kent...............
Tombwfc Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 Has the fact that two managers in two days appear to have been forced out by billionaire owners meddling and trying to/actually selling their players behind their backs, caused anyone to reconsider their vote? God bless Gartside.
trotter58 Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 Has the fact that two managers in two days appear to have been forced out by billionaire owners meddling and trying to/actually selling their players behind their backs, caused anyone to reconsider their vote? God bless Gartside. City are next. Their new owner displays all the characteristics of a back seat driver.
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